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I was taking 1800mg Gabentin/day and i was only drowsy the first 2-3 days. I recently quit it with no withdrawal to speak of and the pain didnt get any worse.

Just about everyone i ever knew who had back surgery had to have more surgery. How many has Jeanette had 7?

You know this statement couldn't be any more true.

Isn't it crazy with all the technology doctors have at their disposal the back is like outer space to them.

Sorry for your troubles.
 
Billy if i were you i would have a complete check up of that whole area that is bothering you,just maybe something didnt heal rite,and the best would be that your body just needs some more time to heal,u know when u get older bill things just are not as they used to be,in every part of life!I and i bet many many more here at AZ is hopeing for you to be pain free!
 
As most know I had back surgery on Feb. 7th. and seemed to be doing well until about 10 weeks after surgery, that's when I started to get a lot of pain in my hips. I wasn't able to walk without struggling and lifting my legs at any time put me in quite a bit of pain. My surgery was a fusion with L-4 AND L-5 plus my doctor shaved bone spurs from my spine that was giving me pain on the right side of my back, prior to surgery.

Today I am having pain on the right side of my back at the same place as before surgery, plus my hips are constantly in pain. My doctor prescribed a medication called Gabapentin a drug that is prescribed for epileptics. It also is for neuropathic pain.

I'm posting this because i'm really scared about how the surgery turned out, and would like to hear someone who either has had a similar result or know someone who has.

What's happening to me?

Billy Incardona


I dont know, like I told you I was very certain that you would come out much better than me, i'm just over 3 years post op and still getting better, I had 5 operations first one was May 06, for 3 solid years I didnt improve 8%-in other words nothing, then poof one day Billy Chips(Ray) came to visit and I noticed my back was better, I went off the pills 90% the next week and been somewhat better ever since.

time is your friend, things move around in there, my toes go numb sometimes, the past 3-4 weeks have been the worst in years and you can bet i'm scared. But 10 weeks aint shit, thats like playing pool for 10 weeks and saying "Why cant I win a set playing Alex sometimes?" it just takes more time, the stuff moving around could be causing you ancellery pain. About a year ago I noticed my hip socket on my left side hurt like hell when I'd get in and out of ANY car, it was getting worse and worse, after 6-8 months it disappeared 100%.

My point is your fresh out of sugery, things are moving, the docs can only see whats on the images and that dosent show the whole picture of whats happening. When they have you opened up, and as you know I was there watching them do operations, because I wanted to see what happened to me and how it all fit together, they cant tell then either-its a bloody mess. There is a set of procedures they follow, they look for certain things and install the implant(artificial disc or fusion) its basically the same operation with a different implant. There is no possible way to answer your question here.


Go to the doc, get new images taken, see if the implant moved(pray it didnt) and call me 702-241-8000. I have lived like this in hell for 6+ years. I went to Hardtimes yesterday, to see friends etc. I watched half of a race to 9 and efren play one hell of a game of chess. Is there anything he cant do? Tang Hoa was nice enough to let me use his chair to sweat the chess game, I came home and been in bed the past 24 hours. thats my life. I pray yours gets better


your friend

Eric
 
http://www.betaklinik.de/index.php

these are the best guys in the world, they set the standard by which all others are measured and travel the world teaching the Docs here what to do.


A large % of their biz is repair work from bad operations here in America. the Docs here are so scared of lawyers they are more interested in covering their ass than fixing your back. Its not that expensive either.


there is a message board I need to find I will PM you a link to, it will be very helpful, the guy who owns it takes 2-30 clients/year to Germany for back operations. Most people want thier hand held and thats what he does-he puts his clients with the best docs there are. I didnt hire him, I figured it all out on my own. but he is worth talking to. check your PM's later I wil need a bit of time to find his board, I cant remeber the name of it rite now, he is worth calling, he lives here in LA. he knows me-


but like I said your 10 weeks out-thats nothing, but it does merit new images to see if something moved, and also see if its centered. I have seen so many botched jobs comming over to Germany from america where they didnt even have the implant centered. Just sloppy work. And the reality of it all is its not that complicated, hell I watched operation after operation the single hardest part is getting to the spine when they go through the front. Going through the back is a hanger.
 
here:

http://www.globalpatientnetwork.com/index.shtml


he completely changed his site, it had a message board, call Mark, tell him eric Petersen the guy with the Rolls Royce who fell asleep in your front yard referred you(I'll explaine that later). But call him, tell him about me and he will talk to you.

my Doc is on the link he is at the bottom with the red neck tie on, Willem Zeegers is his name. He is the #1 back surgeon in the world according to his peers, not patients. everyone says their doc is the best, thats horse shit, its who the docs think is the best is what matters. They all think I'm buddy hall on the barbox at the tattoo shop I got to, they are clueless. Mark only works with the best of the best, I met Mark through my doc.


best

eric


here I just found his message board:


http://www.ispine.org/forum/


I'll let you buy dinner next time I see you. :D or we can play some 18-4 ;)
 
Thanks to everyone that replied I will try your suggestions about the MRI and possibly the quinine. Hopefully I will be able to get through this so I can play a little longer and do more commentary.

Back pain is a b--ch :(

Billy I.

Billy, I'm so sorry to hear about your discomfort. I'd be glad to forward you a copy of my CD - HypnoRelief - gratis. Could be one other tool to help manage your pain. Just IM me if you're interested. A description of the CD can be reviewed @ www.lawrencekincade.com
Take care and get well soon!
Ed
 
sent a PM

Billy,

I sent you a private message. Not time to worry too much yet. They often inject a long acting steroid in you when they do a surgery. You feel better until the shot wears off regardless of the status after the surgery. This is about the time that shot starts wearing off and you still have a long ways to go in healing and recovery.

Hu
 
I recently (12/10) had a spinal fusion surgery, L4-5. One of five surgeries I've had in the last 18 months. Two discs had completely disintegrated leaving three vertebra bone on bone, with the middle vertebrae moving into the spinal canal pinching the cord. It was like that for several years before surgery causing major sciatic pain. Surgery fixed the sciatic pain, thank God, but that's a big nerve. There's lots of little nerves that were also impacted by the moved vertebrae that may or may not heal. Apparently the sciatic pain masked lots of other stuff. I still have constant back pain, numbness in the right leg, knee to toes, toes on both legs curling involuntarily and numbness in toes on both feet, frequent leg cramps, severe burning sensations through the left hip...and it's all aggravated by standing, walking, or sitting longer than 30-45 minutes. According to my Doc and Physical Therapist, pool is good for me! I'm just hoping time will help, as I hope it will for you. There's a lot going on in the nervous system that is hard/impossible to predict, diagnose and treat, so most treatment is directed at symptom relief. Best advise is to get the best doctor available, trust him, and talk to him a lot....it really comes down to the person you're working with and their skill and knowledge, and then you following through on your end.
 
I'm sure some will ridicule what I am about to say, but have you considered acupuncture. A good friend of mine had back surgery and was prescribed narcotics for pain relief. He did not like the idea of having to rely on opiates to function. Long story short.....acupuncture worked miracles for him. He was a complete skeptic and this was a last resort for him.

Can't hurt to try it if all else fails........Dan

Acupuncture only works if the nerves haven't been permanently damaged.
 
Got to toughen up

Once again thanks to everyone that replied and I am really grateful for everyones input which has given me a better understanding of where I am and what to expect. When I first posted this thread I was hoping to get the answer to my problem, and I have. I guess I just jumped the gun and panicked, but the healing process has just begun for me and I thought it should be over. I have been in pain for over three years prior to surgery, so I can deal with more pain knowing that one day i'll be somewhat better.

Eric Peterson sent me a link to Global Patient Network where a picture of three doctors were on the cover. He said the doctor with the red tie on was his doctor and was voted by his peers as the best surgeon in the world. The picture of the doctor next to him is my doctor Steven Hockshuler, cofounder of the Texas Back Institute here in Dalls, and also a top orthopedic surgeon. So I guess i'm in good hands and should follow his advice, unless the fellow with the red tie differs.:grin-square:

Thanks again to everyone.

Billy Incardona
 
Once again thanks to everyone that replied and I am really grateful for everyones input which has given me a better understanding of where I am and what to expect. When I first posted this thread I was hoping to get the answer to my problem, and I have. I guess I just jumped the gun and panicked, but the healing process has just begun for me and I thought it should be over. I have been in pain for over three years prior to surgery, so I can deal with more pain knowing that one day i'll be somewhat better.

Eric Peterson sent me a link to Global Patient Network where a picture of three doctors were on the cover. He said the doctor with the red tie on was his doctor and was voted by his peers as the best surgeon in the world. The picture of the doctor next to him is my doctor Steven Hockshuler, cofounder of the Texas Back Institute here in Dalls, and also a top orthopedic surgeon. So I guess i'm in good hands and should follow his advice, unless the fellow with the red tie differs.:grin-square:

Thanks again to everyone.

Billy Incardona

The Doctor with the red tie gives your doc 1 stitch on the wire going to 10 lol. Sounds like you are in good hands. Do exactly what he says...you can fade it. Be a treat to see you back in the box again playing one-hole. The Best. John
 
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