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Not from there you can't. Do you even understand what pool balls can and can not do?
Makes me wonder who shot the shot in the video.
JC
How would you get position on the 9 ball?
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Not from there you can't. Do you even understand what pool balls can and can not do?
Makes me wonder who shot the shot in the video.
JC
JC
Coos Cues
At a pool school run by 4 pros they had an exercise where the amateurs would play the mental game and the pros would execute the shots. One of the instructors told me stories of some of these people asking the pros to play positional shots that were not physically possible thinking they themselves could do it if only they could stroke it better.
You sir are delusional if you think you can draw off that 8 ball back to the third diamond from that cue ball position after potting the 8. It's simply not possible. Not by you, not by anyone. My stroke has nothing to do with this.
JC
JC
Coos Cues
Give me a cyclop cue ball.
I'll give you that and a month and 5 to one odds on 50 bucks.
It can't be done.
JC
I'll head to the pool hall tomorrow and will report back. If I can make it I will supply video of course....or how about somebody else give it a shot? Maybe this can be a new challenge? Draw back to the 3rd diamond.
This could be tough...Corey had a similar shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDrZK6VpuU&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbi16gxjER0
(Doesn't he end up missing the 5?)
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JC
Coos Cues
I'll head to the pool hall tomorrow and will report back. If I can make it I will supply video of course....or how about somebody else give it a shot? Maybe this can be a new challenge? Draw back to the 3rd diamond.
Just get the ball positions right. No cheating by straightening it out or moving the 8 ball up table. And no waxing the balls although I don't think even that will be enough.
The 8 ball is in line with the first diamond on the end rail and a couple of balls above the first diamond on the side rail.
The cue ball is half way between the first and center diamond on the end rail and just over half court up table.
Good luck
JC
JC
Coos Cues
I'll head to the pool hall tomorrow and will report back. If I can make it I will supply video of course....or how about somebody else give it a shot? Maybe this can be a new challenge? Draw back to the 3rd diamond.
This could be tough...Corey had a similar shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVDrZK6VpuU&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbi16gxjER0
(Doesn't he end up missing the 5?)
That's not drawing it back. He drew it straight across and spun it up table.
I'm not talking about spinning it back off the first rail to the third diamond on the side the 9 ball is on. Of course any good player can do that.
You're not back peddling are you?
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It's not an easy position shot. I see why you chose that shot but, never the less it won't be a shot you can duplicate consistently without setting it up time and time again. Low percentage shot. I tried a couple of my suggestions in practice. Low English draw towards the corner (which is my first choice) I hit dead on position twice. Took me a while to stop thinking about the position over making the ball but one I did that it plays out fine. Slow right inside/right English plays fine but it does leave a tough angle on the 9. Didn't try the rest but the other that also plays nice is the "Efren" shot. Low inside. Just have to have a very good stroke. Most players wouldn't play it or if they did couldn't execute it.
Of those options drawing toward the corner playing 2 rails I like the best.
All said, not a shot I generally would look forward to playing unless I was practicing at home.
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anyone consider leaving a bank shot on the 9? think you could get there if you shoot the 8 with high spin off the short and long rail. I could be wrong.
Typically you don't want to play position for a bank shot unless there is no other option.
That would be the tangent near the pocket for the 4th option right? In the pic the tangent could slide closer to the corner pocket (green line) and come off even shorter...but you are still coming towards the side pocket...and still have a steeper angle on the 9.
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No doubt, was just thinking outside the box there. I mean, if you're on the hill and don't feel adventurous about the 8 but you do feel confident about your banks (let's say you're from Kentucky), you may choose this route. From where the 9 is, a bank to the centerpocket is not extremely difficult. But you're right, on the money ball you want a clean shot, as straight as you can get.
Maybe we're seeing it differently, but I can draw that ball past the first diamond on the long rail all day long. I doubt I can get to the third diamond, that would be amazing, but I'll set it up according to how you described it in your other post and get above the first diamond. I can post it tonight after work unless someone beats me to it.
By the way, considering this image you posted:
the option you show here, where CB ends up farthest from the 9 (so the one above the position of the CB) does not seem too hard to me. In fact, come to think of it -- I think that would be exactly what I would end up doing.
I would feel confident of making the 8 (top right english of course, and I have to be sure not to overrun the CB but I think I could do it though it's not a gimme) and the shot on the 9 may have kinda-big angle, but still manageable.
Just a matter of full-on concentration and confidence and control, but still the most doable solution of anything I've seen here.
And then the other option that's shown here: if you extend the line towards the long rail, that's a position from where you'd have to shoot the 9 along the long rail past the side pocket (so depends a little on the table, if that works or not). At least those are two shots that play naturally.
I'm gonna try these solutions tonight.
the option you show here, where CB ends up farthest from the 9 (so the one above the position of the CB) does not seem too hard to me. In fact, come to think of it -- I think that would be exactly what I would end up doing.
I would feel confident of making the 8 (top right english of course, and I have to be sure not to overrun the CB but I think I could do it though it's not a gimme) and the shot on the 9 may have kinda-big angle, but still manageable.
Just a matter of full-on concentration and confidence and control, but still the most doable solution of anything I've seen here.
And then the other option that's shown here: if you extend the line towards the long rail, that's a position from where you'd have to shoot the 9 along the long rail past the side pocket (so depends a little on the table, if that works or not). At least those are two shots that play naturally.
I'm gonna try these solutions tonight.
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By the way, considering this image you posted:
the option you show here, where CB ends up farthest from the 9 (so the one above the position of the CB) does not seem too hard to me. In fact, come to think of it -- I think that would be exactly what I would end up doing.
I would feel confident of making the 8 (top right english of course, and I have to be sure not to overrun the CB but I think I could do it though it's not a gimme) and the shot on the 9 may have kinda-big angle, but still manageable.
Just a matter of full-on concentration and confidence and control, but still the most doable solution of anything I've seen here.
True...but that's a lot of check sides to end up as in the photo...chances are you would not get that tight. Also, the tangent after contact is pretty steep in the photo...realistically you are going to be hitting nearer or past the middle diamond on the short rail. Still doable though.
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RAM shot, ftw.
If you cant make both balls in one shot, you are a loser.
If you cant make both balls in one shot, you are a loser.
For some more ''chew'' on this thread.
My preferred cueing would favor slight inside draw Very slight with a left too right follow thru finishing swing, Not a right to left finish/hit through.
My preferred cueing would favor slight inside draw Very slight with a left too right follow thru finishing swing, Not a right to left finish/hit through.
