Here It Is The SILVER GINACUE

kvinbrwr said:
Lyn

In typical Ernie style, back in the day when he used to cart The Silver Gina around to tournaments to pitch himself, he'd yank it out and break and play with it. Here's what he was breaking with when we first started playing (until he finally succumbed to my begging and stopped):

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Kevin
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You had to go and do that! Show me another incredible piece of artwork. Really appreciate your reply. A break cue? Really?

Lyn
 
It is a great cue.

I assume that Ernie at one time did make spliced cues instead of the inlayed point cues that I have seen. Really disappointed that he would take this shortcut.

I know he has made a ton of Titlist cues, often offered as rare, but hardly rare. But did he ever make his own splices?

Thanks for the posting.

Ken
 
Ken_4fun said:
It is a great cue.

I assume that Ernie at one time did make spliced cues instead of the inlayed point cues that I have seen. Really disappointed that he would take this shortcut.

I know he has made a ton of Titlist cues, often offered as rare, but hardly rare.

Thanks for the posting.

Ken
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Ken

Ernie never spliced a cue. Either did Tad for that matter. Maybe its a West Coast thing.

Thanks

Kevin
 
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Ken_4fun said:
Kevin - Are you serious or jerking my chain?

Neither did Martin.

Ken
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Ken

Sure I'm serious. I think Ernie bought a total of 3 grosses of Titlist arms in his career, rejected about 20% of them and had maybe 20 of them remaining when I met him. He bought 12 Spain blanks, used them for the Rat Pack Cues, and had 6 of them left when I got to him. 3 I sold as-is, 3 he built into cues that he sold to me. One of the blanks I sold went back to Ernie and he made a cue out of it.

Other than a few conversions of Titlists over the years, that's the extent of spliced cues that came out of the Gina shop. None spliced by Ernie.

Tad also never spliced a cue himself. Tad used Titlist arms, and Katz blanks and made some Titlist conversions also.

Kevin
 
cardiac kid said:
You had to go and do that! Show me another incredible piece of artwork. Really appreciate your reply. A break cue? Really?

Lyn
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Lynn

You are quite welcome.

The ivory made it heavy. Ernie was one of (if not the first) guy to core cues and I think this big ivory monster was pre-core (mid 1960s). So it was heavy by modern standards and yeah that was his break cue.

I was in Hollywood Billiards with him a few years ago and he had it resting against a table while we played, and drunk guys were all bumping into things around it and I BEGGED him to stop using it. He refurbished it, double date signed it, and I tried to sell it here pretty cheap (relatively) for awhile with no success. That's a pretty early inlaid-point shaft.

Kevin
 
Ken_4fun said:
Kevin

ANY Production cuemaker will make you a 1 of 1. Just call them, (JOSS, SCHON, whoever).

Surely you dont want to compare Ernie to Gus or George do you? Really?
The CNC inlayed points of a Ginacue (new ones) really are a take away for me and most cue buyers that I know.

I loved playing with a Gina cue. I got it new, (I didnt order it), and it played great "out of the box", meaning I didnt have to change a thing including tips.

I can appreciate someone saying nice things about a cuemaker because they are somebodys friend or know them, but come on.

As far as the Kersenbrock deal, I never owned one, never talked to the guy, but the list of cuemakers that are using the EXACT same pin or one so damn close its basically the same pin is a long list. Are they using the same pin type that Martin used, no, not even close. Are there a long list of cuemakers using a pin similar to the Martin pin? No.

Obviously Tad was greatly influenced by Martin, but IMO, Martin would never use the inlays and work that has made Tad famous.

I stand by my original group.

Rocky Balboa, I mean Rambow
George
Gus
Kersenbrock

One other thing, and I dont know who has the picture of the show where the MASTERS of CUEMAKERS, it had Tad, Ernie, Stroud, Schick, and another(cant remember now) all in one shot. Little help here guys, I think it was at a show.

Best of rolls,
Ken
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The other guy was Richard Black, another great HOF cuemaker.
 
cornerstone said:
the golden bushka does not hold a candle to this
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Yeah its funny, it not always "work" or precision or even quality that drives collectibles. The Golden Bushka was plain by comparison, but so rare for George and sold at the height of George's collectibilty.

The Unfinished Gus was, well, unfinished.

Kevin
 
kvinbrwr said:
Ken

Sure I'm serious. I think Ernie bought a total of 3 grosses of Titlist arms in his career, rejected about 20% of them and had maybe 20 of them remaining when I met him. He bought 12 Spain blanks, used them for the Rat Pack Cues, and had 6 of them left when I got to him. 3 I sold as-is, 3 he built into cues that he sold to me. One of the blanks I sold went back to Ernie and he made a cue out of it.

Other than a few conversions of Titlists over the years, that's the extent of spliced cues that came out of the Gina shop. None spliced by Ernie.

Tad also never spliced a cue himself. Tad used Titlist arms, and Katz blanks and made some Titlist conversions also.

Kevin
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And just 1 more a bit more recently.....:)

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=274060

Joe
 
Its amazingly well done. I assume you have these type things in all endeavors such as music for instance, the Stradavarius violin for example. I dont know much about the man, but i did get to hit a few balls with one of his cues years ago owned by a friend of mine here in town. If i remember right he said he paid something like $2500 for it and that was quite a while ago, im assuming he bought it in the 70s more or less, not sure.
 
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