Help Identify This Cue!

[Chopdoc]

Doc what is a butted veneer.

To me the forearm is a short splice that had been milled.

It is explained in this thread. The veneer stack can be mitered, or it can be butted.

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Thread 'I'd like a little help identifying a cue please'

Jun 17, 2025

I'm hoping someone here can shed some light on the maker of this cue TIA

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[manwon]

I can't find any Helmsetter or Adam with a butt sleeve like this also can't even get close to the rings and the shafts all have original ivory ferrules.

As for the butt not a wooden plug but some kind of epoxy fill.

I must have missed the part about the Ivory rings and ferrule sorry. In this cases it’s definitely not a Helmstetter or Adam cue.

Good luck hope you can identify it.

 

[Chopdoc]

Sent you a pm. I cant post pics on azb.

Pics:

 

[HawaiianEye]

I must have missed the part about the Ivory rings and ferrule sorry. In this cases it’s definitely not a Helmstetter or Adam cue.

Good luck hope you can identify it.

FWIW, Richard Helmstetter had ivory at his factory in Iruma, Japan back in the early 80s, but I never saw it in any of his cues.

I lived in Japan then and had a Richard Black custom that had a cracked ivory ferrule, so I called Richard to arrange a repair. He told me not to ship it back and to take it to Helmstetter and he gave me his phone number. I called him and he gave me directions to the Adam factory and I went there, met him, and had a tour while a new ivory ferrule was put on my Richard Black shaft.

He offered to front me dozens of cues to sell on the military bases, but not many military people were that into pool.

I wish I had bought a dozen and kept them. He was giving them to me at almost the cost of building them.

 

[manwon]

FWIW, Richard Helmstetter had ivory at his factory in Iruma, Japan back in the early 80s, but I never saw it in any of his cues.

I lived in Japan then and had a Richard Black custom that had a cracked ivory ferrule, so I called Richard to arrange a repair. He told me not to ship it back and to take it to Helmstetter and he gave me his phone number. I called him and he gave me directions to the Adam factory and I went there, met him, and had a tour while a new ivory ferrule was put on my Richard Black shaft.

He offered to front me dozens of cues to sell on the military bases, but not many military people were that into pool.

I wish I had bought a dozen and kept them. He was giving them to me at almost the cost of building them.

Yeah, you certainly made a big mistake my friend. Those cues were well built with beautiful designs, unfortunately after Richard left the factory went to hell in a hand basket. Like you said it was almost like giving them away at the prices he offered them to you. I have a number of the them in my collection, unfortunately all cues except for my playing cue are in temperature control storage along will all my guns. You, also luck to have met Richard, over the past 20 years he has been hermit. I guess that happens when one gets famous.

Thanks for your comments and that wonderful story.

 

[HawaiianEye]

Yeah, you certainly made a big mistake my friend. Those cues were well built with beautiful designs, unfortunately after Richard left the factory went to hell in a hand basket. Like you said it was almost like giving them away at the prices he offered them to you. I have a number of the them in my collection, unfortunately all cues except for my playing cue are in temperature control storage along will all my guns. You, also luck to have met Richard, over the past 20 years he has been hermit. I guess that happens when one gets famous.

Thanks for your comments and that wonderful story.

He passed away last year.

Callaway visionary Dick Helmstetter combined science and innovation to lead club-making revolution

Dick Helmstetter, who died in Califorrnia at 82, had a curiosity and inventiness that pushed golf club design and making to new levels

www.golfdigest.com