The answer to the original post is: you likely can't. Earl strikes the CB with a big stroke and with extreme accuracy. There isn't a "how-to" guide on how to replicate his follow "action" outside of years of practice.
How to Force follow like Strickland
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Say what you will Bruce, but you know deep down, both you and DCP have posted some really ridiculous threads on here (to your credit, you've been better lately), and that was the focus of my comment to Mike.
As far as him "helping" anyone...it's clear to me that you have to have an understanding of how things work, in order to offer any helpful advice. On the other hand, you can do a lot of damage offering wrong or bad advice...especially to a new player. That's the purpose, as I understand it, for this section of AzB. That's why it's called "Ask The Instructor". That doesn't prohibit, or even necessarily discourage, others from contributing to threads here. I love having Little Joe post here...he's an instructor. Blackjack posts here...he's an instructor. Joe Tucker posts here...he's an instructor. I support Neil, Keebie and several others, who may not be "pro" instructors, but certainly are very knowledgable, and are especially geared towards offering help to anyone who wants it (we call those kind of people teachers or instructors too...they just don't do it for a living).
So you see Bruce, it's not about being BCA Certified, as a qualification to post here. Oh, and BTW, you're wrong about the certification program. We will not certify anyone who cannot teach (poor communication or people skills), or cannot pass a skill test to become an instructor. It may have been how you described it, in the past...but no more. Are some BCA instructors better than others? Undoubtably...just like some doctors are better, some lawyers are better, and some car mechanics are better. Find the one that works best for you.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
As far as him "helping" anyone...it's clear to me that you have to have an understanding of how things work, in order to offer any helpful advice. On the other hand, you can do a lot of damage offering wrong or bad advice...especially to a new player. That's the purpose, as I understand it, for this section of AzB. That's why it's called "Ask The Instructor". That doesn't prohibit, or even necessarily discourage, others from contributing to threads here. I love having Little Joe post here...he's an instructor. Blackjack posts here...he's an instructor. Joe Tucker posts here...he's an instructor. I support Neil, Keebie and several others, who may not be "pro" instructors, but certainly are very knowledgable, and are especially geared towards offering help to anyone who wants it (we call those kind of people teachers or instructors too...they just don't do it for a living).
So you see Bruce, it's not about being BCA Certified, as a qualification to post here. Oh, and BTW, you're wrong about the certification program. We will not certify anyone who cannot teach (poor communication or people skills), or cannot pass a skill test to become an instructor. It may have been how you described it, in the past...but no more. Are some BCA instructors better than others? Undoubtably...just like some doctors are better, some lawyers are better, and some car mechanics are better. Find the one that works best for you.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
GEE WHIZ Scott, DrCue'sProtege was trying to help, and I do not think you need a BCA's Instructor Certificate to help people.
As I understand all you need anyway to be a BCA Instructors anyway is the COURSE FEE, and the TIME TO TAKE THE CLASS. Then you get your SHEEP SKIN and the real work begins.
Learning to communicate with people so they can practice what you preach is a skill that take years to develop.
I know one GENTLEMAN here in Arizona who took said BCA CLASS, and still can't teach because he don't understand the principle of FLEXIBILITY, or COMMUNICATION. There is only one way in his mind be you 5”0”, or 6’ 4” Tall, he don’t have the flex ability to understand when you hit mid life your body don’t flex like a 18 y/o’s.
Heck John Barton did a couple of U-Tube on C.T.E Basic, and the material was so good. I was able to pick up his concepts, and work with the ideas until C.T.E. was as easy as 1, 2, 3.
BTW I do not believe John is or holds any Teaching Certifications from an Billiards Group, or Organization.
He is like Little Joe V. a guy who just got his information right on his (2) Instructional DVD's. I can not wait for Joe's next D.V.D. it should be a winner like the last two. IMHO.
Want to learn to Kick, or Control the Cue Balls Joe V’s DVD's are top of the pile.
I just finished reading Willie Mosconi's Autobiography, Willie never took a Pool Lesson, but sure played well.Wonder how that happened?
BTW Scott is you and DrCue'sProtege have a little feud going maybe a Pm's back and forth would work thing out! JMHO
Thanks Dean Lee 
I'll be the first to say thanks for the kind words Scott.....means a ton coming from someone of your stature/knowledge and position in the grand scheme of the sport.
I very much try to be sure I don't put up bad info as obviously it's important to me to spread the good word and help instead of hamper. Tho I'm sure I've made a comment or two that are against the grain, matter of fact I do remember one or two posts where you were kind enough to correct me....for that thanks very much.
I like the term teacher better than instructor anyway. Instructor sounds like I'm just there to tell them what to do.....teacher gives the connotation that I'm taking someone to school and helping THEM TO LEARN IT.
I know we spoke about me becoming certified last year and dammit its been something I've wanted to do for sometime now. My problem with BCA certification is that you have to have a certain # of students each year.....in my locale thats a big problem. No real love for the game do I see......so teaching and expecting someone to actually pay for the knowledge is kinda hopeless.
I took that one kid from a run of the mill 5 to a 9 locally making him one of the top 10 players in town....only took a couple years. I tried to give a little advice to someone he was playing in league the other night and the guy got all pissy, so my little horse beat him 6-0 lol (he's a good horse lol)
I have met a couple people lately that are taking a shine to me and my talents as a teacher. One of them I think is legitimate about coming over for some private lessons and the other is so so but hell at least the fella tries to pay me in liquor lol.
Whats the issue with getting SPF certified? Is there a student quota you have to keep? If there is one with you guys too then I'll just have to wait till I shoot the gap and move away from this joint.
In the mean time I'll just get some cards made up.....instead of saying CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR.....I'll just put
Keebie Fleniken II
has Scott Lee's blessing to teach billiards :grin::wink::grin-square: lol j/k
but is not officially certified
And coco and DCP lighten up....don't be so offended b/c you put up the wrong info in regards to the specific shot.
You were probably like me and wasn't quite sure which particular shot the OP was describing and just gave blind advice.
Thats why I didn't say anything except ask for a more detailed explanation of the shot....so I didn't put my steel toe in my mouth.
Look at it this way Scotts been teaching professionally since '77 and traveling since '95.....this is his LIFE! All the little players including azmembers are I'm sure like his little children in a way.
He's the typical old wise man.....kind, well spoken and extremely knowledgable. He's dedicated the better part of his life to making better players out of people using correct advice and information, and I'm sure he's seen all to many times what effects bad info in this sport can have on a developing player.
He didn't really jump anyones butt IMOP.....that would be like slapping someone in the face. What Scott did was grab him by the short hairs like ya moma used to do when you didn't clean the kitchen like she asked.
If his comment is too weak then no one gives a sh*t. He just let out a woof to get DCP's attention, trying to keep the information correct.
Before either of you let your mind run and start to think that I'm taking Scotts side cuz he said such nice things about me.....I could care less if he wants to tickle my balls. Scott gave me a compliment that I DESERVE, just like Neil and others he mentioned! and that is that.
You guys know how protective I am over the game and the underlying issues in it.......I would be completely shocked if Scott felt any less passionate.
Don't be upset with him for having good standards, he's got the tony and is one of the men really look up to for a dam good reason...HE'S ONE OF THE BEST, B/C HIS KNOWLEDGE RINGS TRUE, and he communicates it well, and his standards are high.
When someone of that nature corrects you its for a reason, all they should hear is yes sir, no sir, yes mam, no mam......instead of feeling burned take the info he just gave away for free and give thanks.
I'm always nervous about getting smoked by Scott or Randy or someone like that....PJ and guys like that don't bother me, hes more like a hall monitor lol.....Scott and Randy are like the Deans of the dam school. This makes me work even harder to be sure whatever I say on here or anywhere is as correct as it can be.
You have no idea how much time I put into just sitting in front my table and THINKING.....its very hard work IMOP so I can def understand someone getting a little upset with someone throwing wrenches in their spokes no matter if they were meant for better or worse....the wrong answer will always be just the wrong answer.
thats the way I see it,
-Keebie
I'll be the first to say thanks for the kind words Scott.....means a ton coming from someone of your stature/knowledge and position in the grand scheme of the sport.
I very much try to be sure I don't put up bad info as obviously it's important to me to spread the good word and help instead of hamper. Tho I'm sure I've made a comment or two that are against the grain, matter of fact I do remember one or two posts where you were kind enough to correct me....for that thanks very much.
I like the term teacher better than instructor anyway. Instructor sounds like I'm just there to tell them what to do.....teacher gives the connotation that I'm taking someone to school and helping THEM TO LEARN IT.
I know we spoke about me becoming certified last year and dammit its been something I've wanted to do for sometime now. My problem with BCA certification is that you have to have a certain # of students each year.....in my locale thats a big problem. No real love for the game do I see......so teaching and expecting someone to actually pay for the knowledge is kinda hopeless.
I took that one kid from a run of the mill 5 to a 9 locally making him one of the top 10 players in town....only took a couple years. I tried to give a little advice to someone he was playing in league the other night and the guy got all pissy, so my little horse beat him 6-0 lol (he's a good horse lol)
I have met a couple people lately that are taking a shine to me and my talents as a teacher. One of them I think is legitimate about coming over for some private lessons and the other is so so but hell at least the fella tries to pay me in liquor lol.
Whats the issue with getting SPF certified? Is there a student quota you have to keep? If there is one with you guys too then I'll just have to wait till I shoot the gap and move away from this joint.
In the mean time I'll just get some cards made up.....instead of saying CERTIFIED INSTRUCTOR.....I'll just put
Keebie Fleniken II
has Scott Lee's blessing to teach billiards :grin::wink::grin-square: lol j/k
but is not officially certified
And coco and DCP lighten up....don't be so offended b/c you put up the wrong info in regards to the specific shot.
You were probably like me and wasn't quite sure which particular shot the OP was describing and just gave blind advice.
Thats why I didn't say anything except ask for a more detailed explanation of the shot....so I didn't put my steel toe in my mouth.
Look at it this way Scotts been teaching professionally since '77 and traveling since '95.....this is his LIFE! All the little players including azmembers are I'm sure like his little children in a way.
He's the typical old wise man.....kind, well spoken and extremely knowledgable. He's dedicated the better part of his life to making better players out of people using correct advice and information, and I'm sure he's seen all to many times what effects bad info in this sport can have on a developing player.
He didn't really jump anyones butt IMOP.....that would be like slapping someone in the face. What Scott did was grab him by the short hairs like ya moma used to do when you didn't clean the kitchen like she asked.
If his comment is too weak then no one gives a sh*t. He just let out a woof to get DCP's attention, trying to keep the information correct.
Before either of you let your mind run and start to think that I'm taking Scotts side cuz he said such nice things about me.....I could care less if he wants to tickle my balls. Scott gave me a compliment that I DESERVE, just like Neil and others he mentioned! and that is that.
You guys know how protective I am over the game and the underlying issues in it.......I would be completely shocked if Scott felt any less passionate.
Don't be upset with him for having good standards, he's got the tony and is one of the men really look up to for a dam good reason...HE'S ONE OF THE BEST, B/C HIS KNOWLEDGE RINGS TRUE, and he communicates it well, and his standards are high.
When someone of that nature corrects you its for a reason, all they should hear is yes sir, no sir, yes mam, no mam......instead of feeling burned take the info he just gave away for free and give thanks.
I'm always nervous about getting smoked by Scott or Randy or someone like that....PJ and guys like that don't bother me, hes more like a hall monitor lol.....Scott and Randy are like the Deans of the dam school. This makes me work even harder to be sure whatever I say on here or anywhere is as correct as it can be.
You have no idea how much time I put into just sitting in front my table and THINKING.....its very hard work IMOP so I can def understand someone getting a little upset with someone throwing wrenches in their spokes no matter if they were meant for better or worse....the wrong answer will always be just the wrong answer.
thats the way I see it,
-Keebie
Don't forget triangles Neil......especially a pressed triangle....sho is fine
You aint lying either.....trying a new tip out could cost you up to $30 these days......I can get a whole box of 50 triangles, le pros or elkmasters for less than that.
All that layerd jazz is just people trying to squeeze a $20 bill out of a quarters a** way way way overpriced many of them. Hell I bet they can make the layered ones even faster than they do the solid ones.
Plus the longer someone can go without a tip replacement the less time they are going to spend with the cuemaker......and we already know that the best cuemakers in the golden age had many personal relationships with the players that used their equipment. They have it too easy now anyway, turn on the computer and a million diff cues are there..... There are tons more cuemakers than ever today, still I see it as a dying trade and working with players to tailor fit the equipment is fading too. Its just so commercialized, just seems less human.
layers are what you put on when its cold outside lol
-Grey Ghost-
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Neil I do understand what you are saying, I have used just about every tip on the market over the last 40 years. I am also not saying that a soft tip is better than any other, like you said it really is all personal preference. However, I do believe that the hardness of a tip can certainly increase spin on the cue ball. A soft tip will grab the cue ball and stay on the cue ball longer then a medium to a hard tip, and this alone will increase the associated spin produced when a cue ball is struck. However, controlling this spin takes some one who understands the physics of how a cue ball reacts when spin by an off center hit is applied to the cue ball. Shooting with a soft tip is actually more difficult than shooting with a medium or hard tip when it comes to applying spin to the cue ball, and this is because it is harder to control.
Take a good pressed Elkmaster tip and apply what you would call maximum spin to the cue ball, then switch back to the tip you normally use and recreate the same spin using the same method a before. I would be very surprised if you did not easily see a difference in the amount of spin generated and the over action induced to the cue ball.
I was not a believer in this myself for many years, but thanks to Earl this old dog learned a few new tricks.
Thanks for the dialog and conversation Neil I enjoyed it, and please take the time to preform a little test of your own, I think you may change your mind on this subject.
Have a great Night Buddy.
"What are some common mistakes causin the cue ball not to follow much"
This is the original posters question at the end of his post. I gave him NO WRONG ADVICE. what i said was correct, and very simple.
DCP
i have posted no ridiculous threads. period.
as a matter of fact, one recent thread i have posted is up to about 11 or 12 pages of responses. that being the "Diamondizing" thread. not too bad for being ridiculous.
Mike
REALLY? are you even awake yet? RE READ THIS WHOLE THREAD SO YOUR NOT LOST
He described the dam shot, then he asked the question in relation to that shot.......
YOUR GIVING ADVICE ON A COMPLETELY DIFF SHOT! HIGH ENGLISH WILL NOT GET YOU THERE BUDDY!
If you don't understand that then you better go drink a cup of coffee and find a study guide or something.
You tell him he's could be putting stunning the shot instead of hitting high follow.....THE SHOT REQUIRES IT TO BE A "TYPE" of STUN SHOT!!!!!!
SIDE SPIN GETS YOUR TRAVEL ON IN THIS SHOT, the only reason like Bob said about putting a touch of follow is to get the CB to that first rail....it has no other function b/c you couldn't put enough follow on the CB to get it to do that anyway on a pool table......that smidgeon of follow gets you to the rail and then the work horse of the shot steps in.....SIDE SPIN! It catches the rail and LAUCHES that little white bastard at warp speed across the golf course.
You didn't address the question properly and your answer to the OP showed it.
I'm pretty sure that the OP probably knows that if you want a normal type of follow shot that you would more top spin on the CB.
You answered a kindergarten class question, Scott, David, Bob and I addressed the masters level question that the OP was seeking the answer to.
But please do try and argue with me.....your lack of attention to details was the cause for your wrong advice. Keep trying to put out the chicago fire with gasoline.
best to just save face and not continue to look like a fool that can't accept that they were actually wrong.
I think its time for your nap bubba,
-Grey Ghost-
If you still have a fault in your thought process then go PM PJ the unbiased hall monitor of the forum and ask him who's shooting blanks.....hell start a thread and make a POLL.....be my guest sign your death certificate
The shot I'm trying to work on, is one I see Strickland do quite a bit. He is shooting the object ball in the corner, and he puts a lot of top spin on the cue ball and has it hit both rails in the corner after making the object ball. The shot is almost dead straight.
He described the dam shot, then he asked the question in relation to that shot.......
YOUR GIVING ADVICE ON A COMPLETELY DIFF SHOT! HIGH ENGLISH WILL NOT GET YOU THERE BUDDY!
If you don't understand that then you better go drink a cup of coffee and find a study guide or something.
You tell him he's could be putting stunning the shot instead of hitting high follow.....THE SHOT REQUIRES IT TO BE A "TYPE" of STUN SHOT!!!!!!
SIDE SPIN GETS YOUR TRAVEL ON IN THIS SHOT, the only reason like Bob said about putting a touch of follow is to get the CB to that first rail....it has no other function b/c you couldn't put enough follow on the CB to get it to do that anyway on a pool table......that smidgeon of follow gets you to the rail and then the work horse of the shot steps in.....SIDE SPIN! It catches the rail and LAUCHES that little white bastard at warp speed across the golf course.
You didn't address the question properly and your answer to the OP showed it.
I'm pretty sure that the OP probably knows that if you want a normal type of follow shot that you would more top spin on the CB.
You answered a kindergarten class question, Scott, David, Bob and I addressed the masters level question that the OP was seeking the answer to.
But please do try and argue with me.....your lack of attention to details was the cause for your wrong advice. Keep trying to put out the chicago fire with gasoline.
best to just save face and not continue to look like a fool that can't accept that they were actually wrong.
I think its time for your nap bubba,
-Grey Ghost-
If you still have a fault in your thought process then go PM PJ the unbiased hall monitor of the forum and ask him who's shooting blanks.....hell start a thread and make a POLL.....be my guest sign your death certificate
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GreyGhost and Scott,
I am not arguing. and you failed to post the entire original thread, just parts of it. here's the entire thread:
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"I have no problem drawing the ball, but for some reason I cannot get much top spin.
The shot I'm trying to work on, is one I see Strickland do quite a bit. He is shooting the object ball in the corner, and he puts a lot of top spin on the cue ball and has it hit both rails in the corner after making the object ball. The shot is almost dead straight.
What are some common mistakes causin the cue ball not to follow much.
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1) Paragraph One - the OP plainly states he has trouble following.
2) Paragraph Two - then he mentions the Strickland shot
3) Paragraph Three - then he asks for "COMMON" - DID YOU FAIL TO SEE THAT WORD COMMON??? - mistakes causing the CB not to follow much.
i tried to help him by mentioning a few things about what might be causing his inability to follow - which he plainly stated. since that time i have been attacked by people.
and yes, others specifically addressed the Strickland shot, which was mentioned in the thread. i never addressed the specifics of the Strickland shot since i am not familiar with it.
well, either way, i just fail to see why i keep getting attacked and insulted. but so be it, if that makes others feel better.
Mike
Here is the list of the threads i have posted for the last couple of months or so:
New Powder Blue Simonis 860 ( 1 2)
Break App - iPhone
"Diamondizing" A Table Thread ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)
Snooker Players & Their Elbow ( 1 2 3)
The Metal Thing On The Floor - U.S. Open & World Championships
Pool Table Wanted - Indiana
When The Old Cloth Comes Off.....
Quick Clean & Chalk Off
Ball Cleaning Methods ( 1 2)
Diamond & Gold Crown ( 1 2)
Earl's Elbow ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page)
How Much To Recover GCIV With Simonis 860? ( 1 2 3)
How Did Nick Varner Do At The Open?
My Latest Practice Regimen
Long Draw Shots - Wobbling? ( 1 2)
Age Old Drill Situation
Muscle Memory/Upper Arm ( 1 2)
Got My Stroke Groover ( 1 2)
Stroke Groover
What Is The Best Tip For.....
Now, Scott or others, which one(s) on this list are ridiculous? They all appear to be very interesting questions/topics to me, for the most part. and some of them have page after page.
Mike
I think Mika hits those spin shots with follow better than anyone. He probably does the most with follow of any pro I have watched. Earl has a super stroke. I agree with the OP force follow is a tough stroke to get in the bag.
Oh and all the back and forth beefing doesn't help the people who are reading this forum looking for good information. They make PM's for these sort of ego driven arguments when in reality both people are pretty much correct.
Oh and all the back and forth beefing doesn't help the people who are reading this forum looking for good information. They make PM's for these sort of ego driven arguments when in reality both people are pretty much correct.
You just have to read b/t the lines......
you finally say that you did not know the shot he was describing so you addressed the some common follow shot issues......
no problem......
but what your not catching is that the OP doesn't know how the shot he was describing (the shot he really wants to know) is even made.....the OP even stated that in the shot Earl uses alot of top spin......
THIS IS NOT CORRECT, so the regiment came to the rescue and told him exactly how that shot is made.....its not top spin its side spin.
Its not that your dead wrong brother.....it just added to confusion on the topic at hand.....Earls straight in shot that catches multiple rails at warp speed
This is the particular shot he was having problems with.
You tell the man to (basically) add more top spin with a level cue.
If he continues to try that shot using your advice it will never happen.
you gave great advice in regards to a typical follow shot, but like I said it doesn't apply to the shot he's trying to work on.
Thats where the issue lies.
You say your being attacked?
Well what the hell are we supposed to do when your giving answers to the wrong dam question and then refuse to see the logic in what we are saying?
Tell me Mike how do i get that logic through your thick head?
It wasn't an attack untill you refused to see your own fault in regards to the subject matter at hand.
What are we supposed to do? Just let the crap ride and let the OP go slap more follow on the shot, to no avail?
Then he's going to scratch the living sh*t out his head.....b/c its just not working and he's putting a hell of alot of top spin on that shot.
When that happens people get pissed off b/c they tried everything they were told and NOTHING!
Next they will badmouth you for what you meant out of kindness (wrong or right), and bad mouth the site......... effecting everyone and everything.
Its important Mike at least to some of us it very much is.
You could have come out earlier and just said "awe sh*t sorry homie I thought you were describing a diff shot" but instead you chose to push the matter and banter and argue.
I'm sorry if you feel like you were being attacked but this is not burger king you can't always have your way.....
IMOP there is the right way or the highway, personally I only accept RIGHT when it comes to these matters, If something I say or have learned is incorrect wether I was confused or I just made it up.....Please correct me too.
I am no diff than you, and Scott is no diff than us. If Scott came on here and gave definate wrong info, I'd be the first one to tell him so (we may wait forever that situation to arise tho lmfao)
Take a break, go back and read the thread and you should understand without a doubt what I'm trying to convey......i just can't see you not understand that, your no fool homie.
-Keebie
you finally say that you did not know the shot he was describing so you addressed the some common follow shot issues......
no problem......
but what your not catching is that the OP doesn't know how the shot he was describing (the shot he really wants to know) is even made.....the OP even stated that in the shot Earl uses alot of top spin......
THIS IS NOT CORRECT, so the regiment came to the rescue and told him exactly how that shot is made.....its not top spin its side spin.
Its not that your dead wrong brother.....it just added to confusion on the topic at hand.....Earls straight in shot that catches multiple rails at warp speed
This is the particular shot he was having problems with.
You tell the man to (basically) add more top spin with a level cue.
If he continues to try that shot using your advice it will never happen.
you gave great advice in regards to a typical follow shot, but like I said it doesn't apply to the shot he's trying to work on.
Thats where the issue lies.
You say your being attacked?
Well what the hell are we supposed to do when your giving answers to the wrong dam question and then refuse to see the logic in what we are saying?
Tell me Mike how do i get that logic through your thick head?
It wasn't an attack untill you refused to see your own fault in regards to the subject matter at hand.
What are we supposed to do? Just let the crap ride and let the OP go slap more follow on the shot, to no avail?
Then he's going to scratch the living sh*t out his head.....b/c its just not working and he's putting a hell of alot of top spin on that shot.
When that happens people get pissed off b/c they tried everything they were told and NOTHING!
Next they will badmouth you for what you meant out of kindness (wrong or right), and bad mouth the site......... effecting everyone and everything.
Its important Mike at least to some of us it very much is.
You could have come out earlier and just said "awe sh*t sorry homie I thought you were describing a diff shot" but instead you chose to push the matter and banter and argue.
I'm sorry if you feel like you were being attacked but this is not burger king you can't always have your way.....
IMOP there is the right way or the highway, personally I only accept RIGHT when it comes to these matters, If something I say or have learned is incorrect wether I was confused or I just made it up.....Please correct me too.
I am no diff than you, and Scott is no diff than us. If Scott came on here and gave definate wrong info, I'd be the first one to tell him so (we may wait forever that situation to arise tho lmfao)
Take a break, go back and read the thread and you should understand without a doubt what I'm trying to convey......i just can't see you not understand that, your no fool homie.
-Keebie
poolbreak
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If you want the answer from an "instructor" you have to pay for pool school, then they will tell you
I have never came across a thread where an answer wasn't provided. There are a lot of helpful and insightful people in this section whose advice/knowledge has helped me out tremendously.
BTW, one could do a lot worse than to receive personalized feedback from one of these instructors.
Scott Lee ===> "da man" :thumbup:
poolbreak...That's a very unfair and inaccurate comment. ALL of us instructors give out tons of free advice. Sure, if you want the "full monte" you can get it with a private lesson, or coming to pool school. That said none of us have ever refused to answer any question. You might be interested that several of us spend FIVE DAYS giving free lessons and advice to anyone who wants to learn, every year at the BCA Nationals. Did I say this is all FREE? 
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Oha....
i think this the first thread/posting since i am here on AZ that someone was able to make Scott *a bit angry*.
I m really wondering how someone can say something like this-- Since the first day i joined here, every Instructor i contacted answered me and also helped me. Especially the *SPF Crew* gave me some great input; next to nice advices. I m for sure about 30 years (with long break) in the billiards world, and would say that i have some knowledge. But the informations Scott, Randy, Steve etc etc shared with me gave me more than hundreds books. I wish i would have the experience of 30-40 years of *teaching* or beeing an instructor. Usualy there are many guys around who call themselve trainer or instructor.......but they are for sure--and the important thing is:
They love to help everyone-even without wanting to get paid.
And i was for sure never in a pool school or visited a BCA instructor program- but i wish i would be able to, just to share experiences from instructor to instructor. Each instructor is different (and this is good!)-- but i m still asking myself how someone could offend a guy like Scott Lee- so laughable.....(or even other from the *SPF Family*)
Scott- i know that especially you don t need any reputation, bc you know already what you re able to, what you re knowing and what ve done already for many hundreds of students (and pool-billiards in the states i woulds say, too)- but now i wanna say one time thx for your help in my time here on AZ- a pleasure for me that i met you here- and i ll be still looking up to you!
hat s off to all professional instructors here who are giving advices for nothing, too! god bless ya all,
lg from overseas,
Ingo
i think this the first thread/posting since i am here on AZ that someone was able to make Scott *a bit angry*.
I m really wondering how someone can say something like this-- Since the first day i joined here, every Instructor i contacted answered me and also helped me. Especially the *SPF Crew* gave me some great input; next to nice advices. I m for sure about 30 years (with long break) in the billiards world, and would say that i have some knowledge. But the informations Scott, Randy, Steve etc etc shared with me gave me more than hundreds books. I wish i would have the experience of 30-40 years of *teaching* or beeing an instructor. Usualy there are many guys around who call themselve trainer or instructor.......but they are for sure--and the important thing is:
They love to help everyone-even without wanting to get paid.
And i was for sure never in a pool school or visited a BCA instructor program- but i wish i would be able to, just to share experiences from instructor to instructor. Each instructor is different (and this is good!)-- but i m still asking myself how someone could offend a guy like Scott Lee- so laughable.....(or even other from the *SPF Family*)
Scott- i know that especially you don t need any reputation, bc you know already what you re able to, what you re knowing and what ve done already for many hundreds of students (and pool-billiards in the states i woulds say, too)- but now i wanna say one time thx for your help in my time here on AZ- a pleasure for me that i met you here- and i ll be still looking up to you!
hat s off to all professional instructors here who are giving advices for nothing, too! god bless ya all,
lg from overseas,
Ingo