How Do You Run Out Here? (2)
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Skill, imagination an luck are all important parts of nineball. Shoot 5 ball into end rail bouncing off making 6ball having low left on whitey drawing out between side pockets shaping 6 ball in lefthand head of table leaving break-out shot on 7-8. Boy am I good????????? before I get 50,000 challenges that was a joke.
Pinocchio
Skill, imagination an luck are all important parts of nineball. Shoot 5 ball into end rail bouncing off making 6ball having low left on whitey drawing out between side pockets shaping 6 ball in lefthand head of table leaving break-out shot on 7-8. Boy am I good????????? before I get 50,000 challenges that was a joke.
Pinocchio
Don't laugh...this is my first time with cuetable :smile:
5 in the corner first, then second shot 6, and...if the 7/8 doesn't break out the way you want you probably have a nice safety.
5 in the corner first, then second shot 6, and...if the 7/8 doesn't break out the way you want you probably have a nice safety.
Nice suggesitons. Thanks. My inclination here would be to tap in the five and play the six in a way that I can break the seven-eight cluster by coming under the seven (meaning having the cue ball hit the long rail and then the top rail before hitting the seven. To me, that attacks the cluster in a way nearly sure to leave a shot on the seven. Still, several ways to skin this cat, and if you can break the cluster as you pocket the five, you always get out here. It just isn't very easy to do so.
why try to run out here? just get above the 7 and play safe forcing your opponent to do a long 1 rail or 3 rail kick. If he beats you from there good luck beating him in the rest of the set. If you really must run out, get on the shor rail near the 6 and stun out to the 7-8 making sure to hit the 7 and not the 8, but thats rediculously dangerous.
Masayoshi said:
If I were going to play safe, I would go with this. Easier to execute and the kind of thing that breaks people.
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That safe is kinda what I thought I would do. I guess you could take a flyer to try to break out the 7-8, and if you miss, still have a reasonable safe.Black-Balled said:
Mike
I would try to break it out right there with some outside english. If you manage to break it out, you have the six hanging to use for position for the seven. If you wait until the six you might not break it out, and even if you do you might not have a shot. To be honest since I'm a banger I'd probably wind up playing safe off the seven but I would try to break it out right there.
Not saying it isn't possible but I'd love to see someone shoot the 5 and break out the 7/8.
Shooting the 6 and bringing the CB two-rails in that Z shape (colorodo's example) is great when it works but I think that lends itself to hooking you on the 7 too often.
I think making the 5 and getting the CB to about where it is now, then shooting the 6 with a bit of draw/right to run it into the 7/8 seems like the best option to me. And if you miss it you should be able to duck pretty easy.
Shooting the 6 and bringing the CB two-rails in that Z shape (colorodo's example) is great when it works but I think that lends itself to hooking you on the 7 too often.
I think making the 5 and getting the CB to about where it is now, then shooting the 6 with a bit of draw/right to run it into the 7/8 seems like the best option to me. And if you miss it you should be able to duck pretty easy.
I know the bank goes if you hit it real sweet, but I have my doubts as to whether the cueball could be made to follow that path. Ridiculous shot, but I couldn't resist drawing it up. :shrug:
I would set up a fairly steep angle on the 5ball and try to go one rail into the 7 and 8. If you hit either ball, they will separate, and you have to get a shot on the 6. If you don't hit either ball, play safe off the 7. The breakout on the 7 and 8 is high percentage enough to for, and carries almost no risk.
Edit: For some reason, I thought this was a BIH scenario. That makes my above statement completely invalid. That being said, in THIS situation, I would bank the 7ball 2 rails at the 9! Wheeee!
Edit: For some reason, I thought this was a BIH scenario. That makes my above statement completely invalid. That being said, in THIS situation, I would bank the 7ball 2 rails at the 9! Wheeee!
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I guess if you're dumb enough to try to break it out with the 5 instead of the 6. I'd go rail first with the 5 and hit it hard as hell.
I would have to have a good look at the angle on the 5. It looks like I could draw the cueball three rails and come down into the 7/8. Granted the c/b would have little speed after coming off the third rail. However not much is needed to separate the balls.If I miss the breakout I can always play safe.
If the angle is not there shooting the 5 then I would use the 6 like SJM suggested. One could come straight down table using the 5 with a little low and inside english if you knew the shot existed. Its a tough one but its there.
Rod
If the angle is not there shooting the 5 then I would use the 6 like SJM suggested. One could come straight down table using the 5 with a little low and inside english if you knew the shot existed. Its a tough one but its there.
Rod
Drew said:
Not to argue, but why is it dumb to break it out with the five? You have the six to use for position on the seven. If you break it out with the six you have to shoot the seven next and you don't know what kind of a shot you will wind up with. The breakout shot using the five is a shot that comes up a lot in 14.1, the only difference is you are going the length of the table instead of breaking open balls in the rack area but the angle is the same. Not an easy shot but by no means impossible for a decent player.
alstl said:
Couple things...the 5 is really straight in. Trying to break out the 7/8 would require hitting pretty hard, using a lot of spin, or a combination of both. You could miss the 5 trying to do that. The 6 provides a good shot that you will not miss (and is also a fairly common 14.1 shot). If you miss the break out, you have a multitude of safety shots to choose from. If you go one rail directly into the 7, you have a pretty good chance of getting a nice shot since the 7 and the CB are moving in opposite directions. Lastly, suppose you manage to make the 5 and get the breakout. You're likely to be sitting on the rail, jacked up over the 7/8 or you might even get hooked. I don't like that.
Yeah! You know that this is the type of shot that messes with people's heads!B4IFURU18 said:
FTR: If I were going for the out I'd go at the cluster using the 6. Hitting it hard too, I will not be hidden from the 7 by that Black-Ball.
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