Hard Times...

Hard Times Bellflower

Corey is correct. We opened it in 1988. I did the floor plan for Chuck and Mike Markulis. I wanted to put bleacher seating on both sides of the tourney arena, but there just wasn't room. We actually tried to buy the restaurant next door to expand, but they weren't selling.
It was made famous in two ways. First and foremost it became the site of the biggest and best poolroom tourneys ever held. Year after year we attracted world class fields to play there. We always scheduled in conjunction with the Reno events, so players could come out West for two good tourneys. Chuck and Mike were the probably the first poolroom owners to add 10K and more to a tournament (my apologies to Barry B. if he added more at the Q-Master for the early U.S. Opens).
With very tight Gold Crowns, decent prize money and a nice tourney set-up the players loved it. And Chuck loved the pool players, comping rooms and entry fees for the top players.
Some of the winners of those late 80's and early 90's events included Buddy Hall, Nick Varner, Earl, Jay Swanson, David Howard and Dennis Hatch. The final matches were always great with outstanding play on both sides. I always enjoyed handing the winner that envelope stuffed with hundreds.
The only top player who we never could get to play there was Mike Sigel. We tried everything but he would not come. First time I ever saw him play a match there was three weeks ago at the IPT qualifier.
Now the second thing that put Hard Times on the map was a full chapter in David McCumber's book, "Playing Off The Rail". He went on and on about all the action that was there and pretty soon every hustler alive was haunting the place. That went on for a few years until Mike and Chuck sold out in the late 90's. Everything died down after that, but Brook and Kenny have kept the place on the map with some well planned events.
There were many great money games there featuring Morro, Francisco, Efren, Tang, Ernesto, Bob Hunter, Earl, Stalev, Steve Knight, Rodney, John Schmidt and a host of others. So many players came thru there it would be impossible to recount all the games played during that time frame.
The glory years were 1988 to 1998, but Hard Times is alive and well.
 
Mike Sigel did play there to my recollection. I have a tape of him and Efren playing a set of banks, one pocket, and 9 ball. Mike throws in the towel at the end.
 
jay helfert said:
Some of the winners of those late 80's and early 90's events included Buddy Hall, Nick Varner, Earl, Jay Swanson, David Howard and Dennis Hatch.

While I worked there, Steve Mizerak also won one of the big ones. It was the best when there was Hard Times, The Bike, LA Open and then Reno.

Ernesto threw Johnny Archer an 11-0 shutout in one of those too! Ah.........the good ol' days.:cool:
 
When I 1st started playing pool in the mid 90's I would go to Hard Times on weekends to watch and could not believe my eyes. Stakehorses would come in with body guards and there were thousands bet every night. Keith and Incardonna for 10,, Ronnie Allen playing 2 guys at a time and every other shot Ronnie shot one handed and he left with 6,. It was amazing watching all of the action on every table. One time there was a 1 Hole match up for 40 that lasted 3 days. And to think this was not even the heyday of pool only that of Hard Times.
 
> What pool room was the Beat It video filmed in? I was told it was an earlier version of Hard Times. Tommy D.
 
jay helfert said:
Corey is correct. We opened it in 1988. I did the floor plan for Chuck and Mike Markulis. I wanted to put bleacher seating on both sides of the tourney arena, but there just wasn't room. We actually tried to buy the restaurant next door to expand, but they weren't selling.
It was made famous in two ways. First and foremost it became the site of the biggest and best poolroom tourneys ever held. Year after year we attracted world class fields to play there. We always scheduled in conjunction with the Reno events, so players could come out West for two good tourneys. Chuck and Mike were the probably the first poolroom owners to add 10K and more to a tournament (my apologies to Barry B. if he added more at the Q-Master for the early U.S. Opens).
With very tight Gold Crowns, decent prize money and a nice tourney set-up the players loved it. And Chuck loved the pool players, comping rooms and entry fees for the top players.
Some of the winners of those late 80's and early 90's events included Buddy Hall, Nick Varner, Earl, Jay Swanson, David Howard and Dennis Hatch. The final matches were always great with outstanding play on both sides. I always enjoyed handing the winner that envelope stuffed with hundreds.
The only top player who we never could get to play there was Mike Sigel. We tried everything but he would not come. First time I ever saw him play a match there was three weeks ago at the IPT qualifier.
Now the second thing that put Hard Times on the map was a full chapter in David McCumber's book, "Playing Off The Rail". He went on and on about all the action that was there and pretty soon every hustler alive was haunting the place. That went on for a few years until Mike and Chuck sold out in the late 90's. Everything died down after that, but Brook and Kenny have kept the place on the map with some well planned events.
There were many great money games there featuring Morro, Francisco, Efren, Tang, Ernesto, Bob Hunter, Earl, Stalev, Steve Knight, Rodney, John Schmidt and a host of others. So many players came thru there it would be impossible to recount all the games played during that time frame.
The glory years were 1988 to 1998, but Hard Times is alive and well.
Not one person yet has mention the onsite "Lil" Al Romero who does repair work and builds an awesome sneaky pete. I remember those days of 88-92 when I lived in Riverside and would make weekly trips to Hard Times for the USPPA handicap tournaments and the open tournaments as well. A gal named Sabrina Peterson did a great job of running the handicap tourneys (wonder if she still plays too). I sure miss thoses days too. Hard Times is still to this day my favorite room that I have every played in.
 
Kevin Lindstrom said:
Not one person yet has mention the onsite "Lil" Al Romero who does repair work and builds an awesome sneaky pete. I remember those days of 88-92 when I lived in Riverside and would make weekly trips to Hard Times for the USPPA handicap tournaments and the open tournaments as well. A gal named Sabrina Peterson did a great job of running the handicap tourneys (wonder if she still plays too). I sure miss thoses days too. Hard Times is still to this day my favorite room that I have every played in.

I met Sabrina Peterson once in Denver when she was in town for business. We played some pool and talked shop because she was working for an engineering company and I was about to graduate from an engineering school. Nice person and good player.

Cheers,
RC
 
To the original question, I always heard of Hard Times in connection with Efren. Some guy that used to be a regular there came through town a few years ago and told some really wild tales of the "Hard Times experience", which I will not repeat, but it sure sounded like a great place to hang out.

I always compared Cochran's Billiards to a Vegas casino; you lost track of time completely. You could literally spend an entire weekend in there, playing and gambling, eating and drinking, and not have a clue you'd been there that long; happened to me on many an occasion. Anybody know the record for someone staying in Cochran's the longest without leaving? I'm betting on Ronnie Allen or Denny Searces; those guys could get in some world-class marathons. What a place, and The Palace, right across Market Street, was just as good. Once in a lifetime experience.
 
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jnav447 said:
To the original question, I always heard of Hard Times in connection with Efren. Some guy that used to be a regular there came through town a few years ago and told some really wild tales of the "Hard Times experience", which I will not repeat, but it sure sounded like a great place to hang out.

I always compared Cochran's Billiards to a Vegas casino; you lost track of time completely. You could literally spend an entire weekend in there, playing and gambling, eating and drinking, and not have a clue you'd been there that long; happened to me on many an occasion. Anybody know the record for someone staying in Cochran's the longest without leaving? I'm betting on Ronnie Allen or Denny Searces; those guys could get in some world-class marathons. What a place, and The Palace, right across Market Street, was just as good. Once in a lifetime experience.

But my guess would be "One Eye Hank" (Hank Hurst). You may not have heard of him as he commited suicide in 1961 but he was my bud and he never had a place to live a lot of time so he would spend many nights camped out on the theater seats that surrounded the perimiter of the room. Another couple of candidates, Richie Florence, Walker Cochran Jr. himself, Paul Silva. Wow those were the days my friend.
 
Jimmy M. said:
The owners of Hard Times in Sacramento are the original owners of the Hard Times in Bellflower. They also owned another popular pool room where our very own Rude Dog hung out before Hard Times opened, I think... Varsity Billiards.

Varsity Billiards is also where the famed Neil Fujiwara of Predator Products (Pillage6) once was employed & slung coffee for the Markulis family like the rest of us.;)
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Varsity Billiards is also where the famed Neil Fujiwara of Predator Products (Pillage6) once was employed & slung coffee for the Markulis family like the rest of us.;)
NO WAY!!!
Neil HELD A JOB before Predator????:eek: :D
j/k
 
Hardtimes in Sacramento has been called that since 1998, when it took over the Great American Billiards room and upgraded the facilities.

I've been lucky enough to run tournaments there for the last few years.

Hardtimes Billiards is just one of the ventures the Markulis' have developed over the last 20+ years.

In the last 20 years, I would guess that the Markulis family has added more than $750,000 to $1,000,000 in prize money in their weekly, monthly and yearly events.

This summer another Jamboree with $5000 added One Pocket and $10,000 added 9 Ball, June 13th thru Jun 18th.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Varsity Billiards is also where the famed Neil Fujiwara of Predator Products (Pillage6) once was employed & slung coffee for the Markulis family like the rest of us.;)

And boy could he sling a cup of coffee! ;)
 
jay helfert said:
The glory years were 1988 to 1998, but Hard Times is alive and well.
Jay, what was the name of that all-night action joint south of L.A. that everyone went to in the late 60's (1960's...:) )? Seems to me there was a cardroom/casino nearby.

Thanks~ Doc
 
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Hard Times is only good, when there is a tourney in town, that brings out the big boys. When there not there, its a bunch of crittlers lagging balls around on the big bertha.

Mack
 
gulfportdoc said:
Jay, what was the name of that all-night action joint south of L.A. that everyone went to in the late 60's (1960's...:) )? Seems to me there was a cardroom/casino nearby.

Thanks~ Doc

Are you thinking of Bob's Billiards??
 
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