Grady Mathews has a BLOG!

mroberts75 said:
I must say that I was there and what Southpaw and Corvette1340 are stating is the truth. The agreement was for two sets. Grady won the first set and pulled up, bottom line. Grady was offered to be payed for the first set and he said just keep it. I never understood why he didnt play the second set. He won the first one and then quit.

just my 2 cents

Martin Roberts
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Good.....and taking your post, perspective, and information to be 100% truth.....so what. Maybe he was tired, maybe he felt bad, maybe he got a bad feeling, or maybe he just didn't like the kid.....so, again taking everything you said to be truth without knowledge or question, so he made a mistake, did something out of character, or just plain old screwed up.....

We all make mistakes (again, not saying he did), but we have somebody with a lot of knowledge that is offering a contribution of sorts to the sport.....what is the value of replaying one of the possibly rare and dumb mistakes he might have made???? Hell, I don't want all my mistakes aired on here :D

The post was about his blog, and not Bruce, or this one event.....from an outsider and newb who hasn't met many or you nor lived that type of life, I enjoy stories like Grady's and Jay's and all those guys....no reason to run them off.....none of us are beyond reproach and we all have skeletons.....some people here probably have graveyards :D

It just doesn't seem appropriate or of value to steer the post in this manner, and I wouldn't want people doing it to one of my posts. Sometimes good people do bad things, I know I have.

With all due respect,

Jason
 
Logic

Logically you have to ask two questions.

1) What are the intentions of the thread highjacker?

2) What results does the tread highjacker hope to achieve?
 
To tell the truth, I really give two craps about how many people come forward and say they "saw this", and "saw that".

You know why?

Because Lil Jon was up gambling in Boston.. Left something like 10K on the lights while he was playing Tony Ruberto. He comes back, and it is gone. Tony "says" he didn't see anyone take it. NOONE ELSE in the room saw anyone take it. And there were probably 20-30 people sweating the match.

When there is an argument, local players almost ALWAYS side with their local champ. Even when it comes to theft, or if their guy fired an air barrel. Why? Because they still have to be at the same tournaments and halls as these "champs", and don't want to rock the boat.

Most pool hall denizens out there look at it like, if the road player didn't protect himself, then he deserved what he got.

So quit using the excuse "I was there, I saw it!", balah blah blah blah. It doesn't mean anything. Grady has a much better reputation than any ANONYMOUS person out there. Or any TEN ANONYMOUS PERSONS out there. Or any TWENTY ANONYMOUS PERSONS out there.

Now, you want someone to consider you might be telling the truth about Grady. Grab your ****ing nuts, man up, AND TELL US WHAT YOUR ****ING NAME IS. So we can tell whether you have any credibility.

For all we know, you all are a bunch of smack addicts who just like starting s**t.

Russ
 
Grady said:
Now there are two gentlemen saying that I agreed to play two sets. I don't know eother one of them and don't remember speaking to anybody except Bruce. I have, for more than 40 years honored every gambling thing I said I would do. Simply stated, again, I only agreed to play one set.
This is a classic case where it's often bad business to deal with mid-level backers. They often make mistakes and are prone to cause a person trouble.
Yes, I did call in a favor to collect my money. So what? Ok, I'm through with this. I really would like to focus on only positive things in my life.
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grady, with all due respect, publicly admitting "calling in a favor to collect my money" wasn't very smart. i would remove that comment before someone archives it for leverage in a legal suit against you. ;)

poolmouse
 
Russ Chewning said:
So quit using the excuse "I was there, I saw it!", balah blah blah blah. It doesn't mean anything. Grady has a much better reputation than any ANONYMOUS person out there. Or any TEN ANONYMOUS PERSONS out there. Or any TWENTY ANONYMOUS PERSONS out there.
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Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about Martin Roberts reputation ?

Dave
 
DaveK said:
Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about Martin Roberts reputation ?

Dave
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Never heard of him. Suprisingly enough, I don't know every single player in the U.S.

Is he willing to go on record as saying he saw this incident? If so, let him come on here and say so. That way, the established forum members from that area can say whether or not he is a trustworthy person.

The only way I would call someone out by name is if they made a statement about someone, and I had some information about their personal integrity.

If Martin saw it, let him come on here and say who he is, and what he saw. All this anonymous bulls**t just shows how cowardly all these people are.

Russ
 
poolmouse said:
grady, with all due respect, publicly admitting "calling in a favor to collect my money" wasn't very smart. i would remove that comment before someone archives it for leverage in a legal suit against you. ;)

poolmouse
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Oh PA leeze.. What? So Grady can go in front of the judge and tell him "Yes, your honor.. I asked a friend of mine to go and ASK the person for the money, since I thought that would take all the emotion out of the transaction. I thought it would be the most civil way to conduct business."

Grady has owned multiple businesses, and has dealt with the police and the courts before. I doubt anyone here could offer much advice that Grady doesn't already have a solution for. Good god, the man has gambled for what? 40 years? And never been to prison? I'm not sure he ever spent more than a few days in jail, either.

Grady knows how to take care of himself, don't you worry about that.

Russ
 
poolmouse said:
grady, with all due respect, publicly admitting "calling in a favor to collect my money" wasn't very smart. i would remove that comment before someone archives it for leverage in a legal suit against you. ;)

poolmouse
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i've called in favors to my lawyers to collect debt for me, Grady said nothing that could/would stick in the legal syatem that could be held against him, his choice of words was good, he never implied "strong arm" collections whitch could lead to troubles,

Whats in a favor? its just a favor.

i'm not picking sides and dont care at all, i just wanted to clairify that point.


>>>>>>>if this was my forum this thread would have long ago been deleted, it doesnt serve pool it makes it look dirty and that the last thing any of us need, Delete the whole thing.<<<<<<<<<<<<< now!!!! my 3 cents-adjusted for infaltion. thanks for reading my post.
 
Russ Chewning said:
Never heard of him. Suprisingly enough, I don't know every single player in the U.S.

Is he willing to go on record as saying he saw this incident? If so, let him come on here and say so. That way, the established forum members from that area can say whether or not he is a trustworthy person.

The only way I would call someone out by name is if they made a statement about someone, and I had some information about their personal integrity.

If Martin saw it, let him come on here and say who he is, and what he saw. All this anonymous bulls**t just shows how cowardly all these people are.

Russ
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Russ you really need to work on that reading comprehension problem of yours. I'll help by suggesting you re-read post # 107.

Dave
 
DaveK said:
Russ you really need to work on that reading comprehension problem of yours. I'll help by suggesting you re-read post # 107.

Dave
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Gotcha,

Just didn't see that he posted his name. I leave it up to the established posters from the area to vouch for the reputation of Mr. Roberts..

But I do have a question for Martin. If what he says is true, why on earth would Grady turn down the money for the first set, then "call in a favor" to collect? It didn't make sense when the first person said that, and it doesn't make sense now.

Perhaps Martin can clarify this for us?

Russ
 
geez guys read my last sentance in my post above 3-4 ago and give it a little thought, were all pool players and this is making a mokery of pool, action and feeds right into the hands of people who have a bad impression of pool. for the betterment of the image of pool, take the egos into a pm war. and i'm still not picking sides, i want no enimies, think about it thats all i ask gentalmen.

best

fatboy
 
Southpaw said:
And the last thing I really want is some "Shady Grady" phanatic stalking me....but you can let me know when you will be in Athens, GA. and see if you have the balls to call me a pussy to my face....

No wonder you and Grady get along so well. Instead of admitting you are wrong you want to try and strong arm someone, well that shit wont work with me! Bring your punk ass to Athens, GA and sayit to my face instead of hiding behind your keyboard. In other words, put your money where your Grady-pleaser is...unless you are just a chickenshit! I have said I would let this die, but you seem to want to keep it going. I will not be threatened or bullied by some hack that wasnt there and has absolutley nothing but speculation to go on.


Southpaw
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Chuck
 
Fatboy said:
i've called in favors to my lawyers to collect debt for me, Grady said nothing that could/would stick in the legal syatem that could be held against him, his choice of words was good, he never implied "strong arm" collections whitch could lead to troubles,

Whats in a favor? its just a favor.

i'm not picking sides and dont care at all, i just wanted to clairify that point.
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well said. however, if the person grady "called in" for the "favor" got physical, bragging about it on an open forum isn't very smart. it's no fun being brought up on charges.

poolmouse
 
Note to self: Cancel plan to gamble with Grady, lose, and then not pay, due to inference of "collections committee" :D :D :D
 
Russ Chewning said:
Gotcha,

Just didn't see that he posted his name. I leave it up to the established posters from the area to vouch for the reputation of Mr. Roberts..

But I do have a question for Martin. If what he says is true, why on earth would Grady turn down the money for the first set, then "call in a favor" to collect? It didn't make sense when the first person said that, and it doesn't make sense now.

Perhaps Martin can clarify this for us?

Russ
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I cannot clarify why he pulled up after the first set and did not accept the payment for the first set. It seemed silly to me at the time also, but my gut told me that he knew he couldnt win the second set and to save face he pulled up after the first set. I guess he figured they were going to break even anyway, so why continue. I think it was wrong of him to try to collect the bet later or as he put it "called for some help", which I did not know about until this thread.

I just feel from what I saw that day, that the game was not played the way it was discussed and any collection on that first set was plain wrong!!!!!!


Martin
 
The Blog

Grady,

I am looking forward to reading your blog. Good luck with it and have fun.

Mrs. Bushwhacker
 
I have a ton of respect for Grady, and it doesn't seem that he would give a sh*t about 500 bucks when he gambles for 50 times that sometimes, but I used to live in Athens, GA and and knew both Bruce and Martin a little bit and they both seemed like real solid guys to me.

As far as Bruce getting jacked on the road goes, people told me him and Stevie Moore made good money (10's of thousands) on the road. This was years ago and Bruce has won a bunch since then so I don't think its unreasonable at all that he might of got held up. He's a VERY laid back personality so this kind of trouble would bother a guy like him, maybe. All of the talented players in the South know him; he definately can play and he's known to gamble so I could see him becoming a target.
 
Look guys, it is pretty straight forward.

Southpaw, You started this mess and need to know I won't let this happen again.

The next time will be the last, since you have a penchant for stiring things up.

Everyone else on the language bandwagon, consider whether you feel strongly enough about your language to accept the warnings and possible ban before you hit enter.

I have stated many times before:

I do value the Professional players being here and will defend them from the warrantless attacks on thier personality every danmed time.

"Who is Southpaw", like you said, it doesn't matter.
I'll chose Grady, Blackjack....etc in that fight.....every time.

I'm not kidding people, I won't let someone drive these people off.

Don't leave me with no option other than removing you.


Sincerely,
Dave Wilson
 
I didnt start the name calling. I stated an incident that was 100% fact and it was confirmed by 4 other people who were there. Sorry if the truth hurts! And I dont have any problem not posting here anymore. So play God all you want to....its still 100% FACT!

Southpaw
 
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