How do the following earn a living - today?

Roy Steffensen said:
I am never gonna get married!!!!!! :D

I'm never getting married either...oh, wait, in November I will have been married 40 years. :eek:

Okay, I'm never getting married again!
 
Not Exactly

selftaut said:
Dallas West has had Dallas West Billiards for as long as I can remember.

He has owned or been associated with 6 pool rooms in the area since I was a kid. The 2nd and 4th incarnations had chances for him to make a living but I don't believe that lasted for very long.

He is currently partnered with one of his son's at Dallas's State & Madison for the past 3 years. I would say that business is very sloooowwww.

He is known for giving lessons and maybe that has helped through the years. Some of his past students include Tom Karabotsos, Mike Bandy and Lanny Charles. I believe Tom K has also used him as a "house pro" at a couple of his rooms in the Chicagoland area.
 
I think we need these kinds of threads a few times a year for the younger crowd. For most that play pool it's only a game. For some others it's a way to get into action on something their good at. But unless your the coming of the new SVB...keep your day job if you want to make good money and have that nice car and house with the White picket fence. Johnnyt
 
tigerseye said:
I know he and Davenport have opened a room in Georgia
Johnny has done well=)

They bought the Marietta Billiard Club. It was already open. I don't think they have made a whole lot of changes, either, from what little I've heard.
 
Fatboy said:

IMMUNE!!!! You, Fatboy, Eric, the non-speller, spelled IMMUNE!! :groucho:

Plunk the magic twanger Froggie!!!

Edit: oops! double post.
 
No Future - re-post edited

Pete Margo once said (There is no future in this game)Pete was fortunate, he saw opportunity, took it, and did well for himself. Not your typical players ending in life. Of the millions of players worldwide maybe a few squeak out a living. For the best of the best yearly earnings equal just about LUNCH MONEY in todays society. Unfortunate for such a wonderful game and the talent it takes to play at a high level. I would love to see the day where players (Not a few players but many) can afford to pay a mortgage, two cars,vacations, bills, support a few kids, clothing,.soccer,baseball, hockey,dance school, art school health insurance.etc.etc.etc. I don't see that day coming too soon.
You don't see Tiger Woods networking on a website offering lessons. You don't see Derek Jeter putting his own roof on his house. Even the less talented in their sports do very well for themselves.

I respect all for trying to bring pool to a different level. For every one good person there are a hundred scuzzballs, Do THE MATH and look at past history.

If it takes Jeanette Lee and Jennifer Barreta having sex on a pool table, with Jasmines pic in the background on a Harley while Earl is watching, holding his Cue in his hand, barking and doing some very weird stuff..SO BE IT. It's 2008

If it takes sex to sell then sell it.If it can put the game of pool where it belongs with all other sports,,,sell it. If it can pack a stadium with 50,000 people, nationally televised,,,,SELL IT. All the venues are small time, always have been compared to other sports.
I agree that pool and should be recognized for what it is,, it hasn't happened. Bless the players from past to present for playing a game they love for little or no reward.
History has proven there is no future in pool, and as of present there is still No Future in Pool.
 
Corey,
Although Robin Dodson does have here own line of cues and such, I think most of her time is spent being the manager of her singer/actor son Drake Bell of Nickelodeon's "Drake and Josh". Her husband, Roy runs the cue business. Both Robin and Roy are about as nice as they come I might add.
 
Another take...

JoeyA said:
Unfortunately, I don't believe this.

When a person's productivity and usefulness are reduced, so are the benefactor's generosity.

Many people give their youth to companies that reward them after a life time of service with a thank you and a good by as new people stand at the helm of the company, with new agendas, goals and responsibilities to fulfill.

JoeyA
Joey...
I would tend to agree with you but there is a big mitigating factor here....Culture.
My feeling is that the culture in the Philippines is very different that here in "Western Culture". Theirs is a culture that respects the "wisdom and accomplishments of elders". I think Efren is set for life. One way or another, they will find a way to take care of him if he does not have the where with all to take care of himself. The man is a god.
Tommy
 
how about snooker?

I heard that the really good snooker players make alot of money. Is this true?
Maybe we should start promoting snooker here in America and try to challenge the snooker players in England in the future. Just a thought
 
marlinhunter said:
I heard that the really good snooker players make alot of money. Is this true?
Maybe we should start promoting snooker here in America and try to challenge the snooker players in England in the future. Just a thought
Most pro snooker players who were big in the 80's and 90's like, Steve Davis are multi millionaires. There are a few like Alex Higgins that have found a way to lose it all just the same as here.
From what I hear the Snooker scene isn't what it was Embassy pulling their sponsorship hurt. It would be hard to replicate what snooker had, it had characters and lots of them.
 
SmoothStroke...To echo what you said about Pete...Pete Margo made a fortune in the video rental business (definitely got in and out at the right time). As far as no future in pool, I'd have to agree, for the most part. There is a LOT of money to be made in the entertainment/teaching end. The problem is that most of the people, who could take advantage of that opportunity, either have no brains (i.e.: "trickshots or teaching are for those who can't play" :rolleyes: ) or no personality. As far as making a living competing, you're dead on, imo.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

SmoothStroke said:
Pete Margo once said (There is no future in this game)Pete was fortunate, he saw opportunity, took it, and did well for himself. Not your typical players ending in life.

History has proven there is no future in pool, and as of present there is still No Future in Pool.
 
It seems to me that where there is a problem there is an opportunity and that is where there is money to be made. If the pros can't make a living in their later years then changes are needed.

Some creative person (or group) will come along and make inovations that will lead to something new. There are far too many people interested in pool. However, something is wrong with the current model for how to play the game. It is not a matter of restoring what never worked all that well anyway, it is more a matter of a new way that probably will use some new ideas.

Perhaps its speed pool, perhaps the twister. It will be something that grabs many people and not necessarily the usual suspects.
 
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edit. looks like some-one posted this right before me, although I think it's on Disney and not Nick.

Robin Dodson's son is a pretty big star on a Disney show called Drake and Josh. I think she'll be set for money from that (although it's technically her son's money).
 
JoeW said:
It seems to me that where there is a problem there is an opportunity and that is where there is money to be made. If the pros can't make a living in their later years then changes are needed.

Some creative person (or group) will come along and make inovations that will lead to something new. There are far too many people interested in pool. However, something is wrong with the current model for how to play the game. It is not a matter of restoring what never worked all that well anyway, it is more a matter of a new way that probably will use some new ideas.

Perhaps its speed pool, perhaps the twister. It will be something that grabs many people and not necessarily the usual suspects.

I sure like your attitude Joe. I feel the same way. It is disheartening to hear so many "voices of doom" re; the future of pool.
I admit things are not the greatest right now, (in more than just the pool world) but hand wringing, and whining about it,will never change anything.
I am well past my prime too, and I'm fortunate that I don't have to rely on my SS and RPPF (Retired Poolplayer's Pension Fund) to stay afloat.
I will continue do do what I can in the way of supporting the game, and encourage any of the younger crowd, TAR, Video streamers, BFDLAD and others who are doing the best they can to generate interest and promote this game we all love. Someone will come up with a workable formula someday, There are too many out there trying, for all of them to come up empty.
My personal thoughts lean towards creating a competition among cities, (or regions) as in all other sports, where "Joe six pack" can pull for his local team or player. I believe we have a very big, respected name (in pool) working on just that concept now. Lets hope it takes off.

Dick

P.S. A "Color of Money II" (with maybe a "Mosconi Cup theme) wouldn't hurt right now either :)
 
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JoeyA said:
Unfortunately, I don't believe this.

When a person's productivity and usefulness are reduced, so are the benefactor's generosity.

Many people give their youth to companies that reward them after a life time of service with a thank you and a good by as new people stand at the helm of the company, with new agendas, goals and responsibilities to fulfill.

JoeyA

Though I think in Efren's case, at least in the Philipines, his endorsement will be of value as long as he lives.
 
JoeW said:
It seems to me that where there is a problem there is an opportunity and that is where there is money to be made. If the pros can't make a living in their later years then changes are needed.

Some creative person (or group) will come along and make inovations that will lead to something new. There are far too many people interested in pool. However, something is wrong with the current model for how to play the game. It is not a matter of restoring what never worked all that well anyway, it is more a matter of a new way that probably will use some new ideas.

Perhaps its speed pool, perhaps the twister. It will be something that grabs many people and not necessarily the usual suspects.

I think you're right, the old model didn't really work and certainly wouldn't today. A different model is needed. However, there is still the possibility that pool as a professional sport is beyond help.
Let us hope the solution is not speed pool. :eek:
 
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