How to develop an A player's stroke.
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Joey A,
Look at the review I posted on Tues of my lesson with Scott. I believe it gives a good summary of why the value is there. I believe lessons with a good instructor are the quickest way to a good stroke. He will give youa ll of the things you asked for in the intial post, plus video feedback, and a way to tell immediately with every stroke what you did right and wrong.
Look at the review I posted on Tues of my lesson with Scott. I believe it gives a good summary of why the value is there. I believe lessons with a good instructor are the quickest way to a good stroke. He will give youa ll of the things you asked for in the intial post, plus video feedback, and a way to tell immediately with every stroke what you did right and wrong.
Here is a link to the review.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=88976
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=88976
brilliance said:
youtube has some for free or i like going to accustats. buddy hall has a video called how to win from bere that i really liked
Drill Diagrams
Here's the visual layouts of the drills that Williebetmore received from Mark Wilson. It's a little easier to visualize the drills if you have the cuetable.com diagrams.
Let me know if this is correct.
JoeyA
Here's the visual layouts of the drills that Williebetmore received from Mark Wilson. It's a little easier to visualize the drills if you have the cuetable.com diagrams.
Let me know if this is correct.
JoeyA
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Scott Lee said:Bugz...Darn it! What'd I forget?J/K, of course! We did get a chance to cover a lot of good information...but we spent several hours doing it. The dvd's and workbook will help remind you how to practice, to ingrain that information into your setup and delivery process...until it becomes a habit!
On topic, with this thread, I can offer what I believe to be some sound advice. Like Randyg mentioned, we work with our students to help them understand and create a solid "platform", from which they can derive a better sense of consistency, and application, of the fundamentals and mechanics making up each person's standard operating procedure (SOP). One of the first things I do with every student is to help them understand what their "personal template" is, and how it affects the way they set up and deliver the cue, accurately and consistently. The template consists of a player's natural stance, natural bridge length, the correct grip placement on the cue (at CB address), and then their individual 'pre-shot routine' (which includes their own timing mechanisms). The overal SOP process includes the mental and physical parts that go into each player's 'routine', even before they stand down on the shot...and progress right through completing the shot, and achieving position for the next shot. Without this basic understanding of how these elements affect the way the cue is delivered through the CB, it's difficult to begin to understand how to create the "perfect stroke". Once the knowledge is attained, the hard work begins, in order to replace old conditioned behavior, with new learned behavior. The length of time that takes will be in accordance with the desire, and 'stick-to-it' attitude that each player must accept, in order to succeed.
FYI...I'll be in MS, AL, LA & TX for the next couple of weeks, if anyone is interested in working with me. PM or email me...
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
email: poolology@aol.com
When you coming to FL?
Video tape yourself and be honest in your analysis. I used to record myself during practice sessions (but I'm getting a new camera today and I'll be doing it again), and I think being able to SEE what you're doing right and/or wrong is a lot more useful than someone telling you what you're doing right/wrong. After becoming a BCA instructor (proud member of the SPF family), I started video taping students, too, and that usually is one of the students' favorite parts of the classes.
Of course, it helps if you know what you're looking for....
-djb
Of course, it helps if you know what you're looking for....
-djb
To develop an "A" player stroke you must first study videos of Mike Davis and imitate his style.
No, No, No. Just kidding!! Do Not Do This!
No, No, No. Just kidding!! Do Not Do This!
If you don't like rice you can just have an A player leave you his stroke in his will, then have him wacked. Of course, before you do that you want to make sure your local prison has a pool table, otherwise it's a waste of time and effort.p1noy said:Eat rice 3 times a day...yes steamed rice... look at them rice eating pro players from Asia (Filipino, Chinese, Taiwanese and Japanese). They've been stroking their way to the WPC finals since 1999?
Scott Lee said:This is funny! I guess the pro players that come on here, telling us to master centerball (vertical axis shooting), instead of using sidespin on every shot, don't know what they're talking about!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott,
Better yet, I think he should master english before he starts working on those pesky fundamentals.
But seriously I would recommend taking a lesson from Scott Lee or attending Randy's pool school.
Scott I'm glad you?re in Michigan and someday when I have the money I intend to take another lesson or go back to PS.
Pii...Well, you just missed me. I spent the whole month of April in FL (and will do the same next year!). PM me, though, and I can work you into the schedule for my next trip down that way (which shouldn't be too long)!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Pii said:
Kevin...I believe we have another school planned for Guppies in Holland, this summer! I'll be over in the Detroit area again July 13-15, if you're interested.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
cuekev said:Scott,
Better yet, I think he should master english before he starts working on those pesky fundamentals.
But seriously I would recommend taking a lesson from Scott Lee or attending Randy's pool school.
Scott I'm glad you?re in Michigan and someday when I have the money I intend to take another lesson or go back to PS.
JoeyA said:
JoeyA...
First of all, thank you for asking such a great question! I've been searching for several years to improve my stroke, and I appreciate the advice you question has generated.
What I have learned so far that has made the most difference for me is to keep a light grip on the cue. I get so much better action, and it just feels so much better, and so effortless. I just wish I could build this into an unbreakable habit.
Thanks again for the excellent post.
Mikie
For developing an A players stroke there are two things I would recommend
The first is to get someone who REALLY knows the game, not ncessarily the best player in your area (often times the best players are feel players and really don't know the game all that well) Scott Lee would be good or some of the other top names or if not just try to find out who in your area really knows the best aspects of the game.
The second is for those who can't afford either instruction or table time and that is the tried and true bottle stroke practice method.
Start with a wide mouth bottle and get to wher you can stroke withouthitting the rim at all.
Then get a narrower and narrower mouthed bottle until it's barely bigger than the shaft.
Now bear in mind that this will help you the most if you are aware of proper mechanics. So if you can't get instruction. get a book.
JAden
The first is to get someone who REALLY knows the game, not ncessarily the best player in your area (often times the best players are feel players and really don't know the game all that well) Scott Lee would be good or some of the other top names or if not just try to find out who in your area really knows the best aspects of the game.
The second is for those who can't afford either instruction or table time and that is the tried and true bottle stroke practice method.
Start with a wide mouth bottle and get to wher you can stroke withouthitting the rim at all.
Then get a narrower and narrower mouthed bottle until it's barely bigger than the shaft.
Now bear in mind that this will help you the most if you are aware of proper mechanics. So if you can't get instruction. get a book.
JAden