Ginacue Box Cue: The First Box Cue Ever Made

ibuycues

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Hi All,

Ginacue (Ernie Gutierrez) made the first box cue ever built, for Champagne Eddie Kelly in 1969.
Kelly traveled the country gambling with the cue, and it had a significant influence on many of the top cuemakers of the day.

Most top cuemakers have made box cues, including Gus and Barry Szamboti, Bill Stroud (Josswest), Bill Schick,
David Kersenbrock, Dennis Searing, Ron Haley, Joel Hercek, Tim Scruggs, Andy Gilbert, Paul Mottey and a host of others.
In many cases, box cues are among the most expensive cues they made.

As part of my cue collection, I am honored to own the first two box cues ever made, both by Ernie Gutierrez, both with full provenance.
I was recently asked to post some pictures of the first box cue made, the ebony Ginacue with ivory boxes.
If you have never seen the cue, you will recognize it based on box cues made over the years since 1969 by others.

I hope you enjoy the cue as much as I do. (It was made the year Rhoda and I got married. Whew!)

Will Prout
 

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ibuycues

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A couple more pictures of the cue.........
Left to right in the first picture the cues are:
Josswest
Josswest (pink ivory, Stroud’s personal cue)
Josswest (original owner)
Kersenbrock (only box cue DPK made)
Gus Szamboti (made for Lee Boyer, female player who took Roadrunner photo)
Ginacue (first box cue made)
Barry Szamboti (original owner)
Gus Szamboti
Josswest (made for Richie Florence, first ever cored forearm cue)
Josswest (made for Jim Rempe)

Will Prout
 

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ibuycues

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Here is my Dennis Searing box cue.

Will Prout
 

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CueCaps

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Glad to see....

Will,
The world of cue enthusiast are so grateful that you have such a fine collection of Bill Stroud's works.
I am.... :)

Thanks for showing..

Alton :)
 

ibuycues

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Eddie Kelly with the box cue.....

Will Prout
 

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Snooker Theory

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That is a beautiful collection, do you have a favorite or impossible to pick Will?

Who made the cue the 2nd from the right(looks like a holly forearm).
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ibuycues

I Love Box Cues
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That is a beautiful collection, do you have a favorite or impossible to pick Will?

Who made the cue the 2nd from the right(looks like a holly forearm).
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Snooker Theory,
No favorites, I like’em all.
The white forearm cue is a Joss West cue that was made for Richie Florence.
The forearm is made of an artificial ivory material that Bill used sometimes on joints and buttcaps, called ivory implex.
A plasticized material of some sort, over a core. This cue is the first cue ever built with a cored forearm.
I believe he delivered the cue to Richie in Las Vegas at a big event. One of three he made like this, all slightly different.

Will
 

Thecoats

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Beautiful Collection Will,

Thank you so much for sharing and play with them in the greatest of health my friend.

-don
 

nick serdula

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Like the Great One once said

Hoooooow sweet it is!
I held that Gus long ago.
Back when it was only 12K!!
Thanks for sharing,
Nick:)
 

ga9ball

South West Buyer!
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Extraordinary collection Sir!
Love to hit a rack with that DPK.
Wow


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WildWing

AzB Silver Member
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Magnificent, Will, to have Champagne Ed Kelly's box cue. You know I'm a fan of box cues.

There's another box cue I wish you'd have ended up with. Well, I wish I ended up with it. There was a Baltimore player who went by Bo Diddley, back in the early to mid 70s. He played with a Joss ebony forearm box cue, very fancy, very similar to many you have. He played at Gentlemens Cue, Reisterstown, Maryland. Good player. And great cue.

All the best,
Hoot
 

ibuycues

I Love Box Cues
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Magnificent, Will, to have Champagne Ed Kelly's box cue. You know I'm a fan of box cues.

There's another box cue I wish you'd have ended up with. Well, I wish I ended up with it. There was a Baltimore player who went by Bo Diddley, back in the early to mid 70s. He played with a Joss ebony forearm box cue, very fancy, very similar to many you have. He played at Gentlemens Cue, Reisterstown, Maryland. Good player. And great cue.

All the best,
Hoot

Thanks, Hoot.
I hope all is well with you as we head into summer.
Will
 

Tommy-D

World's best B player...
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Ginacue Box Cue: The First Box Cue Ever Made

What does the Gina hit like? Tommy D.
 

ibuycues

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What does the Gina hit like? Tommy D.

Tommy,
Like a dream. Nice weight, great balance and sound upon strike.
I’ve had it over to Shooters Olathe many times, and let anyone hit balls with it that wants to, just like I do with any of my cues.
Everyone likes it a lot!

A museum piece, not just hanging on a wall.

Will Prout
 
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