I've had both and yes, the diamond is a 'better' table...but the experience is really about the same at the end of the day.
I will admit the diamond is a Mercedes and the gc is a Ford.
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I will admit the diamond is a Mercedes and the gc is a Ford.
I used to own Fords. I got rid of them just before they left warranty.
The hundred or so GC3s that went in around here around 1995 had the dying rubber disease. Right next to some of them was a Brunswick carom table from the 1930s that still had the original rubber and 9-cushion shots were not too hard.
We lag for the break at pool. Both the cue balls end up even with the side pockets. Gold Crown with "SuperSpeed".
Can you post pictures of your Gold Crown II? Is it in original condition?Oh good point Bob. I forgot to mention that. My GCII was re-rubbered/extended with the same Artemis rubber Diamond uses.
4-3/8" pockets. Simonis 860. Banks like a Diamond. Pockets like a Gold Crown. See what I did there
Maybe that's the source of the comments above about gold crown 3 being rubbish. Crap rubber.
I believe it somewhat well-known- maybe even acknowledged by Brunswick- the rubber sourced for a bit was crap.
Is that on the way down or on the way back?
The 3 is when the frame went to the un-supported end sills also. Not a huge deal and easily beefed up but was still a downgrade from 1-2 frames.
The cloth was Simonis so both of us got to the far rail.Is that on the way down or on the way back?
One other cost-cut was no pins between the slates. The front table at my main room had the foot slate buckle up in the middle giving some very strange rolls when you went across the slate joint. The repair guy ran a screw through the slate and pulled it back to flat.
My GC1 with the ashtrays.
fyi, I was told to be careful for these ashtray castings as far as becoming a potential obstruction on some shots but no such problem with these. In fact, though I;ve never had to, if needed the ashtrays simply lift out from the castings; some of the older guys will remember these being removed and emptied at the pool rooms.
fyi, I was told to be careful for these ashtray castings as far as becoming a potential obstruction on some shots but no such problem with these. In fact, though I;ve never had to, if needed the ashtrays simply lift out from the castings; some of the older guys will remember these being removed and emptied at the pool rooms.
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It is original frame, slate, legs, rails, skirts, trim, ball rack etc. Pocket castings were powder coated. Extended-Re rubber with Artemis. Simonis. Feet were soaked in CLR for several hours, wire brushed clean, washed, dried, and painted with a copper/bronze hammertone type paint.
Table is 1" "lower", but sitting up on 3/4 hard rubber biscuits, (Flood proofing) and Harbor Freight interlocking 1/2" sponge rubber matts are carpet taped to the floor. So comfy to play on.
Ive been told by the mechanic, that this is the best playing GCI, II or III in the state. And he has seen a few. He does work in 3 states.
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2’s are scarce and I don’t know a lot about them. So I just put them low on the list. Possible mistake on my part. Maybe they are better than 3’s. I’m not really confident in this. So by default I put them lower based on my experience or lack of.
5’s I didn’t like because the ones I had never stayed level. When they were level they were very nice. But 2 months later game over-balls rolling off every which way. I do like the cushions on them and the way the pockets & shelf’s.
I put the 3’s higher because I had one for years and it was always a good table. Also played in a zillion of them and they were good.
I like 4’s better
No matter what number GC we are talking about it is my firm opinion they are the best pool table ever built for players. Period hands down-end of story.
The centennials, anniversaries, klings. All look great but they don’t play good as a GC. The flat rails are an issue.
Forget monarchs they aren’t part of the conversation.
This is a great thread and congrats to everyone who has a GC in their home or where ever. Nice pics!
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Fatboy
The centennials, anniversaries, klings. All look great but they don’t play good as a GC. The flat rails are an issue.
Forget monarchs they aren’t part of the conversation.
This is a great thread and congrats to everyone who has a GC in their home or where ever. Nice pics!
Best
Fatboy
1998 GC4.... everyday is day one.This is a great thread and congrats to everyone who has a GC in their home of where ever. Nice pics!
Best
Fatboy
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I never had a problem with my GC4, but it came from a reputable source who said that additional bracing had been added to the frame. I only kept it a year or two and then put it online. Ended up selling it to a guy from New York. The moving "company" he hired to deliver it was two big Russian guys in an old stake bed truck. They had no clue how to move a pool table and I coached them on how to take it apart. All the time they were casing out my house (I can smell a rat). I felt uncomfortable having them in my home (just me and them) and actually stepped into my bedroom to put my cocked and loaded .25 in my back pocket. They "borrowed" some of my tools to take the table apart and used my heavy duty floor dolly to move the slate and frame.
After they were done (I watched them every moment), they got in their truck to drive off. My floor dolly was nowhere to be seen. I stopped them and told them to open the back of their truck. There sat my dolly. I asked them to take it out and put it on the ground. The guy acted like he was surprised it was there and was indignant with my tone of voice. We had a few words and he kind of threw it out on the ground (you couldn't hurt that rugged dolly. I had it for over 25 years and hauled all kinds of heavy objects on it). He took an attitude with me but I was prepared for whatever happened. He grumbled a bit and got back in the truck and they drove off.
I often wonder what they did to the poor guy who bought my table. I'm sure they held him up for extra money.