Genuine Concern Over AzB

Kickin' Chicken

Kickin' Chicken

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As I write this, 10:45 am on Sunday, there are still posts from yesterday at 3pm here on page 1.

It seems to me that traffic on az is way down.

Am I figuring this wrong?

I've been reading how some key posters have been migrating away to facebook, maybe this is what's siphoning posters away.

Whatever it is, I don't like it.

I'm sitting here with my Sunday cup of coffee looking to catch up on what's new but I quickly ran into yesterday's topics.

Is there anything we can do to fix it?

I would sincerely love for AZ to remain the go-to destination on the web for everything to do with pool.

Are people going to an AZ Facebook page to interact there, instead?

l don't use facebook much. :o

best,
brian kc
 
this is most disturbing news. I too have noticed a drop and thought it might be the time of year (spring breaks etc). the 14.1 forum is on it's last breath I think, although the popularity it certainly not what it used to be in the past. I usually visit 5 or so times a day and the hours before 7 am are painful as the speed might as well be snail mail. as far as facebook, I hope this is not the trend as I do not do facebook ever and never will in the future. what would we do without az ? :shrug: let's not fix something that ain't broke!
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
As I write this, 10:45 am on Sunday, there are still posts from yesterday at 3pm here on page 1.

It seems to me that traffic on az is way down.

Am I figuring this wrong?

I've been reading how some key posters have been migrating away to facebook, maybe this is what's siphoning posters away.

Whatever it is, I don't like it.

I'm sitting here with my Sunday cup of coffee looking to catch up on what's new but I quickly ran into yesterday's topics.

Is there anything we can do to fix it?

I would sincerely love for AZ to remain the go-to destination on the web for everything to do with pool.

Are people going to an AZ Facebook page to interact there, instead?

l don't use facebook much. :o

best,
brian kc
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My observation is that the traffic in the Main Forum has been going down for quite a while. No stats, just how it feels.

Yes, a lot of people prefer the FB where they can control the environment but the other thing that I've noticed is that people here don't talk to each other as much as they used to. IOW, there are more stand alone posts rather than back-and-forth conversations.

Also, I think way more feuds and hard feelings have developed over the years. The schematic diagram on this would be incredible.

Lastly, I think almost everyone feels butt hurt over one thing or another. A good post that didn't generate much response; a comment from another member that was perceived as a slight; honest disagreements that devolved into something nastier and more hurtful to one party or the other.

The forums are just not for everyone and, over time, as things have become more inbred here, that is probably truer than ever.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
My observation is that the traffic in the Main Forum has been going down for quite a while. No stats, just how it feels.

Yes, a lot of people prefer the FB where they can control the environment but the other thing that I've noticed is that people here don't talk to each other as much as they used to. IOW, there are more stand alone posts rather than back-and-forth conversations.

Also, I think way more feuds and hard feelings have developed over the years. The schematic diagram on this would be incredible.

Lastly, I think almost everyone feels butt hurt over one thing or another. A good post that didn't generate much response; a comment from another member that was perceived as a slight; honest disagreements that devolved into something nastier and more hurtful to one party or the other.

The forums are just not for everyone and, over time, as things have become more inbred here, that is probably truer than ever.

Lou Figueroa
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This is a pretty good observation imo with a lot of good points.

I noticed too that there are not as many remarks about others posts on here as there are on most forums. The way you described it as stand alone posts is perfect. It seems to have been like that every since I started here though as compared to the other forums I have visited in the past. I just figured the crowd might be a little different here as opposed to other forums. Did there use to be more interaction here in the past?
 
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(((Satori))) said:
This is a pretty good observation imo with a lot of good points.

I noticed too that there are not a many remarks about others posts on here as there are on most forums. The way you described it as stand alone posts is perfect. It seems to have been like that every since I started here though as compared to the other forums I have visited in the past. I just figured the crowd might be a little different here as opposed to other forums. Did there use to be more interaction here in the past?
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less fighting and less battle threads!!!

Plus, all the topics have been beat to death!!!

Not much, left to say!!!

KD
 
There has to be a reason to drop in and few reasons to keep you away. More sharing of info (even if it has been said before) and less acrimony would help. Treat people like you would face to face. Looking at the ladies thread , is it any wonder most have left? Do you really think they would accept that kind of attitude in person? Look at the conflicts here. They are typically mean-spirited arguments rather than measured discussions. The thanks to CJ Wiley thread is the same - disagree with his approach and what he says, but think about how so many of the posts were handled.

Keep in mind the old saying about birds of a feather. The way a large portion of the posters treat others in addition to the content will set the tenor of the people who join, participate and stay.
 
Kid Dynomite said:
less fighting and less battle threads!!!

Plus, all the topics have been beat to death!!!

Not much, left to say!!!

KD
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Yeah. I guess on other forums there is a lot more talk about current event topics such as recent fights and stuff but you rarely see threads here for example discussing the shot Corey made against Skyler and then how he missed the eight ball right after.

When there are current event topics discussed there is usually a lot of back and forth... but those topics are usually negative with a lot of fighting. I'm not against arguing but a balance would be cool. I wonder what it is that causes the lack of discussion over some great matches and stuff.
 
Posters

People are more interested in what they have to say themselves than read about others.

We may have to wait for the next generation of pool players. How many times can you discuss chalk, tips and cues.

Pro players stay away because people that can't run three balls criticize and degrade them much more often than offering any praise.

Bring back the aiming system wars and get rid of the moderators. We need some characters back on here.
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
As I write this, 10:45 am on Sunday, there are still posts from yesterday at 3pm here on page 1.

It seems to me that traffic on az is way down.

Am I figuring this wrong?

I've been reading how some key posters have been migrating away to facebook, maybe this is what's siphoning posters away.

Whatever it is, I don't like it.

I'm sitting here with my Sunday cup of coffee looking to catch up on what's new but I quickly ran into yesterday's topics.

Is there anything we can do to fix it?

I would sincerely love for AZ to remain the go-to destination on the web for everything to do with pool.

Are people going to an AZ Facebook page to interact there, instead?

l don't use facebook much. :o

best,
brian kc
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There has been about 50 postings this morning. If you go on other forums that is quite a few. Even on this forum the ask the cuemaker may go 24 hours with no postings. People may tend to respond to newer subjects and those topics stay at the top.

I responded to this topic but it is unlikely I will have any more to say on the subject. Meaning I may sign on again later but not make any posts unless I actually have something to say., I may have said what I have to say.

By the way, look at what is staying at the top, a BS thread that has nothing to do with pool anymore, just people arguing about nothing.
 
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Threads started in the main forum:

Last month: 693
Last year: 8.300
Last 2 years: 18.000
Last 3 years: 28.000
last 4 years: 38.000
last 5 years: 50.000

So, while numbers are down a tad, nothing dramatic is happening. Espescially if you consider
that several subforums did not exist 5 years ago that are there now (meaning the 8300 would
be higher if we did not have these subforums like aiming conversations).

gr. Dave

EDIT: Some more exact number I looked up last years:

In 2013 10370 threads were started in the main forum
in 2012 10033 threads were started in the main forum
in 2011 10920 threads were started in the main forum
in 2010 11824 threads were started in the main forum
in 2009 12289 threads were started in the main forum
in 2008 12598 threads were started in the main forum

EDIT again:

Milestone posts:

5million 12-10-2014
4 million 02-07-2013
3 million 05-05-2011
2 million 09-07-2009

So the last million posts (counting milestones) took around 22 months, the million before that 21 months.
The last 100.000 posts took 3 months and 2 days. So, lately there has been a dropoff, caused mainly by the new W/FS rules
where the number of posts is way down.
 
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I just think the whole thing is becoming obsolete.

The same topics are repeated over and over but created in new threads so that all the discussion and answers presented before are forgotten.

People would rather start new threads rather than search the old threads and bump them up.

But, I don't really blame them since the search feature in AzB is so basic and almost useless.

Anyway, these things make me less eager to participate….
 
Just be patient Brian, Pooky and his band of azb jackals will pile on you or someone else soon.:D. Makes for great azb drama and hundreds of posts.
 
Expiration of Ideas...

Kickin' Chicken said:
As I write this, 10:45 am on Sunday, there are still posts from yesterday at 3pm here on page 1.

It seems to me that traffic on az is way down.

Am I figuring this wrong?

I've been reading how some key posters have been migrating away to facebook, maybe this is what's siphoning posters away.

Whatever it is, I don't like it.

I'm sitting here with my Sunday cup of coffee looking to catch up on what's new but I quickly ran into yesterday's topics.

Is there anything we can do to fix it?

I would sincerely love for AZ to remain the go-to destination on the web for everything to do with pool.

Are people going to an AZ Facebook page to interact there, instead?

l don't use facebook much. :o

best,
brian kc
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Pool is a great game full of personal challenge and accomplishment. A lot of people think its awesome and want the game to be more mainstream and popular but pool is going to do whatever its going to do. Its hard for any one person to do much for pool. When that is realized I think people migrate elsewhere.

Also some of the people and things in pool can be somewhat of a turn off and that causes people to have less to say and more likely to focus on other things.

Even though people have cycles of pool activity, it seems that fewer people are coming into pool and that is of some concern although its said that league play is way up. A lot of league players know little of the pool world and AZ. Ask one sometime you will find that out.

Pool is a larger organization of Mom and Pop businesses and its hard to get much consensus between them when they are mostly concerned with their business model. If it doesn't pay for itself it goes away.

It is spring time and time to be outside.

Some times its just a tough business to be in and no one wants to try and recruit new people to it, it seems. Unfortunately that is a self fulfilling prophesy.
 
beetle said:
I just think the whole thing is becoming obsolete.

The same topics are repeated over and over but created in new threads so that all the discussion and answers presented before are forgotten.

People would rather start new threads rather than search the old threads and bump them up.

But, I don't really blame them since the search feature in AzB is so basic and almost useless.

Anyway, these things make me less eager to participate….
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That is a good thing. It brings back topics and there are always new twists or things to be added to the subject.

Not to mention people who have not seen the topic at all, were not even looking for it, but find something of value. Beyond who just died, there is not much new to even be said on the subject of pool, period.
 
Aloha

Some good points on here.

But maybe most were just out late after the Pacman fight. I know I found some late night action after the fight, seems like people were in the gambling mood. I'm just glad they were not in the fighting mood.

Don't worry KC I'm sure the babbling sycophants will be back in full force in no time.

Aloha
 
jazznpool said:
Just be patient Brian, Pooky and his band of azb jackals will pile on you or someone else soon.:D. Makes for great azb drama and hundreds of posts.
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NO

what you did and how you handled it was "Wrong"

When you VOUCH for someone and they do wrong it inevitably falls back on you as it should. You "CHOOSE" not to be honorable and honor the "Vouch" you made posting items on your site and misleading people that your business stands behind the sale!

Your post and comment is in EXTREMELY poor taste!

Sincerely,
Kd
Mike Wilson
 
Unless one has a thousand Friends on Face Book, you can go thru your page quickly.

I have a few Friends on mine that post interesting things but for the most part, I link to
certain sites. 3 Million Dogs, Living Off The Grid, Confessions of a Funeral Director, which you might think is weird, well, it kind of is but interesting also. A fair amount of humor. Been there, done that in a Funeral Home. If I ever feel the need to be depressed, I just have to go read Funeral stories, embalming etc, those type of sites.

I often receive Friend requests several times removed. Like, A friend, of a friend, of a friend, and so on down the line. What's the point of that, unless you are into collecting Friends which I am sure many are into.

I wasn't much into Face Book. I registered but my page was a blank for years. I kept receiving Face Book notices in my emails so finally decided to work on the page.

I like mine the way it is and check in once or twice a day to read. But far from living on it as I am sure many do also.

It's Spring Brian. Up here, where I am anyway, we haven't had an actual Spring for so many Years, I lost hope of ever seeing another. I should be outside working on the boat and doing a bit of yard work, which is on the list instead of typing posts.

I doubt you or AZB has anything to worry about. I will always check in on AZ several times a day, as probably most members will. But honestly, any message board is going to take a back seat when the weather is nice.
 
This is not the only posting board for me. Seems to me they all go through highs and lows, and suffer personality clashes. I won't facebook or tweet, so can't make comparisons there.
 
PW. I think you and The Kid are correct. A Message Board is bound to go thru it's Highs and Lows.

AZ isn't going anywhere any time soon. It will stick around.
 
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