How good is my wood?

snipershot

snipershot

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I love the look of the knots in this forearm, but will they affect the quality of the wood? I cored it with purple heart, but im still afraid it will move where the knots are. I hope it stays straight, because it looks pretty damn cool.

Joe
 

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snipershot said:
I love the look of the knots in this forearm, but will they affect the quality of the wood? I cored it with purple heart, but im still afraid it will move where the knots are. I hope it stays straight, because it looks pretty damn cool.

Joe
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I would absolutely core that piece. I wouldn't worry about the knots coming out or causing any problems but with them circling the forearm as they are I would worry about the cue breaking in that area with any abuse. Core with a straight grain core and don't give it another thought. If you are worried about it holding up just send it to me and in a few years I'll let you know the outcome.

Dick
 
With a ph core I would worry more about the world ending in Dec. Than I would about the wood moving.

Larry
 
snipershot said:
I love the look of the knots in this forearm, but will they affect the quality of the wood? I cored it with purple heart, but im still afraid it will move where the knots are. I hope it stays straight, because it looks pretty damn cool.

Joe
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Do you really like the way knots look or are you trying to convince yourself you do? The public perception of knots is negative. Put on a shaft with a knot in it and see what they say about you. Even if your customer likes it or is accepting of it, when the cue is out there representing you it will give a bad impression I am afraid. The value of the wood is meaningless since the value in a cue is labor so discarding it at this point is no loss at all. You don't want to create bad press for yourself or have a customer who has to keep defending you. Worst case scenario is the buyer will not defend you and say something like they got the cue cheap because of the flaw.
Just things to consider. You can do a thousand things right but people remember the one negative even if unfairly.
 
macguy said:
Do you really like the way knots look or are you trying to convince yourself you do? The public perception of knots is negative. Put on a shaft with a knot in it and see what they say about you. Even if your customer likes it or is accepting of it, when the cue is out there representing you it will give a bad impression I am afraid. The value of the wood is meaningless since the value in a cue is labor so discarding it at this point is no loss at all. You don't want to create bad press for yourself or have a customer who has to keep defending you. Worst case scenario is the buyer will not defend you and say something like they got the cue cheap because of the flaw.
Just things to consider. You can do a thousand things right but people remember the one negative even if unfairly.
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i for one do, the piece of bocote on the cue in question would not have made the cut for me personally because its without more knots and figure "sorry joe". I think the public actually enjoys the personality that the knots add. jmo, though
 
I also think that the more knots, figure, and character the wood has, the more it has WOW factor and is more appealing to the customer.

just my experience

Kim
 
rhncue said:
I would absolutely core that piece. I wouldn't worry about the knots coming out or causing any problems but with them circling the forearm as they are I would worry about the cue breaking in that area with any abuse. Core with a straight grain core and don't give it another thought. If you are worried about it holding up just send it to me and in a few years I'll let you know the outcome.

Dick
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Thanks Dick. I did core it with purple heart. I would send it to ya, but unfortunately for you, its already spoken for ;) lol.

Joe
 
macguy said:
Do you really like the way knots look or are you trying to convince yourself you do? The public perception of knots is negative. Put on a shaft with a knot in it and see what they say about you. Even if your customer likes it or is accepting of it, when the cue is out there representing you it will give a bad impression I am afraid. The value of the wood is meaningless since the value in a cue is labor so discarding it at this point is no loss at all. You don't want to create bad press for yourself or have a customer who has to keep defending you. Worst case scenario is the buyer will not defend you and say something like they got the cue cheap because of the flaw.
Just things to consider. You can do a thousand things right but people remember the one negative even if unfairly.
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I see what you are saying, but since its in the figured piece of bocote that's gonna be the forearm, I don't think it will be looked at in a bad way. I truly like the knots. Without knots or figure, its just boring. I took Dicks advice from a while back and decided to only use what I thought was very good figured wood in my cues. I was planning on making some cheap cues with some cheap wood, but I read a post by Mr. Neighbors that made me think different. So far I've only made one plain jane, and it really pops. If I had done it the way I originally intended, it would look almost the same as a low end McDermott. I want my cues to POP! Lol. I appreciate your view and input though. Thanks.

Joe
 
The Knot sold it

I had 4 or 5 h/c conversions that my brother had done and I took them on vacation with me to OR. I ended up selling 3 of them that week and one of them was picked by the customer just because of the knot in the handle.
 
It's fine. Will hold just fine with a core. I personally like knots & such, that are commonly seen as defects. Birds eye used to be once considered defect, and was set aside for floors in factories barns. If it wasn't used, it was burned. Now it's considered a wood delicacy.
 
If there's nothing interesting about the wood, you end up with a boring cue that nobody wants to look at. If you want to make your cues out of straight grain maple, you may as well fill your shop with McDermott cues. I'll take crotch cut walnut (with core) any day over #1 common. And good luck finding bocote that doesn't have just that kind of figure.
 
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