How to identify a hustler.
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The true hustle is a con whether it’s a short con, over the course of one game or one night, or a long con that takes place over a week or more.
To some extent sandbagging in the leagues is a form of the long con or extended hustle.
Hustlers lead the victim to believe that they can get something for nothing or for very little effort or in general that they will have a near guaranteed substantial gain.
Perhaps the term sharking differs because it is more about wrecking your game rather than setting someone up for a fall. In that sense I would have to agree that Hopkins got sharked not hustled. A nice distinction – Thank You
PS I like the pink Caddy. Says something
To some extent sandbagging in the leagues is a form of the long con or extended hustle.
Hustlers lead the victim to believe that they can get something for nothing or for very little effort or in general that they will have a near guaranteed substantial gain.
Perhaps the term sharking differs because it is more about wrecking your game rather than setting someone up for a fall. In that sense I would have to agree that Hopkins got sharked not hustled. A nice distinction – Thank You
PS I like the pink Caddy. Says something
Given that a shark and a hustler are not necessarily the same person it would seems that there is another good idea here. The people with a shark for an avatar or as a decal on their case are publically stating that they are about wrecking the other guy’s game.
Obviously the hustler doesn’t advertize. So the guy with a shark for a logo is not the kind of guy I want to play pool with because he is about wrecking my game! Personally, I prefer a fair fight and his best game but not everyone agrees.
Then too, the guy with a shark for a logo has told me much about himself. Forewarned is forearmed
Obviously the hustler doesn’t advertize. So the guy with a shark for a logo is not the kind of guy I want to play pool with because he is about wrecking my game! Personally, I prefer a fair fight and his best game but not everyone agrees.
Then too, the guy with a shark for a logo has told me much about himself. Forewarned is forearmed
That's good advice. I love watching people match up with a road player at a game the road player wants to play
. People are so eager to make money the cripple themselves.The weekend before last me and my wife were playing at a local bar and two guys come in. It was Sunday afternoon around 2:00, the place was empty except for me an my wife and a few people sitting at the bar playing video poker. With 13 empty tables to play on these two guys come up and take a table right next to us. Both guys are probably in their late forties or very early fifties. One guy was pretty quiet, but the other was loud and very obnoxious. Yelling about the music on the juke box and how much he had to drink already before he got there. He complains loudly about the house cues as he walks around the place looking for one he likes.
The loud guy starts telling me how he is the best pool player ever and how his buddy really sucks but he is trying to teach him. When they finally set up a rack, and he knows I'm watching him, he fires up and miscues on the break shot. He continues to make shots way to hard and skipping the cue ball off the table a few times. After about half an hour of him trying to look like he is so drunk he can barely hit the cue ball, that's when he asks if we want to play a few games with him and his friend. This guy couldn't have been more obvious if he had a neon sign over his head that said "I'm a hustler".
We played a doubles game and lost, with loud guy making a few "lucky" shots like a 3 rail kick and two long table banks through traffic. We left after that. Loud obnoxious jerks like that tend get on my nerves. Although his theatrics were so over the top that it was rather comical. If I was a better player I might have stuck around and played the sap for a while, at least until the money got interesting
The loud guy starts telling me how he is the best pool player ever and how his buddy really sucks but he is trying to teach him. When they finally set up a rack, and he knows I'm watching him, he fires up and miscues on the break shot. He continues to make shots way to hard and skipping the cue ball off the table a few times. After about half an hour of him trying to look like he is so drunk he can barely hit the cue ball, that's when he asks if we want to play a few games with him and his friend. This guy couldn't have been more obvious if he had a neon sign over his head that said "I'm a hustler".
We played a doubles game and lost, with loud guy making a few "lucky" shots like a 3 rail kick and two long table banks through traffic. We left after that. Loud obnoxious jerks like that tend get on my nerves. Although his theatrics were so over the top that it was rather comical. If I was a better player I might have stuck around and played the sap for a while, at least until the money got interesting
if one can be identified as a hustler,one is not hustling good enough LOL. TAR!!!!
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I've had people try such obvious stunts on me...I just tell 'em I don't play for money, but that my "honorary newphew" does, and I'd be glad to phone him. They usually ask for a name. I give it to them. Quite often, they shut up & leave me alone.
I'm sure there are people here who could beat him...but not the majority. His name would appear on most "top 10 in the Northwest" lists...not Glenn Atwell speed, but he has beaten Atwell in tournaments...
I'm sure there are people here who could beat him...but not the majority. His name would appear on most "top 10 in the Northwest" lists...not Glenn Atwell speed, but he has beaten Atwell in tournaments...
I still say a white, or pink, '59 Cadillac is a dead give away. It's hard to say about the Zoot suits. You see them all the time. :wink:
The word that fits the above description is ' sharking' but not hustling.
Hustling is not showing the true speed.One may use the term deception .
taking money from the unsuspecting grandma is called stealing/robbing/thuggery or what ever u can call.
Where do u get this idea from.?
Con is a law breaker.
What law a hustler broke?
Hustler is no different than a football running back.Running back dodges and misguides the tacklers with his misleading foot work & his body movements.A hustler misleads other players making them believe he can`t play.
The one who looses to a hustler is a greedy & grandiose person who wanted to rob the hustler and don`t call him a victim.
Hustler is NOT exibitionistic and he is a very HUMBLE CREATURE who does not want to show off his skills unless needed.He breaks no law.Enough said.
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I think you are confusing two separate definitions for the word "con". Con has many definitions depending on the context. You are thinking of the shortened version of convict, someone who has been convicted of a crime. In this case it means to defraud or swindle by winning someone's confidence.
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You didn't wait long enough to reply. You have to wait until JoeW's done with the after-post editing, and then give it some more time to "stabilize," before answering the post.
(JoeW: I'm just aggressively ribbin' ya -- all in good-natured fun. Seriously, thanks for relaying the details of the match.)
-Sean
Sean-
My bad. I got over anxious-couldn't 'wait..for it!'. I like JoeW's posts. Wanted to catch one in it's early stage.Take care.
Sean-
Take care.
My second wife accused me of that all the time. I couldn't help myself.
Regretfully when i was a telemarketer in 93-95 i did cheat alot of honest people, how ever you are partially right, the greedier they are the harder they fall and will lose more-but it is possible to cheat anyone. I have been cheated, I lived a dishonest life for a bit over 2 years and I regret it now, we all do I still talk to some of the guys I worked with and its like people who were in a war and killed innocent people-you aways feel the guilt. I'm sure its much less for the guys like me than Vets of wars.
guess you haven't played in some of the scarier places then....with those who rob with guns, knives, threats of physical violence; etc...not to mention the ole grab and go of someone else's cue/case, whatever. All in a pool setting BTW.
As far as the hustling goes....you get taken usually when you are looking to do the taking yourself.
this is exactly how i got the name hustler when i practice shots the goal isn't always making a ball..then when its game time a whole another person is introduced..lol
...and that's where the terms "lemon pool" or "lemoning it" come from. JohnnyT has some excellent play-by-plays of some patio-pool-table lemon pool "carrots" he dangled for the nearby neighbor house's outdoor painter to watch and bite on.
JT, care to share?
-Sean