Gareth Potts vs SVB.. who wins?

jhanso18 said:
And again I say, if he's an easy target, why don't your boys come rob him??????????? Because they can't. Bring on Pott's and his backer to play some 8ball. I'm guessing we will here crickets. The big difference between you brits chirping and us is that our boy has made good, where your boys seem scared to match up...

There was an open invitation for YEARS. Come to South Dakota, and get played for whatever you want, 8ball or 10ball. Seems odd no one showed up for that "easy" pay day... He could go off as a 50-100k loser, and no one has bitten. Seems like a ticket to Sioux Falls is cheap when weighed against a $50k+ payday...
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I said blackball, not 8 ball.

I could think of 20/30 players minimum that would love to lock SVB or any other US american pool player or indeed a lot of top snooker players in a room with a Black ball table and all of his money and as much money as he could get hold of from backers and not let him out until it was all gone.
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Why can't people read???

And as for my 20/30 people. That was just off the top of my head.

I would play him at blackball for money. No problem. Next time here is here in the UK. He has a guaranteed game - against me.

And I am a very lowly ranked amateur on the IPA tour.... ;)
 
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TheThaiger said:
Fair comment on all points. I'd add; C8B is the same game as A8B, but much, much more difficult. Does difficulty not determine the best player?
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C8B is certainly different from A8B, whether it's more difficult or not is I think a rather awkward question to answer.

I'm not sure how you would actually measure relative difficulty of two sports except perhaps the probability of achieving success in that sport given a certain investment of resources (time, capital, etc...). Then, the difficulty of most endeavors would be determined by the size of the participant pool.
 
voiceofreason said:
I said blackball, not 8 ball.

Why can't people read???

And as for my 20/30 people. That was just off the top of my head.

I would play him at blackball for money. No problem. Next time here is here in the UK. He has a guaranteed game - against me.

And I am a very lowly ranked amateur on the IPA tour.... ;)
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Careful Howard. You might have to crack out the Zimmer Frame
 
BJTyler said:
C8B is certainly different from A8B, whether it's more difficult or not is I think a rather awkward question to answer.

I'm not sure how you would actually measure relative difficulty of two sports except perhaps the probability of achieving success in that sport given a certain investment of resources (time, capital, etc...). Then, the difficulty of most endeavors would be determined by the size of the participant pool.
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His point is the only really difference is the cut of the pockets.

Balls the same
Rules basically the same
cues the same
cloths the same

So what is the big difference?
 
voiceofreason said:
His point is the only really difference is the cut of the pockets.

Balls the same
Rules basically the same
cues the same
cloths the same

So what is the big difference?
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IMO - there are three major differences that significantly impact play:

1) The snooker cut of the pockets changes the margin of error of certain shots. This has a huge impact on shot/pattern selection.
2) The smaller size of the pockets puts a larger premium on precise shot making.
3) The velvety texture of the cloth generates a tremendous amount of friction against the balls, therefore you rarely have to stroke very hard to generate the required draw, spin, etc... (btw...this is based upon my personal experience with a number of C8B tables that I played on while visiting China last year)
 
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TheThaiger said:
Lol.

Learn to read. How many English pool tables are there in South Dakota?

Ultimately, you need to have wider experience before you comment on such matters.
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Ultimately your boys are scared. Simple as that. American 8 ball should be easier for your guys, since it's so much harder, Shane can't play it...


Chirp chirp guys. Fact of the matter is against some of the other US pros vs. Euro pros you guys have a legit argument. The only thing bad you can say about SVB is he can't snap off tournament filled with the worlds best, on foreign soil...

You want to make a payday open up your wallet and bring your guy. SVB is an easy score from what I understand from the Voice, and Thaiger. Come snap him off... LOL.

It's funny how some people think SVB has never seen a snooker table before, or for that matter never played C8B.

Good luck haters. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
 
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cleary said:
I heard that dude is LEGIT BEAST but won't play tournaments.
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The other guy thought I was joking...If I was a knocker I would say who he gave the last 2 and the 8-ball too. The tourney crew think they know all the action guys though. I hope he shows up at the Expo though, so someone else sees it.
 
mikeyfrost said:
The other guy thought I was joking...If I was a knocker I would say who he gave the last 2 and the 8-ball too. The tourney crew think they know all the action guys though. I hope he shows up at the Expo though, so someone else sees it.
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Admittedly, I thought it was levity to sideline the Brit tea-talk going on in this thread.

But I'll be down there, and would love to see it!
 
jhanso18 said:
It's funny how some people think SVB has never seen a snooker table before, or for that matter never played C8B.
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People know Shane has seen a snooker table before. They also know his high break is somewhere around the fifty mark.

Not that there is anything wrong with that - he is an American pool player. But to suggest he could compete at snooker or English 8 ball is ludicrous.
 
This thread, like most of it's ilk, serves no purpose - apart from troll baiting and the massaging of one's net p*****s
 
SakuJack said:
People know Shane has seen a snooker table before. They also know his high break is somewhere around the fifty mark.

Not that there is anything wrong with that - he is an American pool player. But to suggest he could compete at snooker or English 8 ball is ludicrous.
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Do you really think with a work ethic like SVB's he couldn't get better in a short time. He started toying around with straight pool, and within a couple weeks was well over 100 ball runs, and within a year was over 200. I know apples to oranges, but think about this. Snooker, he is obviously never going to be a monster like Ronnie, I'm not saying that. But the snooker cut pockets that everyone is pissing themselves over aren't as big a deal as you guys want to make them to be. Further more, English eight ball isn't as far a cry away that Shane can't pick it up and be a legit contender within a VERY short amount of time.

I know the next argument already, "then why doesn't he do it???" Why did Appleton walk away from it? Why are all the top brits living in America? Hmmmmmmmmmm... The better more interesting question is, if these Brits are so good, why aren't guys like Shaw, Appleton, etc, chomping at the bit to snap Shane off for a big score? They certainly aren't hiding there names, they definitely aren't sand bagging looking to match up else where. Shane is the biggest score there is, IF, IF, IF you can take him to the cleaners... Between his own bank roll and backers, a guy could make a pretty quick, $20k+ score, yet they don't even attempt to try.

Look I'm not saying the other players aren't great, but you're all barking up the wrong tree.
 
jhanso18 said:
Do you really think with a work ethic like SVB's he couldn't get better in a short time. He started toying around with straight pool, and within a couple weeks was well over 100 ball runs, and within a year was over 200. I know apples to oranges, but think about this. Snooker, he is obviously never going to be a monster like Ronnie, I'm not saying that. But the snooker cut pockets that everyone is pissing themselves over aren't as big a deal as you guys want to make them to be. Further more, English eight ball isn't as far a cry away that Shane can't pick it up and be a legit contender within a VERY short amount of time.

I know the next argument already, "then why doesn't he do it???" Why did Appleton walk away from it? Why are all the top brits living in America? Hmmmmmmmmmm... The better more interesting question is, if these Brits are so good, why aren't guys like Shaw, Appleton, etc, chomping at the bit to snap Shane off for a big score? They certainly aren't hiding there names, they definitely aren't sand bagging looking to match up else where. Shane is the biggest score there is, IF, IF, IF you can take him to the cleaners... Between his own bank roll and backers, a guy could make a pretty quick, $20k+ score, yet they don't even attempt to try.

Look I'm not saying the other players aren't great, but you're all barking up the wrong tree.
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Pure hyperbole and a distinct lack of facts, clueless :speechless:
 
jhanso18 said:
Why are all the top brits living in America?
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Out of a couple of hundred thousand regular blackball pool players at least, how many are living in the USA?

Three/four?

And which top ones at what discipline? American pool? There are only a few thousand of them, tops, in the whole of the UK.
 
voiceofreason said:
This thread, like most of it's ilk, serves no purpose - apart from troll baiting and the massaging of one's net p*****s
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couldn't disagree more. The point I guess was, if they were to play all around in 2 sets each that are more dominant in, could one potentially win, or would they tie 2-2.
Not a troll thread at all.
 
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jhanso18 said:
I know the next argument already, "then why doesn't he do it???" Why did Appleton walk away from it? Why are all the top brits living in America? Hmmmmmmmmmm... The better more interesting question is, if these Brits are so good, why aren't guys like Shaw, Appleton, etc, chomping at the bit to snap Shane off for a big score? They certainly aren't hiding there names, they definitely aren't sand bagging looking to match up else where. Shane is the biggest score there is, IF, IF, IF you can take him to the cleaners... Between his own bank roll and backers, a guy could make a pretty quick, $20k+ score, yet they don't even attempt to try.

Look I'm not saying the other players aren't great, but you're all barking up the wrong tree.
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Dennis asked Shane to gamble on table #1 at Hard Times. Shane would not play with his own money and Mars would not back him saying the match was too close to gamble on. So there is an even game Shane would not play..... You make it sound like Shane will play anyone at any time and that is simply not the case.
 
Just an amusing anecdote for ya, Mizerak was in the UK late 80's. He played a local (non ranked) at English 8 ball for 50 a game, local beats him 10 zip oh how we laughed. :lol:
 
j_zippel said:
couldn't disagree more. The point I guess was, if they were to play all around in 2 sets each that are more dominant in, could one potentially win, or would they tie 2-2.
Not a troll thread at all.
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And if it's 2-2... Why not have a boxing match to see who is the overall winner?:boring2::boring2::boring2::boring2:

English 8 ball/Blackball - Potts cannot be beaten by SVB
Snooker - Potts Cannot be beaten by SVB
Chinese 8 ball - Coin toss?
American 8 ball - Coin toss?
Rotation games - SVB?
Other games unfamiliar to Potts played on an American table - SVB?
 
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Slasher said:
Just an amusing anecdote for ya, Mizerak was in the UK late 80's. He played a local (non ranked) at English 8 ball for 50 a game, local beats him 10 zip oh how we laughed. :lol:
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Forget Potts, I'd love to get SVB in a room for cash at English 8 ball (black ball).
 
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