I don't think I could ever do it.
No video, sorry.
No video, sorry.
How rare is it to be able to do this?
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Larry is one of the few players I've ever seen play that I think could shoot this shot corner to corner and draw the cue ball all the way back into the pocket where he started. He has the most powerful stroke I've ever seen and I heard Billy Incardona say the same thing doing commentary in an Accu-stats video. Billy knows more about pool and players than most of us combined. Billy made the statement that he'd back Larry against anyone in a contest for drawing the cue ball.
On brand new cloth I am pretty sure I could do it. On a table that has been used for a few months, no chance.
I think I know 2 local players (1 is on my team) that can do it no problem. The guy on my team can
do Earl's shot (force follow an almost straight in shot around the table twice and then around a second ball) aswell.
I would say it is very rare to find someone that can do it, probably 1 in 500 league players or so (scientific guesstimation).
Edit: link to Earl's shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDGvdPR_LHo
gr. Dave
I think I know 2 local players (1 is on my team) that can do it no problem. The guy on my team can
do Earl's shot (force follow an almost straight in shot around the table twice and then around a second ball) aswell.
I would say it is very rare to find someone that can do it, probably 1 in 500 league players or so (scientific guesstimation).
Edit: link to Earl's shot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDGvdPR_LHo
gr. Dave
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I concur. Power is useless without accuracy.
I know that Andy Quinn (from STL) used to use the same shot as a proposition shot for action.
he would gamble that he could do it 8 out of 10 times... and he rarely lost... not sure what kind of table, or cloth, or balls though...
regardless, that's pretty sporty!
he would gamble that he could do it 8 out of 10 times... and he rarely lost... not sure what kind of table, or cloth, or balls though...
regardless, that's pretty sporty!
Interesting that this is being compared to the shot with the OB in the middle of the table. Draw is a bit self-correcting if you hit off-center, so it's possible that the CB is coming back in a bit of a parabola, in which case he may have missed the OB if it wasn't a hanger. Still an impressive shot, but I just wanted to point out that it's about applying that much draw with some accuracy, but you don't have to hit the OB dead on for it to work.
There are a lot of players that can generate the draw stroke necessary, but it would be very impressive to see anyone hit this shot twice in a row. Bonus points if the CB comes back in a perfectly straight line...
There are a lot of players that can generate the draw stroke necessary, but it would be very impressive to see anyone hit this shot twice in a row. Bonus points if the CB comes back in a perfectly straight line...
Fairly common prop shot from back in the day.
Difficult but not terribly so with Practice.
Difficult but not terribly so with Practice.
You can apply enough draw to make the CB "correct its path" to about parallel to the one it would have taken if you had hit the OB dead center, but it will never return all the way to that exact path. So if you hit the OB a little off center and the CB deflect 3 inches to the right before the draw takes over and brings it back toward you, you're going to miss the scratch by at least those 3 inches. The only way to scratch off this shot without hitting the OB with extreme accuracy is to have some amount of masse spin on the ball counteracting the CB's movement down the tangent line before drawing back. While this effect may work out just right for shot success once in a blue moon, anyone who's making the shot consistently is hitting the OB dead-center with extreme accuracy (i.e. they would have made it into a very tight pocket several feet away).
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I'll wager against him doing it as long as Larry Nevel isn't the shooter.
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magyer i did it on a 6 by 12 snooker table it is a nice shot .you really have to have a nice stroke to do that. only did it once though,lol.
earthquake out.
I'm wondering why I'm getting all these replies in my e-mail box to a thread I did not post in. :grin:
Let me fix this for you:
Magyer, I did it on a 6-by-12 snooker table. It is a nice shot. You really have to have a nice stroke to do that. Only did it once, though. LOL
Earthquake out.
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Hitting a draw shot off center does cause swerve, which is basically a mini-masse. I believe that the swerve from hitting a draw shot out of the corner pocket a bit off center may be enough to make the CB curve in on the way back for a wider range than you may think. This is especially true if the pocket you are drawing back to is more generous. Because of that effect, I would challenge the assertion that drawing the CB back into the corner means that the OB would have gone into a tight pocket several feet away. I could be totally wrong, but it would be neat to see that on video.
Mannn..
I did this once when goofing around before an APA match to relieve some tension - team mates were setting up ridiculous shots and I was just shooting.
Actually jumped the ball about so it stayed almost 4-6 inches over the table length and still had backspin after pocketing the ball.
I would never try that in a match though.
I did this once when goofing around before an APA match to relieve some tension - team mates were setting up ridiculous shots and I was just shooting.
Actually jumped the ball about so it stayed almost 4-6 inches over the table length and still had backspin after pocketing the ball.
I would never try that in a match though.
Yes that's me and thx bro. I invented the last contraption shot. Kinda silly but fun.
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I understand Jimmy Caras did this shot in his exhibitions using only the thumb and fore-finger of his shooting hand. This was to show you don't need a death grip to have a clean draw.
Quinn is one of the guys Kid Delicious played and lost to as a fatty (getting the 7 believe it or not). Then came back and beat him even when he was skinny and Quinn didnt know it was the same guy.
I really dont know how he could miss the voice but apparently he did.