classiccues said:
Really, just ask yourself or ask Sly if someone comes out saying "I've played with them all, and this cue plays better than a Sly hands down? What is he going to think? The problem as I said is in totality of the situation. I sell cues, you will hardly ever hear me say this cue plays better than that cue, even if it's my best friend making the cue.
Anyone who reads this that knows Dennis, is liable to step in. We all know what happened with the logo issue and King is haphazzardly leaving out a few details. No one is going crazy, maybe you should ponder the following.. you're building cues, you put a cactus on the joint, you get a letter from the attorney for South West asking you to stop, they have procured a legal remedy. So now a few months later you put out a 6 point hi low cue, do you think they aren't going to notice, or someone that knows the story isn't going to say something? Are you kidding me?
I don't know if there is any discussion on the two issues. Quickly resolved, with lawyers. How quick you think it was? Now factor in the joint, factor is the bias that King has thrown in and actually attached Sly's name by saying how little he thinks of Dennis, but yet finds the need to put his logo and his design features on the cue. If you're pro Sly, you won't be able to, or will refuse to, add it all up.
I didn't say Sly said anything. What Sly needs to do is put his dog on a leash, before his dog bites the wrong person.
JV
I hate carrying on the negative side of this thread, so this will probably be my last comments on the issue.
To the first part, everyone is entitled to his opinions. Someone thinks Sly's cues are the best. Great for him. Many think Dennis' cues are the best. Good for them. Who cares?
To the second part, you say everyone knows what happened. I don't know--the first and only information I have has come from this thread. I've tried to search, I've asked for links, nothing more has come forth.
To the third point, it's all just talking in circles. There's only two connections there--the logo then the joint. Other people--not Sly, mind you--gave some rah-rah comments comparing him to Searing, because of the similarity to the Searing joint. That's where it came from, not because Sly talks about Searing all the time.
I bought from Sly a cue with SW-style ringwork. If I had said "and I bet it hits better than a SW!" I'm sure many would disagree with me, but it would be my opinion, and not imply that Sly is suddenly trying to overtake SW in some way.
I've spoken with Sly on the phone on a few occasions, every call 30+ mins, and he's never once mentioned Dennis' name. The last time he even mentioned the half-joint cues and said he was going to make a batch of them because he likes the way they hit. But still, no mention of Searing.
I'm sure Sly, like any other cuemaker, has done cues that has drawn from the pioneering work of others, as well. This issue stems from the fact that he finally incorporates into his cue, something similar (not even the same) to the same cuemaker he had a logo issue with a while ago, and suddenly you guys are trying to....that's the thing I don't know what you're trying to do. Are you accusing Sly of a Searing fetish? Of what? You're publicly denouncing this guy over very flimsy stuff. I could see if every cue he made was a copy of Dennis', but he just decided to use a half-SS joint on a few cues and you're up in arms. It's very strange, to say the least. But like you said, you'll see things your way, I'll see things my way.
To the fourth point, I agree that sometimes less and more. I think King is a loyal friend and has done a lot in helping his friend's business, but I also think that he has gone too far on occasion. But then I also think some people have then done the same thing, and taken what he says a little too seriously, and gone too far in retaliating. Like I said at the beginning of this post--if he thinks Sly's cues are greater than Searing's...so what?
