I guess our idea of "hustling" is a bit different. Dumping isn't hustling.
It's not?
What is losing on purpose then? So when a person loses on purpose in order to win money then it's not dumping? I didn't say that the player who is losing on purpose on TAR is dumping a backer. What if they put up their own money and then had much more bet on the side against themselves?
Why is this any different than if someone does the same thing in the pool room?
To go back to the Color of Money - remember the two brothers and a stranger hustle? Vince goes in and plays lights out and shows everyone that he is best and no one wants to play him anymore without a huge spot.
Eddie comes in later acting like an obnoxious drunk with money and heckles Vince. He offers to bet against Vince and the rail takes him up on it and of course Vince then dogs it and they win the cash from bartender.
How do you define this? Are certain hustles allowed but not others?
What would you say if someone gets on AZ and offers nutty odds on player x to win. He takes all action and the total amount on the rail is very very high. Player Y inexplicably loses to player x but he does manage to cover SOME of the spreads so the guy giving out the odds loses SOME of the bets but he wins the majority of the money? How would you classify this behavior if you knew that player Y laid down.
Or is "hustling" only that which happens between two players in your opinion?