Gareth Potts vs SVB.. who wins?

Celtic said:
That is such a retarded statement. Sorry but I am not sugar coating it for you, it is dumb as hell.

In 2013 Ronnie O'Sullivan won the World Snooker Championships and he won £250,000. That is $418,150 US.

In 2013 SVB won $153,400 in ALL of his tournament winnings combined.

Ronnie won more then twice as much in a single event then SVB has EVER won in an entire year.

If SVB had ANY chance of being competitive on the professional snooker tour he would do it. There is more money in that game then he can ever dream of winning in pool.

SVB cannot compete on the professional snooker circuit no matter what he does, most of us know this to be true, he knows this to be true, but a few oblivious people on AZB keep trying to state that SVB could become world class in snooker if only he practiced the game. BS, no freaking chance, he can NEVER become world class at snooker at this point, he knows this and that is why he is not bothering to try. There is MILLIONS of dollars there waiting for him if he could.
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It's more than just retarded it's laced with bigotry just like all of these guys that post this crap on here they post it because it is not an American game or it is not an American player otherwise it would be hard to fathom how they could believe such utter nonsense.
 
Just how many 12' snooker tables do you think are in the US? I've seen one. Its at Mr. Q's in Atlanta. They have 40-ish pool tables and one snooker table. Chattanooga had one 10' snooker table but the hall closed. Not exactly the atmosphere to foster snooker competition in the states. In fact, most people couldn't care less about pool, and it's worse for snooker. So, you're correct that there will probably never be a snooker champ from the states. But the point you're missing is that very few people give a damn about it. If it wasn't for gambling on snooker, the payouts would look like pool payouts in the US.

Don't get me wrong, snooker is very interesting to me. I wish it's popularity would skyrocket worldwide. It would be a good thing for pool. I also believe that Ronnie O is one of the greatest cue-ists to walk the planet if not the greatest. He's a living legend. I just will never understand the animosity toward Shane. Oh well, it's lonely at the top. :wink:
 
who the f@#$ is Garfield Potts? Seriously, nobody here in the states gives a rats ass about some English cricket player that couldn't hold my jock strap, much less SVB's. I'll spot him the last 5 in the pawn world.
 
Who cares who would win.
They are at the top of their respective fields and have mastered different skill sets and style of play　because that's what they grew up playing. If they had grown up playing each other's game, they would probably be the best at that, too, with their talent and work ethic.
 
victorl said:
Who cares who would win.
They are at the top of their respective fields and have mastered different skill sets and style of play　because that's what they grew up playing. If they had grown up playing each other's game, they would probably be the best at that, too, with their talent and work ethic.
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Yeah, except that Potts did "not" grow up playing Chinese 8-ball.

It is a relatively new game and TBPH the fact it uses regulation size "pool" balls, the fact it is played on a 9 foot table, and the fact that the game uses "standard (read American) style 8-ball rules favors SVB, not Potts.

What Potts gets is the tight snooker cut pockets, which in effect demand more accuracy.

If Potts is better at Chinese 8-ball (and it would seem almost everyone on here admit to that including the SVB fans) then one must ask "why?".

Is it because he is a better potter then SVB and the tight snooker cut pockets simply show this?

Is it because Potts plays better 8-ball patterns then SVB and thus has fewer tough shots?

Is it because Potts has better overall cue ball control then SVB and thus manages the racks better?

I think most here would agree, SVB "should" have a huge breaking advantage given the regulation pool ball size on these 9-foot tables.

Is it really simply a matter of taking a game that SVB is supposedly "the" master of, using regulation sized pool balls that SVB is used to, using a 9-foot table that SVB is used to, playing a game that SVB is normally great at, and doing nothing more then making the pockets far more demanding in pocketing the balls, and suddenly SVB can no longer be considered the best?

Where is the weakness that suddenly makes SVB such a dog in a game that has so many things that SHOULD favor him. This game is more akin to American pool then it is to the Blackball pool that Potts came from. It has American rules, American balls, is on an American sized 9-foot, and the ONLY thing different is the pockets are tight and demand far more accurate shot making.

Demand more accurate shot making and suddenly SVB cannot win? Is thjat seriously all it took? If that is the case is this guy really the best overall player out there? Being able to pocket the balls and play the shape to make pocketing those balls as easy as possible IS 99% of the game, and it seems we are all here admitting that SVB cannot beat Potts in a game that demands just that...
 
Celtic said:
That is such a retarded statement. Sorry but I am not sugar coating it for you, it is dumb as hell.

In 2013 Ronnie O'Sullivan won the World Snooker Championships and he won £250,000. That is $418,150 US.

In 2013 SVB won $153,400 in ALL of his tournament winnings combined.

Ronnie won more then twice as much in a single event then SVB has EVER won in an entire year.

If SVB had ANY chance of being competitive on the professional snooker tour he would do it. There is more money in that game then he can ever dream of winning in pool.

SVB cannot compete on the professional snooker circuit no matter what he does, most of us know this to be true, he knows this to be true, but a few oblivious people on AZB keep trying to state that SVB could become world class in snooker if only he practiced the game. BS, no freaking chance, he can NEVER become world class at snooker at this point, he knows this and that is why he is not bothering to try. There is MILLIONS of dollars there waiting for him if he could.
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Lol, I didnt say he could play snooker, can you read? I said snooker 8 ball, which is what I was teasingly calling Chinese 8 Ball...

We aren't talking about how much money earned or who earns the most. We are talking about best all around player... Hands down, it's Shane period. My statement was that "if" he took the time, he could play better than those guys, he probably doesnt even like the game of snooker enough to invest the time and effort. I know if I were him, I wouldn't spend the time and effort to learn the discipline of snooker. Take all those guys, and line them up, play snooker, play one pocket, nine ball, ten ball, eight ball, chinese (japenese, whatever nese) eight ball, and see who comes out on top....... My bets going to be on Shane for sure....
 
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pletho said:
Lol, I didnt say he could play snooker, can you read? I said snooker 8 ball, which is what I was teasingly calling Chinese 8 Ball...

We aren't talking about how much money earned or who earns the most. We are talking about best all around player... Hands down, it's Shane period. My statement was that "if" he took the time, he could play better than those guys, he probably doesnt even like the game of snooker enough to invest the time and effort. I know if I were him, I wouldn't spend the time and effort to learn the discipline of snooker. Take all those guys, and line them up, play snooker, play one pocket, nine ball, ten ball, eight ball, chinese (japenese, whatever nese) eight ball, and see who comes out on top....... My bets going to be on Shane for sure....
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You would lose your money (at least on the snooker bet).

And what does it matter if he likes it or not. If he had a legitimate chance at making wayyyyyyyyyyy more money than he does now, then he'd be an idiot to not be all over it.

The sad truth about it is, however, is that he doesn't have a legitimate chance. He could spend the next 10 years playing nothing but snooker, and would be lucky to crack the top 16. I hate to side with our friends across the pond, but reality is reality.
 
BeiberLvr said:
You would lose your money (at least on the snooker bet).

And what does it matter if he likes it or not. If he had a legitimate chance at making wayyyyyyyyyyy more money than he does now, then he'd be an idiot to not be all over it.

The sad truth about it is, however, is that he doesn't have a legitimate chance. He could spend the next 100 years playing nothing but snooker, and would be lucky to crack the top 100 I hate to side with our friends across the pond, but reality is reality.
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fixed it for ya, I'm sure if Hendry (7 times world champ and most winning player in history) is no longer competitive then a pool player aint gonna be lol this thread is just too funny for words, I wish some of these scenarios could play out in reality then I could win all your monies and retire.
 
How much weight does SVB need to compete with Ronnie? How much do you think Ronnie would need to compete with Shane in 10 ball?

This should be interesting.
 
corvette1340 said:
who the f@#$ is Garfield Potts? Seriously, nobody here in the states gives a rats ass about some English cricket player that couldn't hold my jock strap, much less SVB's. I'll spot him the last 5 in the pawn world.
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I think it was someone from the states that started this thread and asked the
question regarding Gareth Potts .

To be fair I don't think I would like to hold your jock strap, before or after use?
 
Celtic said:
Yeah, except that Potts did "not" grow up playing Chinese 8-ball.

It is a relatively new game and TBPH the fact it uses regulation size "pool" balls, the fact it is played on a 9 foot table, and the fact that the game uses "standard (read American) style 8-ball rules favors SVB, not Potts.

What Potts gets is the tight snooker cut pockets, which in effect demand more accuracy.

If Potts is better at Chinese 8-ball (and it would seem almost everyone on here admit to that including the SVB fans) then one must ask "why?".

Is it because he is a better potter then SVB and the tight snooker cut pockets simply show this?

Is it because Potts plays better 8-ball patterns then SVB and thus has fewer tough shots?

Is it because Potts has better overall cue ball control then SVB and thus manages the racks better?

I think most here would agree, SVB "should" have a huge breaking advantage given the regulation pool ball size on these 9-foot tables.

Is it really simply a matter of taking a game that SVB is supposedly "the" master of, using regulation sized pool balls that SVB is used to, using a 9-foot table that SVB is used to, playing a game that SVB is normally great at, and doing nothing more then making the pockets far more demanding in pocketing the balls, and suddenly SVB can no longer be considered the best?

Where is the weakness that suddenly makes SVB such a dog in a game that has so many things that SHOULD favor him. This game is more akin to American pool then it is to the Blackball pool that Potts came from. It has American rules, American balls, is on an American sized 9-foot, and the ONLY thing different is the pockets are tight and demand far more accurate shot making.

Demand more accurate shot making and suddenly SVB cannot win? Is thjat seriously all it took? If that is the case is this guy really the best overall player out there? Being able to pocket the balls and play the shape to make pocketing those balls as easy as possible IS 99% of the game, and it seems we are all here admitting that SVB cannot beat Potts in a game that demands just that...
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Hung drawn and quartered.

Very well said...
 
chevybob20 said:
You guys on the other side of the pond keep bringing up 8 ball and variations of it. If 8 ball is the only game in his wheelhouse then stand proud behind your man. Just don't shoot the messenger when the facts are pointed out.
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8 ball is the only game of pool played significantly in the UK. I believe that is also the case in the USA and indeed that is the case right across Europe and Africa too.
 
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