How do you use J/Ps? Whats your procedure?

skierlawyer

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Do you prefer to put your J/Ps in your pocket or in your cue case when you are shooting? I go back and forth.

First, you should know I use a top loading case (wave case) with the joints up.

My procedure is I take my playing shaft out and lay it on the table, then my butt and lay on the table, next I remove my J/Ps and screw them together to make a large "pill" then I put it in my pocket or case, then I screw my cue together. When I'm done playing I take my cue apart and place the butt and shaft on the table and fish out my J/Ps.

Another procedure I try is I unscrew my J/Ps with the cue in the case, then remove the cue and put it together. When done playing I unscrew the cue, put it back in the case then screw on the J/Ps. This works well, especially if you can't pull your cue out and set it down (like you are joining a table already in action). When I do this I feel like, why am I bothering? The J/Ps are only on the cue while the cue is in the case so what are they really protecting?

Before I used J/Ps I just grabbed my cue out of my case and put it together. Life used to be so simple.

I'm thinking about going back to not using J/Ps.
 
I used to screw em together and put em back in the case. Now I just leave em apart on the table and don't give a shit!
 
Wow...you must be bored!

Do you prefer to put your J/Ps in your pocket or in your cue case when you are shooting? I go back and forth.

First, you should know I use a top loading case (wave case) with the joints up.

My procedure is I take my playing shaft out and lay it on the table, then my butt and lay on the table, next I remove my J/Ps and screw them together to make a large "pill" then I put it in my pocket or case, then I screw my cue together. When I'm done playing I take my cue apart and place the butt and shaft on the table and fish out my J/Ps.

Another procedure I try is I unscrew my J/Ps with the cue in the case, then remove the cue and put it together. When done playing I unscrew the cue, put it back in the case then screw on the J/Ps. This works well, especially if you can't pull your cue out and set it down (like you are joining a table already in action). When I do this I feel like, why am I bothering? The J/Ps are only on the cue while the cue is in the case so what are they really protecting?

Before I used J/Ps I just grabbed my cue out of my case and put it together. Life used to be so simple.

I'm thinking about going back to not using J/Ps.

Screw them together and see if there are any "Rump Rangers" in the room...they will have place you can store them...Just Kidding :yikes:
 
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J/P on; J/P off...
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Seriously, since I have Alton caps mine are off and in the top pocket of my case.

Gerry S
 
Too complicated.....:wink:

Thank gawd I don't have J/Ps. :grin:


Actually I want them...just haven't got them. I want a set matched to my JOSS with a personal touch. Got the price quote...but it has to wait...
 
Do you prefer to put your J/Ps in your pocket or in your cue case when you are shooting? I go back and forth.

First, you should know I use a top loading case (wave case) with the joints up.

My procedure is I take my playing shaft out and lay it on the table, then my butt and lay on the table, next I remove my J/Ps and screw them together to make a large "pill" then I put it in my pocket or case, then I screw my cue together. When I'm done playing I take my cue apart and place the butt and shaft on the table and fish out my J/Ps.

Another procedure I try is I unscrew my J/Ps with the cue in the case, then remove the cue and put it together. When done playing I unscrew the cue, put it back in the case then screw on the J/Ps. This works well, especially if you can't pull your cue out and set it down (like you are joining a table already in action). When I do this I feel like, why am I bothering? The J/Ps are only on the cue while the cue is in the case so what are they really protecting?

Before I used J/Ps I just grabbed my cue out of my case and put it together. Life used to be so simple.

I'm thinking about going back to not using J/Ps.

skierlawyer:

The point of joint protectors is to protect the pin, the receiving hole in the shaft, and your case (yes, your case -- against damage from the pin should the case take some kind of sudden movement to cause the cue butts to shift forward).

I have a Sterling Wave case as well (a 4x8), and even though one does not "technically" need JPs with John Barton's cases, I use them anyway:

1. One of the reasons why is just habit -- I've *always* used joint protectors my entire playing existence. If you come up with a routine that you don't even think about (as I do), having JPs integrated into that routine is a good fail-safe. When you have a routine you don't even think about, you're not saving any time by suddenly deciding to get rid of JPs.

2. My favorite pin is the Radial pin, and these have extremely sharp threads -- sharp enough that if they should ever snag on the cloth/spongy interiors of JB's cases, they will cut or cause damage. Especially if the case falls over -- which is the same motion, btw, that John shows in his "Sterling Wave How-To" video where he "shakes" the contents such that they rise for easy extraction. That is, a sharp shake of the case causes the butts and shafts to rise upwards (due to the organic rebound interior) -- this action is magnified with the force of the case falling over. The sharp/pointed pin on the butt will make a nice dent in the case's lid.

3. JPs keep the joints clean, obviously. Especially in a case with a cloth or cloth-like interior -- the "pills" that build up on the cloth won't get into the joint or joint holes if there's a JP installed. This is especially important if you have any cues with a Uni-Loc style joint (as I do on my break cue -- an M.G. Orange Crusher). Quick release joints -- especially Uni-Loc branded -- are prone to something called "thread lock" where the joint locks-down so tightly, you'll have a very difficult time getting the cue apart when you need to break the cue down. "Thread lock" occurs when there's dirt or grime in the threads of the pin and receiving hole -- even a little bit. A little thing like one of the "pills" from the cloth interior or a little bit of chalk dust will cause the threads to lock together, and the first time that happens, you'll kick yourself and WISH you used joint protectors!

4. JPs, in general, help you remove the cue from the case -- especially a shaft that has fallen deep into its receiving cavity where you can't reach it with your fingertips. (Although that can be argued with the Sterling Wave case, as the organic rebound interior helps you remove the contents no matter what.)

As to my "routine" with JPs, I pull out just the shaft [with its JP still installed], leaving the butt and its JP still in the case. Next, I unscrew the JP from both the shaft and the butt, screw the two parts of the JP together, and put the JP assembly in my pocket. Finally, I screw the shaft down onto the butt, lifting the butt slightly once the first couple of threads "catch" so that I can get my hand just behind the joint on the butt, to give assistance to fully screw the shaft down. Then, I just pull the fully assembled cue out of the case. (I actually had to think about how I do this, because it's so "force of habit" -- which is the idea, btw. I do this so quickly, that I can match the speed of other folks assembling their cues that don't use JPs at all. But I have the benefit of JPs "built into" my routine!)

I hope this helps,
-Sean
 
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First, you should know I use a top loading case (wave case) with the joints up.

When I do this I feel like, why am I bothering? The J/Ps are only on the cue while the cue is in the case so what are they really protecting?

If you had junk cases like I do you would see more value in protecting the joint while it was in a case!

I screw them together and stick them in the pocket of my under-protective case :)
 
skierlawyer:

The point of joint protectors is to protect the pin, the receiving hole in the shaft, and your case (yes, your case -- against damage from the pin should the case take some kind of sudden movement to cause the cue butts to shift forward).

I have a Sterling Wave case as well (a 4x8), and even though one does not "technically" need JPs with John Barton's cases, I use them anyway:

1. One of the reasons why is just habit -- I've *always* used joint protectors my entire playing existence. If you come up with a routine that you don't even think about (as I do), having JPs integrated into that routine is a good fail-safe. When you have a routine you don't even think about, you're not saving any time by suddenly deciding to get rid of JPs.

2. My favorite pin is the Radial pin, and these have extremely sharp threads -- sharp enough that if they should ever snag on the cloth/spongy interiors of JB's cases, they will cut or cause damage. Especially if the case falls over -- which is the same motion, btw, that John shows in his "Sterling Wave How-To" video where he "shakes" the contents such that they rise for easy extraction. That is, a sharp shake of the case causes the butts and shafts to rise upwards (due to the organic rebound interior) -- this action is magnified with the force of the case falling over. The sharp/pointed pin on the butt will make a nice dent in the case's lid.

3. JPs keep the joints clean, obviously. Especially in a case with a cloth or cloth-like interior -- the "pills" that build up on the cloth won't get into the joint or joint holes if there's a JP installed. This is especially important if you have any cues with a Uni-Loc style joint (as I do on my break cue -- an M.G. Orange Crusher). Quick release joints -- especially Uni-Loc branded -- are prone to something called "thread lock" where the joint locks-down so tightly, you'll have a very difficult time getting the cue apart when you need to break the cue down. "Thread lock" occurs when there's dirt or grime in the threads of the pin and receiving hole -- even a little bit. A little thing like one of the "pills" from the cloth interior or a little bit of chalk dust will cause the threads to lock together, and the first time that happens, you'll kick yourself and WISH you used joint protectors!

4. JPs, in general, help you remove the cue from the case -- especially a shaft that has fallen deep into its receiving cavity where you can't reach it with your fingertips. (Although that can be argued with the Sterling Wave case, as the organic rebound interior helps you remove the contents no matter what.)

As to my "routine" with JPs, I pull out just the shaft [with its JP still installed], leaving the butt and its JP still in the case. Next, I unscrew the JP from both the shaft and the butt, screw the two parts of the JP together, and put the JP assembly in my pocket. Finally, I screw the shaft down onto the butt, lifting the butt slightly once the first couple of threads "catch" so that I can get my hand just behind the joint on the butt, to give assistance to fully screw the shaft down. Then, I just pull the fully assembled cue out of the case. (I actually had to think about how I do this, because it's so "force of habit" -- which is the idea, btw. I do this so quickly, that I can match the speed of other folks assembling their cues that don't use JPs at all. But I have the benefit of JPs "built into" my routine!)

I hope this helps,
-Sean

Nice...I'm thinking you just out did the op...lol, an yep I'm bored too..I will say I find my j/ps in my pocket alot..or on my night stand...or the mentle..or the entertament center...but since I quit drinking, their back where they belong...
 
Nu B No Doubt

Seriously, LMAO. If your meticulous routine extends over into your pool game, I am impressed.
 
Too complicated.....:wink:

Thank gawd I don't have J/Ps. :grin:


Actually I want them...just haven't got them. I want a set matched to my JOSS with a personal touch. Got the price quote...but it has to wait...

No you don't. You think you do but you don't.

If your going to use them you want to cheapest POS you can find. ;)

Between misplacing them, them 'walking off', getting dropped on the floor etc. Nothing more than plain black plastic cheapos for me. The nice ones are for the cues I keep in the display cases.
 
Oh yea,

I just screw them together and drop them down a tube.

Sounds odd maybe but then I dump them out into my hand afterwards and at the same time any debris that may by in my case. Little peice of mind thing I guess.
 
I first joined this forum many years ago because I thought it offered tons of information and advice for learning the game, places to play, and in general connection with others around the world.

Now I've been enlightened to the fact that there is a very seriously thought out process available when it comes to removing your cues from the case, removing the joint protectors, and what to do with them while playing.

dave
 
I wear a hat pretty much any time I walk out of my house, except when I'm playing pool. When I get to the pool room, first thing I do is wash my hands. Then I grab a rack of balls and a table. I set my case down, then I empty everything out of my pockets except my wallet. I take the contents of my pockets and put them all underneath my hat (most places that serve alcohol will not like to see a 6 inch folding Smith and Wesson tactical knife sitting on the counter). I open my case, and take out my playing cue first. I take off the joint protectors, and set them underneath my hat with the rest of my stuff. I repeat that process with my break cue. Then I rack the balls, or set up a drill, and start playing.
 
I'd never be able to play with them in my pocket. I can't stand having anything but maybe a few coins in either of my front pockets while playing. I wear cargo shorts a lot, and it doesn't really bother me having something in a cargo pocket while I'm playing though, as long as it's not something heavy that will swing around while I'm walking.
 
I prefer to put my P/Js on starting with the right leg. They due a great job of protecting the pin... which is radial:wink:

As far as removal; I let my girlfriend handle that.

During action, I tend to leave them in a heap on the floor...
 
I used to lay butt and shaft down on the table or hold them in one hand then take jps off. But it's kinda risky as the butt and shaft might slip out of my hand and fall onto the ground so I prefer to have j/ps off when the butt and shaft still in the case.
 
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