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Is it possible to harden laminated soft tips? I have some soft moori's and I was considering trying one on a carom shaft. But since they are soft I thought they would mushroom to much with the heavier carom balls.
Dan
 
quedup said:
Is it possible to harden laminated soft tips? I have some soft moori's and I was considering trying one on a carom shaft. But since they are soft I thought they would mushroom to much with the heavier carom balls.
Dan

Dan, compression is the best way to make the tip harder. Place it in a vise, tighten the vise by hand and then take a rubber mallet tighten it a half turn further. Leave it the in the vise for 24 hrs, and then tap another half turn. Leave it again for another 24 hrs and try to get another half turn by tapping it. Then leave it for 48 hrs and then remove it for use. I use this same method for Elk Master tips to make them harder and it works works very well, I have also used it for other layered tips with no problem.
 
manwon said:
Dan, compression is the best way to make the tip harder. Place it in a vise, tighten the vise by hand and then take a rubber mallet tighten it a half turn further. Leave it the in the vise for 24 hrs, and then tap another half turn. Leave it again for another 24 hrs and try to get another half turn by tapping it. Then leave it for 48 hrs and then remove it for use. I use this same method for Elk Master tips to make them harder and it works works very well, I have also used it for other layered tips with no problem.

I USE THIS METHOD ON SOME OF THE TIPS I DO AS WELL......... BUT, I TRIED IT WITH 3 MOORI SLOWS THAT I HAD, AND 2 OUT OF 3 DELAMINATED DURING SHAPING. NOT SURE IF IT WAS JUST MY BATCH, OR IF THE COMPRESSION SOMEHOW EFFECTS THE LAMINATIONS.......I'D SELL THE SLOW'S AND JUST BUY SOME HARDER TIPS.
 
manwon said:
Dan, compression is the best way to make the tip harder. Place it in a vise, tighten the vise by hand and then take a rubber mallet tighten it a half turn further. Leave it the in the vise for 24 hrs, and then tap another half turn. Leave it again for another 24 hrs and try to get another half turn by tapping it. Then leave it for 48 hrs and then remove it for use. I use this same method for Elk Master tips to make them harder and it works works very well, I have also used it for other layered tips with no problem.

When you are done, what hardness do you think you have achieved? What tip do you use for a customer that wants a SOFT tip?...JER
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
When you are done, what hardness do you think you have achieved? What tip do you use for a customer that wants a SOFT tip?...JER

It depends upon the tip I am compressing, as far as the hardness acheived that's easy to figure out. I have a Type C Durometer, and I test the tips before and after compression. Along these same lines, I have found something interesting lately, all the Le Pro tips I have been getting have been harder than Triangles. The boxes of Le Pro's have been testing out at or above the 90's on the scale which is hard, and many of the Triangles are testing out from the Mid-70's to the Mid-80's.

I suspect that they have changed something with how they are making the Le Pro tips.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I USE THIS METHOD ON SOME OF THE TIPS I DO AS WELL......... BUT, I TRIED IT WITH 3 MOORI SLOWS THAT I HAD, AND 2 OUT OF 3 DELAMINATED DURING SHAPING. NOT SURE IF IT WAS JUST MY BATCH, OR IF THE COMPRESSION SOMEHOW EFFECTS THE LAMINATIONS.......I'D SELL THE SLOW'S AND JUST BUY SOME HARDER TIPS.

I have never had that problem Marcus, so I don't know!!:smile:

Take Care
 
BLACKHEARTCUES said:
When you are done, what hardness do you think you have achieved? What tip do you use for a customer that wants a SOFT tip?...JER

When u go thru above procedure what u get is a tip which would feel like medium and give action like a soft.
I really like these kind of tips, very very nice.Most of the phillpino players use this technique and play with elkmaster or blue diamond compressed tips.

Not to mention these tips are extremely cheap and come at fraction of a cost of the layered tips but give excellent results.

IMO these tips should be put by hand and not on lathe and should be filed and shaped manually
 
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Monto P2 said:
IMO these tips should be put by hand and not on lathe and should be filed and shaped manually

I don't want to start a war but you are the first person I have ever heard say that.:confused:

I don't know how you can face a ferrule or cut the tip to size to fit the ferrule properly without a lathe . You could shape a tip without a lathe but I don't think it would be done by hand as perfectly.

Got me confused,
 
Arnot Wadsworth said:
I don't want to start a war but you are the first person I have ever heard say that.:confused:

I don't know how you can face a ferrule or cut the tip to size to fit the ferrule properly without a lathe . You could shape a tip without a lathe but I don't think it would be done by hand as perfectly.

Got me confused,

I come from a snooker background and all snooker player put their tip themselves and shape perfect.These tips are very easy to shape.all u need is glue and sand paper:thumbup:
 
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Monto P2 said:
I come from a snooker background and all snooker player put their tip themselves and shape perfect.These tips are very easy to shape.all u need is glue and sand paper:thumbup:
I used to do that 25 yrs ago on snooker cues,what we always did was cut them off a house cue,they were already pressed so to speak,shape sides,sandpaper top,perfect,now i use a lathe,the tips were always elk master on snooker cues as far as i know
 
I think blud talked about soaking triangle tips in paint thinner i think think pressing them and heat them up with a torch for a few seconds made great break tips from what i heard just do a search its been covered alot.

Craig
 
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