How the heck is this shot made?

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CreeDo

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHf3o6FtNnQ

By all accounts you just throw it in with max left and a touch of draw also. I tried like a thousand times and was lucky to cut it to the first diamond. One of the comments states that the cut contact point is the same as for an 80 degree cut (which I can handle) and that throw does the rest.

Can throw really help that much (adding 10 degrees of cut) on such a thin hit? I'd think that the effect of throw would be negligible when such a tiny sliver of the cue ball's energy is transferring to the OB.

I know I'm not a complete scrub, I made this one within my first 3 tries: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FAsJ4OfEM

But that one felt 100 times easier. What's the trick?
 
I'm with you, the best I could do was the first diamond. It's a damn intimidating shot, huh?
 
intimidating is right. i would probably consider any option before considering that shot in the course of a match.
 
CreeDo said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHf3o6FtNnQ

By all accounts you just throw it in with max left and a touch of draw also.
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I don't see how draw would add anything but more aiming difficulty.

One of the comments states that the cut contact point is the same as for an 80 degree cut (which I can handle) and that throw does the rest.
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I think the contact point is much closer to 90 degrees than 80.

Can throw really help that much (adding 10 degrees of cut) on such a thin hit? I'd think that the effect of throw would be negligible when such a tiny sliver of the cue ball's energy is transferring to the OB.
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I don't think an OB can be thrown 10 degrees even with a full hit. It certainly can't be thrown that much with an ultra thin cut.

I know I'm not a complete scrub, I made this one within my first 3 tries: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_FAsJ4OfEM

But that one felt 100 times easier. What's the trick?
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The "trick" is that one shot is not much more than 70 degrees and the other is about 90 (if not more). Don't forget, it takes Bob Jewett (who's also no scrub) many, many tries to make that spot shot.

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i think you would be better off spinning the object ball (almost with a slight masse) in rather than trying to just cut it in. especially if you shoot this shot in one pocket.
 
They should stop calling this the impossible shot, ive now seen it twice on the web and 3 times at the pool hall.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
I don't see how draw would add anything but more aiming difficulty.



I think the contact point is much closer to 90 degrees than 80.



I don't think an OB can be thrown 10 degrees even with a full hit. It certainly can't be thrown that much with an ultra thin cut.



The "trick" is that one shot is not much more than 70 degrees and the other is about 90 (if not more). Don't forget, it takes Bob Jewett (who's also no scrub) many, many tries to make that spot shot.

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I'll happily admit, I know NOTHING about how to shoot this shot. There's also some Joe Tucker videos of cut/bank shots that should not be possible. One person here said the balls must be filthy. While that does make sense to me, I don't believe that's entirely accurate. I mean, we're looking at crappy youtube videos. It's very difficult to desipher exactly what's going on.
 
If I recall correctly, Bob said you need two things to get enough throw to make this shot: dirty balls, and outside with a little low, such that the cue ball only has outside spin (no forward or backward spin) when it contacts the object ball.

I tried it a bunch of times but I don't think my balls were dirty enough. (Certainly couldn't have been my fault. :rolleyes: :p)
 
Cool, thanks for all the responses. So far all I haven't tried was the low and the filthiness. We'll see if that does it on the next round of attempts.
 
Cuebacca said:
If I recall correctly, Bob said you need two things to get enough throw to make this shot: dirty balls, and outside with a little low, such that the cue ball only has outside spin (no forward or backward spin) when it contacts the object ball.
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Hmm... I think you've changed my mind about the usefulness of draw on this shot. If the CB is sliding when it hits the OB, then the effect of the sidespin is maximized. Thanks.

One way to maximize your chances even with clean balls would be to put a chalk spot on the OB at the contact point (maybe two chalk spots side by side to give a bigger target).

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I have done this shot a grand total of once on my 9' table. This shot is a pain in the ass.
 
I was wondering is chalk involved in making this shot?I watch bob video
in slow motion and it look like when the balls collided a little blue cloud appeared.Just wondering,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
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