George Breedlove Carl Bolm Roadman Dumped and Stole and It Will Be Addressed

people run 100 balls one handed
as usual az people are not familiar with gaff games

i believe i saw a run of 50 one handed jacked up here on az

george breedlove beat me playing jacked up to my 2 handed at one pocket

mike massey gave me the 7 and played 1 handed jacked up


if i am remembering correctly a man offered to play dick lane straight pool one handed and dick demurred

dick was a very good straight pool player,he beat many people here playing 150 no count


LET THIS BE A LESSON<IF YOU GUYS MESS WITH THE BULL
DON'T BE SURPRISED IF YOU GET THE HORNS

IF YOU ARE NOT IN WITH IT ,THEN YOU ARE THE SUCKER


IF you have been the sucker,be a good one tell the story about the time you did something stupid

Instead of being the object of the joke,turn it around and be part of the fun

Milton Berl,uncle Milte
 
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Yup...just coz you haven't seen it doesn't mean it can't be done.

People can do some crazy things.

Pool tables are not immune.

deanoc said:
people run 100 balls one handed
as usual az people are not familiar with gaff games

i believe i saw a run of 50 one handed jacked up here on az

george breedlove beat me playing jacked up to my 2 handed at one pocket

mike massey gave me the 7 and played 1 handed jacked up


if i am remembering correctly a man offered to play dick lane straight pool one handed and dick demurred

dick was a very good straight pool player,he beat many people here playing 150 no count


LET THIS BE A LESSON<IF YOU GUYS MESS WITH THE BULL
DON'T BE SURPRISED IF YOU GET THE HORNS

IF YOU ARE NOT IN WITH IT ,THEN YOU ARE THE SUCKER


IF you have been the sucker,be a good one tell the story about the time you did something stupid

Instead of being the object of the joke,turn it around and be part of the fun

Milton Berl,uncle Milte
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This is too much to read and I am sure this has been posted but why on earth would Carl dump, he has more $$ than 99% of the people in the building combined. Do you think he would dump and risk someone doing something stupid to him over a meaningless amount of $$ to him? The truth is he can't win or lose enough money there to make an impact on him at all so why would he dump. He's there to have a good time and make people uncomfortable by betting what is a big number to them. He gets off on that, but to him its insignificant so him dumping just seems out of the question to me. He typically loses and loses big so in all likelihood thats what happened here but I wasn't there so take that as just my opinion.
 
Now i am recalling a one handed wizard whose videos use to get posted here. Did incredible stuff-Maybe 5 years back-His name might have been Jesse something-Anyone remember him?
 
Nostroke said:
Now i am recalling a one handed wizard whose videos use to get posted here. Did incredible stuff-Maybe 5 years back-His name might have been Jesse something-Anyone remember him?
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Yes I remember seeing his videos. Bald guy right?
 
Somewhere I read an analysis about where the unemployed road player and/or pool hustler of an era got his gambling money. It was the 60s - 70s I think. The article claimed there was one really high roller and a few lesser high rollers who would occasionally lose big. The money from the big losses would filter down thru the player community, with each loss moving some from one player to another, gradually being consumed by player spending.

Players might get pretty thin on cash until another high roller went off. Then the money train would start over, cash filtering down and up and sideways as the various players lost and won playing each other. That was called "playing on your own money", but really, was it? They were playing on the money of some millionaire who could afford to lose thousands, whether they knew it or not. Guys who bet on the ponies or put half aside for a rainy day would break that revolving door of easy money.

The article named some names, and claimed to apply mostly in the east, and over a certain period of years. I don't know if it was true. When I read it with the original details intact I thought it sounded plausible, but maybe I'm just another sucker for a slick line.

You could look at the recent Derby and ask yourself - who won, who lost, who brought the money to win or lose - and there would be as many different answers as there were gamblers with money in play.
 
mostly true

Texdance said:
Somewhere I read an analysis about where the unemployed road player and/or pool hustler of an era got his gambling money. It was the 60s - 70s I think. The article claimed there was one really high roller and a few lesser high rollers who would occasionally lose big. The money from the big losses would filter down thru the player community, with each loss moving some from one player to another, gradually being consumed by player spending.

Players might get pretty thin on cash until another high roller went off. Then the money train would start over, cash filtering down and up and sideways as the various players lost and won playing each other. That was called "playing on your own money", but really, was it? They were playing on the money of some millionaire who could afford to lose thousands, whether they knew it or not. Guys who bet on the ponies or put half aside for a rainy day would break that revolving door of easy money.

The article named some names, and claimed to apply mostly in the east, and over a certain period of years. I don't know if it was true. When I read it with the original details intact I thought it sounded plausible, but maybe I'm just another sucker for a slick line.

You could look at the recent Derby and ask yourself - who won, who lost, who brought the money to win or lose - and there would be as many different answers as there were gamblers with money in play.
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Mostly true. There are a few full time hustlers that hang around pool halls and bars. They are a drain because they live off of their winnings. By far the biggest drain is hall and bar owners. They have to meet a large nut to survive and that comes from their business, and that pool of floating cash. Most of that cash is churned over and over so much of the money in a pool room isn't real in one respect. If it was all marked and only used once there would be a lot of broke people around a pool room!

Hu
 
I shared this thread with Carl and his response was quite funny, "Laughable! The "sucker" ME finally wins a bet (small bet I might add) and I dumped!! Lmao!! He also added that he didn't know the original poster. Don't think he read far enough into the comments to see the threat of going to the gaming commission. Carl used to be a managing partner in 2 river boat casinos years ago and had another of his own. Hasn't been in the casino business for years, but is very familiar with all of the regulations.
 
ribdoner said:
pretty sure it was playing RM "jacked up"

AZ member "ibaxxx" rated HOLM as a capable apa 7 speed player. i respect his ability to clock speed so RM losing the set is understandable once HOLM stretched out.

assuming the match was legit RM not pushing for a 3rd set is also validation
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If that's the case he might not have been hustled but even if he was the original DCC was at Johnston City and was dubbed a hustler's convention. Complaining about getting hustled at a hustler's convention is akin to going water skiing and complaining you got wet.
 
these are not the one i saw
it was very believable,he ran 50 balls i think

these are trick shots or trick photography
 
southpawSW said:
They were given 3 straight days to simply cancel the bet with no admission of wrong doing but they ran over and over and over. So going to the gambling commission is on them they made that decision and made out with exponentially more than this but couldn’t cancel a bet and agree to never gamble with him again over this somewhat small amount. Also to be technical they took advantage of an elderly man I was accompanying that I will not name. I’m just the wrong guy to see it.
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Yeah, this makes a lot of sense... Make a bad decision that results in losing some amount of money, then follow up THAT bad decision with another one by getting the gambling commission involved, which will NOT get your money back, but MAY result in putting a hard stop to all gambling at DCC.

Seems like a good way to get a few thousand nonrelated people pissed off at you for getting rid of all gambling at DCC. That kind of tattletale nonsense gets people hurt, don'tcha know?
 
hmmm

Maybe Im confused about something, is this about the cut shot? I bet 2k he would miss and got paid.....is there something else that I magically missed? If so I feel left out now lol
 
OldOrvis said:
Maybe Im confused about something, is this about the cut shot? I bet 2k he would miss and got paid.....is there something else that I magically missed? If so I feel left out now lol
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You need to go back to the OP and his posts. somewhere the discussion of that cut shot got mixed in with the OP's complaint. It took awhile for us to even know that one-shot bet was for a cut into the corner pocket, not a two rail shot back to the shooters corner pocket, or a cut into the side.

Basically, Carl & Co. lost a tough bet, then halfway through the second set for the same bet he opened a window for all comers - while Carl was down 2-5 in a race to 9. So down 2-5 of course he got a lot of takers. He closed the bet window right away. Then Carl won three quick games on easy combos, another on a nine on the break, reportedly four in a row (I wasn't there) then his opponent didn't get good opportunities and Carl came back to win the second set - but now he had lots more money to win than he lost in the first set just betting against the lone other player.

The OP couldn't believe Carl could win, believed it had to be a dump, and got all butt-hurt about it.

somewhere along the way Carl's 10k or 11k or 13k loss on a single shot got discussed.

I believe, as do many others, that Carl & Co. played it straight, and won a big bet from that down 2-5 position. The consensus is that Carl is rich enough that tens of thousands do not faze him a bit, win or lose. The OP can't see it that way. He wanted to get violent at the Derby, got security called on his ass, took it to social media, got blocked, then brought his complaint here and got himself banned pretty quick.

The OP doesn't realize that Carl & Co. could never repay anyone and admit dumping for a few reasons - first, they weren't guilty, second, if they were guilty it would be stupid to admit it, and third, to admit to dumping when the game was straight would be really stupid, and maybe hurt their ability to get bets in the future.

So, setting aside the OP's butt-hurt attitude, what I'd like to know concerns Carl's one shot attempt, the attempt he lost somewhere over 10k on. Did he ever make another attempt, and win 40k, later that night, as has been casually reported here by a couple of posters?

Did anyone see that alleged one-shot 40k win in person?
 
What amazes me is why would anyone even want to bet a dime on a game they aren't involved in. I've played pool for many years and watched all kinds of money games and have never bet a dime on any of them. If I'm not playing I could care less who wins.
 
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