How Do We Aim?

Simple- IF your stroke is straight, and you can follow through the CB on a straight line, all you have to do, is choose the line that will make the ball... Most shots are missed from poor fundamentals, we know how to make the balls already, imagine your line and keep your cue on it. Subconscious rules this game! Focus on keeping your cue straight and level on the line you chose and make your Final stroke "Feel" exactly like your pre-strokes, exactly! Same length in the backstroke, same speed, force, etc. So, from here, as long as you follow through straight and level down the line you chose, stay down, trust yourself, and stick your follow through, you will make more balls. Just find your line and trust it, make a good stroke, and if your line is off a little, it won't take long to correct it.
 
cotbluhnded said:
Simple- IF your stroke is straight, and you can follow through the CB on a straight line, all you have to do, is choose the line that will make the ball... Most shots are missed from poor fundamentals, we know how to make the balls already, imagine your line and keep your cue on it. Subconscious rules this game! Focus on keeping your cue straight and level on the line you chose and make your Final stroke "Feel" exactly like your pre-strokes, exactly! Same length in the backstroke, same speed, force, etc. So, from here, as long as you follow through straight and level down the line you chose, stay down, trust yourself, and stick your follow through, you will make more balls. Just find your line and trust it, make a good stroke, and if your line is off a little, it won't take long to correct it.
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Very well choosen words :-) !!

No matter how *you aim*, and no matter which *system* or which *subconcsiously made thoughts/moves* you do/use: Without a repeatable straight stroke nothing will work! The next part is self-belief, which comes through repetition! And simplified: What you SEE is what you GET. Let your eyes lead you- with good fundamentals, this will help a lot.
Oh, table-time could be helpful, too :grin:
 
Actually the stroke only has to be straight at contact.... I don't really care if it comes in straight or on an arc but at contact it has to be on the shot line... McCreedy and many others have shown this to be true for decades now....

You can preach pendulum and fundamentals all day long but if a player cannot feel and control the tip at impact regardless of where it started from they are lacking in talent for the game....

You may improve them a ball or 2 with correct fundamentals and a repeatable pendulum stroke but without the feel/talent of knowing where the tip is at all times and controlling it... :( the best you can hope for is a high level of passion that might get them to B level.........
 
cotbluhnded:
Simple- IF your stroke is straight, and you can follow through the CB on a straight line, all you have to do, is choose the line that will make the ball.
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LOL. That's all there is to it, huh?

And conversely, if you've already chosen the line that will make the ball, all you have to do is have perfect fundamentals.

This game is too easy!

pj
chgo
 
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100% correct Mr Renfro..........

The Renfro said:
Actually the stroke only has to be straight at contact.... I don't really care if it comes in straight or on an arc but at contact it has to be on the shot line... McCreedy and many others have shown this to be true for decades now....

You can preach pendulum and fundamentals all day long but if a player cannot feel and control the tip at impact regardless of where it started from they are lacking in talent for the game....

You may improve them a ball or 2 with correct fundamentals and a repeatable pendulum stroke but without the feel/talent of knowing where the tip is at all times and controlling it... :( the best you can hope for is a high level of passion that might get them to B level.........
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Stroking a cue is like throwing a spear.

If you go through the motion of throwing a spear you never really look at the spear. You focus on the object you are trying to hit. The biggest challenge throwing a spear though is eye hand coordination because the spear is off to the side of our vision.

Strokng a cue is like throwing a spear except we can get the eyes exactly Perfect over the cue and our target, the object ball.

The only time we really need to look at the cue or the cue ball is to make sure we are hitting it in the correct spot. It has nothing to really do with the aim. We point the cue, but we certainly don't aim with it.

The dominant eye decides where everything is. Stroke,stance and body.

You are spot on again Mr Renfro..........
 
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genomachino said:
Stroking a cue is like throwing a spear.

If you go through the motion of throwing a spear you never really look at the spear. You focus on the object you are trying to hit. The biggest challenge throwing a spear though is eye hand coordination because the spear is off to the side of our vision.

Strokng a cue is like throwing a spear except we can get the eyes exactly Perfect over the cue and our target, the object ball.

The only time we really need to look at the cue or the cue ball is to make sure we are hitting it in the correct spot. It has nothing to really do with the aim. We point the cue, but we certainly don't aim with it.

The dominant eye decides where everything is. Stroke,stance and body.

You are spot on again Mr Renfro..........
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Geno does my dominate eye cause me shoot almost under the center of my chin?I understand this theory if we we're shooting a gun.
I think everyone is different.I always try to tell people its not your dominate eye ,its where you see the straight line.Also with ME this line may tend to move because of distance.This dominant eye stuff your always preaching may be good for some but its no even close to the truth with my eyes.And I cant change it.Im not trying to knock what you teach ,its just not way my eyes see it..
 
Did we do a phone lesson?

8pack said:
Geno does my dominate eye cause me shoot almost under the center of my chin?I understand this theory if we we're shooting a gun.
I think everyone is different.I always try to tell people its not your dominate eye ,its where you see the straight line.Also with ME this line may tend to move because of distance.This dominant eye stuff your always preaching may be good for some but its no even close to the truth with my eyes.And I cant change it.Im not trying to knock what you teach ,its just not way my eyes see it..
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Where you see the straight line is when your dominate eye is in the dominant position. I teach players how to find this and keep it right on all shots.

I just gave 24 Perfect Aim lessons in Minot, ND. 24 lessons and 24 homeruns. This does work for everyone if you know how and what your looking for.

Call me sometime. 715-563-8712. I'll make you a total believer in 15 minutes. Or I should say you will make yourself a believer because you will be able to see it and understand it with your own eyes.
 
genomachino said:
Where you see the straight line is when your dominate eye is in the dominant position.
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I like to call a person's ideal head position the "vision center" instead. The phrase "dominant eye" can be misleading here because a person's dominant eye might not be directly related to the person's "vision center" position. For example, some people might best visualize the line of a shot (and center-ball tip position) with their chin centered directly over the cue (i.e., with the cue in between both eyes) regardless of which eye is "dominant" or not.

Drills that can be used to help a person find their own personal "vision center" can be found here:

Regards,
Dave
 
Just the opposite...........

dr_dave said:
I like to call a person's ideal head position the "vision center" instead. The phrase "dominant eye" can be misleading here because a person's dominant eye might not be directly related to the person's "vision center" position. For example, some people might best visualize the line of a shot (and center-ball tip position) with their chin centered directly over the cue (i.e., with the cue in between both eyes) regardless of which eye is "dominant" or not.

Drills that can be used to help a person find their own personal "vision center" can be found here:

Regards,
Dave
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There is only one correct position for the eyes to be in the vision center to see the shot Perfectly.

Telling a player anything else is misleading.
 
genomachino said:
There is only one correct position for the eyes to be in the vision center to see the shot Perfectly.

Telling a player anything else is misleading.
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Well, there are quite a few things you write about that I find misleading also. Like the first sentence in your reply above.

And then this statement "The dominant eye decides where everything is. Stroke,stance and body."

Nothing could be farther from the truth. What really determines how you address a shot is how the balls are placed on the table.

To imply , which your statements do, that how the balls are laid out on the table has no affect on how to place your bridge, how you can or, in some cases, can not place your body at the table and so on.

Of course, my favorite shot to bring up when these type of statements is made is the behind the back shot. I saw Bustemante do this twice in one game this past weekend.

The reason he did this was because the of how the balls were laid out on the table. What was really cool to see was that there was no difference in his stroke when stroking behind his back.

The infomercials that you and others do in this forum and other forums is really getting out of control and just plain bad taste.

Of course you will make the type of statements you do because they are more for marketing that providing factual information about real life shot making.
 
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genomachino said:
dr_dave said:
I like to call a person's ideal head position the "vision center" instead. The phrase "dominant eye" can be misleading here because a person's dominant eye might not be directly related to the person's "vision center" position. For example, some people might best visualize the line of a shot (and center-ball tip position) with their chin centered directly over the cue (i.e., with the cue in between both eyes) regardless of which eye is "dominant" or not.

Drills that can be used to help a person find their own personal "vision center" can be found here:
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There is only one correct position for the eyes to be in the vision center to see the shot Perfectly.
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Agree. This correct position is the vision center position, which is unique to each individual. And the "vision center" might or might not be aligned with the person's "dominant eye."

genomachino said:
Telling a player anything else is misleading.
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Agreed.

Regards,
Dave
 
duckie said:
Well, there are quite a few things you write about that I find misleading also. Like the first sentence in your reply above.

And then this statement "The dominant eye decides where everything is. Stroke,stance and body."

Nothing could be farther from the truth. What really determines how you address a shot is how the balls are placed on the table.

To imply , which your statements do, that how the balls are laid out on the table has no affect on how to place your bridge, how you can or, in some cases, can not place your body at the table and so on.

Of course, my favorite shot to bring up when these type of statements is made is the behind the back shot. I saw Bustemante do this twice in one game this past weekend.

The reason he did this was because the of how the balls were laid out on the table. What was really cool to see was that there was no difference in his stroke when stroking behind his back.

The infomercials that you and others do in this forum and other forums is really getting out of control and just plain bad taste.

Of course you will make the type of statements you do because they are more for marketing that providing factual information about real life shot making.
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This is how I see it also.
 
genomachino said:
Where you see the straight line is when your dominate eye is in the dominant position. I teach players how to find this and keep it right on all shots.

I just gave 24 Perfect Aim lessons in Minot, ND. 24 lessons and 24 homeruns. This does work for everyone if you know how and what your looking for.

Call me sometime. 715-563-8712. I'll make you a total believer in 15 minutes. Or I should say you will make yourself a believer because you will be able to see it and understand it with your own eyes.
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Gene thanks but no thanks, you're a good guy and its nice to hear you're helping a lot of people.You or no one in this world could change how i feel about the dominate eye.;)
 
duckie said:
Well, there are quite a few things you write about that I find misleading also. Like the first sentence in your reply above.

And then this statement "The dominant eye decides where everything is. Stroke,stance and body."

Nothing could be farther from the truth. What really determines how you address a shot is how the balls are placed on the table.

To imply , which your statements do, that how the balls are laid out on the table has no affect on how to place your bridge, how you can or, in some cases, can not place your body at the table and so on.

Of course, my favorite shot to bring up when these type of statements is made is the behind the back shot. I saw Bustemante do this twice in one game this past weekend.

The reason he did this was because the of how the balls were laid out on the table. What was really cool to see was that there was no difference in his stroke when stroking behind his back.

The infomercials that you and others do in this forum and other forums is really getting out of control and just plain bad taste.

Of course you will make the type of statements you do because they are more for marketing that providing factual information about real life shot making.
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So how were his eyes lined up differently than on a regular shot?
 
dr_dave said:
Agree. This correct position is the vision center position, which is unique to each individual. And the "vision center" might or might not be aligned with the person's "dominant eye."

Agreed.

Regards,
Dave
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dr dave seems to enjoy being critical of instructors teaching techniques and information on here. I was wondering if he has any himself other than the peace sign and some shooting drills?
 
champ2107 said:
dr dave seems to enjoy being critical of instructors teaching techniques and information on here. I was wondering if he has any himself other than the peace sign and some shooting drills?
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I think Dave wants readers to have the most accurate information available.

You either don't know the difference or care more about attacking your "enemies". Your misrepresentation of what Dave "has" is proof enough that you don't know what you're saying (or don't care if it's obviously wrong).

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I think Dave wants readers to have the most accurate information available.

You either don't know the difference or care more about attacking your "enemies". Your misrepresentation of what Dave "has" is proof enough that you don't know what you're saying (or don't care if it's obviously wrong).

pj
chgo
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Right PJ, believe what you want, give the enemy stuff a rest already.Yes you are right i know nothing about anything
 
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im am serious i know shit! you are 100% right, 100% of the time about 100% of the topics you discuss! How i was able to figure out cte/pro1 was an astonishing achievement considering a guy like you could not make it past chapter 1
 
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