How Would You Run These?

I seriously doubt anyone harping three rail shape forward has actually set this up and looked at it. It's not as easy as you think. The speed and spin necessary to travel the three rails is way more than it appears. I don't have a ten footer but on my nine footer that would be about the last thing to try. The cue ball deflects off the seven and hits too high on the long rail for it to spin around naturally set up exactly as shown. To make it work at all you have to cheat the pocket to the left and you risk rattling the ball.

On the other hand I'm not Rodney Morris.

JC
 
I WAS talking about the pictured layout...

poolhustler said:
My bad, I thought were talking about the proposed and pictured layout, not some hypothetical "harder" layout...:rolleyes:
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I absolutely WAS talking about the pictured layout. If you don't choose the inside follow for that easy layout, you might not (out of habit) on a more difficult layout, so while the difference in percentage of getting out while making the wrong choice in this layout may only be 2-3%, in a different situation it may be 20-30% and because you accustomize yourself to playing the shot in a way that is not optimal, you are more likely to play it wrong, when it becomes more critical...

Jaden
 
The shooter is Landon Shuffet at the 2012 Southern Classic. His rail bridge was a strong clue that he was going to roll the 7 in and that's what he did.

Thanks for the many good thoughts & ideas put forth in this thread.

ONB

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Hits 'em Hard said:
If you aren't capable of spinning the cue ball enough to stay out of a scratch, what the hell you doing trying to play big boy pool?
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I didn't say anything about not being capable. But sometimes you go for X amount of spin and due to being human, end up with Y amount. Sometimes Y is less than X, sometimes more. In this case, if it's less, you might scratch.

JC understands.

-Andrew
 
Old Nine Baller said:
The shooter is Landon Shuffet at the 2012 Southern Classic. His rail bridge was a strong clue that he was going to roll the 7 in and that's what he did.

Thanks for the many good thoughts & ideas put forth in this thread.

ONB



While you were posting this I was shooting the layout and came to the same conclusion as Landon.

Here are the results http://youtu.be/2zDrmsHRkYc

Thanks for the thread ONB. These are always fun

JC
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Old Nine Baller said:
Yep, that's why there are 4 different shots presented so far...because it's so easy:D.

Do share.

ONB
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It's just such a simple lay out that you can get out with high inside 3 rails or drawing around the 9ball. They are both pretty brainless but I think the high inside is pretty dog proof to get on the 8.
 
JC said:
I seriously doubt anyone harping three rail shape forward has actually set this up and looked at it. It's not as easy as you think. The speed and spin necessary to travel the three rails is way more than it appears. I don't have a ten footer but on my nine footer that would be about the last thing to try. The cue ball deflects off the seven and hits too high on the long rail for it to spin around naturally set up exactly as shown. To make it work at all you have to cheat the pocket to the left and you risk rattling the ball.

On the other hand I'm not Rodney Morris.

JC
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Let your stroke out son.
 
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Old Nine Baller said:
The shooter is Landon Shuffet at the 2012 Southern Classic. His rail bridge was a strong clue that he was going to roll the 7 in and that's what he did.

Thanks for the many good thoughts & ideas put forth in this thread.

ONB
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Is it true to say no one advocated doing it the way Landon did? Forgive me if I am wrong, but I dont recall seeing that.

This one was of interest to me, as I am usually guilty of picking a route that takes me across the line of the next shot rather than along it. I would have picked the right english to go between the rail and the 9.
 
Petros Andrikop said:
One may simply roll the CB below the 9, medium-slow speed, one cushion, nothing more needed.
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JC said:
Three rails forward is a much more advanced shot than drawing behind the 9. It takes a better stroke and a lot more practice and confidence. The best shot selection in every case is the one that you can execute reliably with your current skill set . There is no "right shot" or "wrong shot" in many cases because of this. This is one of those cases which is why there are so many "answers". For that matter a person could also easily shoot a medium natural rolling shot and come out underneath the nine for acceptable shape given where the 8 ball is sitting.

JC
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AngryTurtle said:
Is it true to say no one advocated doing it the way Landon did? Forgive me if I am wrong, but I dont recall seeing that.
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No, it's not true.

ONB
 
Old Nine Baller said:
I never played 10 Ball on a 10' table, that's a modern phenomenon. My game was 1 Pocket. Played it on every size/type table there was.

ONB
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One pocket player... well you might have a little trouble. Your aiming system probably only works for one pocket.:p
 
I don't like Landon's choice. Too easy to contact the 9 on the way off the rail, plus...IMO...he got on the wrong side of the 8.

It appears that the cb would want to go up table from there, which isn't unworkable, considering Bigfoot...but I'd rather have been more up table for the 8, shooting the 9 from near where his 8b position was.
 
Black-Balled said:
I don't like Landon's choice. Too easy to contact the 9 on the way off the rail, plus...IMO...he got on the wrong side of the 8.

It appears that the cb would want to go up table from there, which isn't unworkable, considering Bigfoot...but I'd rather have been more up table for the 8, shooting the 9 from near where his 8b position was.
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Agreed.

ONB
 
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