Good hit or a bad hit?

Bob thats what we thought during the game. We stopped, studied my iphone screen and my opponent, Jimmy Gestwicki, told me that it was clear I had not hit the one going in with the cueball and that we thought it was the cueball stunning forward after contact with the object ball then hitting the 1 based on the speed the 1 moved and direction it moved. He gave me that game. Then the next day I dumped my iphone video to youtube and in looking again, we concluded that it was more likely it was a carom four railer, which is no good in banks and the ball spots. So I got the game win with an asterisk. Which ill take lol since I need every win i can get playing sharpshooters who are 20 years my junior.
 
To me it looks like he hit the banked ball first very slightly on the left side with slight follow (almost stun). The cue ball came off the banked ball, nudged the other ball, followed forward to the cushion and out a little. Or maybe I'm seeing things wrong.
I went back and watched a few times and you're probably correct here. If he'd hit the one first it would have probably come up table.
 
To me it looks like he hit the banked ball first very slightly on the left side with slight follow (almost stun). The cue ball came off the banked ball, nudged the other ball, followed forward to the cushion and out a little. Or maybe I'm seeing things wrong.

I saw the same thing. I'd count that four rail bank.
 
To me it looks like he hit the banked ball first very slightly on the left side with slight follow (almost stun). The cue ball came off the banked ball, nudged the other ball, followed forward to the cushion and out a little. Or maybe I'm seeing things wrong.

This is exactly the way I saw it also. I would rule it good.
 
I love the friendly contradiction......"I think you won, but did you hit it first, or did you hit the one first?"

Lol. If he "thinks" you won, then he must've thought you hit the 7 clean and the 7 came out of there clean. :grin:

Regardless, good shooting!
 
To me it looks like he hit the banked ball first very slightly on the left side with slight follow (almost stun). The cue ball came off the banked ball, nudged the other ball, followed forward to the cushion and out a little. Or maybe I'm seeing things wrong.

That's what it looked like to me. But without a close-up camera angle it's a hard call. I'd go by the first statement made, "I think you won". ;)
 
That's what it looked like to me. But without a close-up camera angle it's a hard call. I'd go by the first statement made, "I think you won". ;)

It seems the evidence more supports that it was a good hit but even if the evidence didn't lean one way or the other even slightly and the hit is just too close to call then the "tie goes to the runner" / call goes in the shooter's favor. There is no question what the correct ruling here should be regardless of what the opponent said IMO.
 
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