How does Cory get shapes on this shot?

holy crap

i aint one to question someone like cory but that sure seems like a risky/showy way to do it.

beautifully done though i will say that
 
Ok, that's wonderful but I'm not able to understand where and how he hit the cue ball to do that.. can anyone tell how can I try to simulate that for training?

Thanks.
 
Nobody would ever guess that...If they did..they watched the clip first.

If you watch Cory, his body language changed after that shot...He seemed to almost look impressed with himself... as well he should.
 
mfoolb said:
Ok, that's wonderful but I'm not able to understand where and how he hit the cue ball to do that.. can anyone tell how can I try to simulate that for training?

Thanks.
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My guess is a bit of top and a whole bunch of left english.
 
BRKNRUN said:
Nobody would ever guess that...If they did..they watched the clip first.

If you watch Cory, his body language changed after that shot...He seemed to almost look impressed with himself... as well he should.
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Actually I did guess that shot before watching the video.

That type of reverse English shot come up occasionally in 3 cushion. I know that shot, although I can not execute the way Cory did. :)

Steve
 
That's funny. I was just watching this video earlier today (before seeing this thread) and that was definitely a memorable shot! I was a little surprised when I saw the cueball come off at that angle after the second rail!
 
I remember long ago erman bullard did that shot on me once.. but the way corey did it with such control and speed in match when he did have other options shows something :)
 
mfoolb said:
Ok, that's wonderful but I'm not able to understand where and how he hit the cue ball to do that.. can anyone tell how can I try to simulate that for training?

Thanks.
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Stun (or thereabouts, depending on the cut angle) with lots of left sidespin.

It's not all that tough if you've practiced it a little. With that cut angle it might even be easier than following 3 rails with left.

I would have drawn it centerball between the 6 and the rail. It looks natural with not much chance of scratching in the side.

pj
chgo
 
BRKNRUN said:
My guess is a bit of top and a whole bunch of left english.
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Corey uses LOW LEFT (INSIDE)

The cue ball contacts the object ball, goes to the rail with a ton of left, comes across the table to the OPPOSITE NON-CONNECTING RAIL - the english reverses itself and the cue ball gets spit to the right.

The cue ball will spin left going forward, but it will spin to right coming off of that second rail.
 
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I wasnt fond of the draw shot between the 6 and the rail because i dont like shooting that shot at that angle off or even really near the rail although I might've had to do it too.

There wasnt an angle to get a 3 rail follow shape.. You might barely miss the corner but it wont come down between the 6 and the 10 with the angle he had.
 
Blackjack said:
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Corey uses LOW LEFT (INSIDE)

The cue ball contacts the object ball, goes to the rail with a tone of left, comes across the table to the OPPOSITE NON-CONNECTING RAIL - the english reverses itself and the cue ball gets spit to the right.

The cue ball will spin left going forward, but it will spin to right coming off of that second rail.
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Well...no wonder I can never pull that shot off....I have always used a touch of top and inside (or left in the case of this shot)

Interesting...If I tried it with low there I would draw the CB into the side pocket..or kill the momentum of the CB into the first side rail.......there must me more angle than appears, and or he is not really stroking the draw part of the shot only the english.


I am gonna have to play around tonight..
 
BRKNRUN said:
Well...no wonder I can never pull that shot off....I have always used a touch of top and inside (or left in the case of this shot)

Interesting...If I tried it with low there I would draw the CB into the side pocket..or kill the momentum of the CB into the first side rail.......there must me more angle than appears, and or he is not really stroking the draw part of the shot only the english.


I am gonna have to play around tonight..
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You are correct. This is why Patrick stated it is like a "stun" shot with low left english. The low english transfers into follow coming off the rail and the left turns to right coming off the second.

Like shooting a ball close to the corner pocket. If you hit it with extreme follow, the cue ball will do a dipsy-do and stay on the end rail. Low english will allow it to come back down table if that is the desired position.
 
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BRKNRUN said:
Well...no wonder I can never pull that shot off....I have always used a touch of top and inside (or left in the case of this shot)

Interesting...If I tried it with low there I would draw the CB into the side pocket..or kill the momentum of the CB into the first side rail.......there must me more angle than appears, and or he is not really stroking the draw part of the shot only the english.


I am gonna have to play around tonight..
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lol...

if you go back and read my post, I never said he used draw

:p

I said he used low left (inside) - play around with and let me know how it goes.
 
Corey uses LOW LEFT (INSIDE)
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You're right that he hits it low, but not quite as extreme as you show (6:30). In order to get that much left I'd guess he has to hit it more like 7:30 or so. I thought he was lined up with a greater cut angle, which would work with even less low.

The cue ball will spin left going forward, but it will spin to right coming off of that second rail.
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I'm assuming you mean the CB will rebound to the left off the first rail and to the right off the second rail. The spin doesn't change, of course.

pj
chgo
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I'm assuming you mean the CB will rebound to the left off the first rail and to the right off the second rail. The spin doesn't change, of course.

pj
chgo
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Exactly.

As far as "where he hits the cue ball" - not sure myself, it looks to be between 6:30 and 7:00, hard to tell because the camera is on the opposite side of where he hits it - it is definitely LOW INSIDE.
 
... Patrick stated it is like a "stun" shot with low left english.
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Wouldn't a "stun shot with low left english" be a draw shot? I meant a stun shot with centerball left, but I think Blackjack's right that the cut angle in the video needs low english to get the CB moving downtable before it hits the first rail - otherwise the CB will hit the second rail going uptable and the spin won't have enough effect.

pj
chgo
 
Blackjack:
As far as "where he hits the cue ball" - not sure myself, it looks to be between 6:30 and 7:00, hard to tell because the camera is on the opposite side of where he hits it - it is definitely LOW INSIDE.
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I can't tell by looking - I'm going by what the CB does. Definitely low, lots of inside and pretty hard.

pj
chgo
 
That's just a sick shot. You don't get the desired spin and so many bad things happen there. I'm glad I have a day job.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
That's just a sick shot. You don't get the desired spin and so many bad things happen there. I'm glad I have a day job.
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Also, I don't think the shot will work well on two-month-old cloth -- too much "take" on the first cushion.
 
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