How would you shoot this? Layout Included.

My first thought is that your in better position to win so i dont want to mess that up.

I think I would shoot the 6 2 rails out into the open side of table trying to get as close to the corner as possible even if its a diamond or more away. Leave an easyish ball on that end.
I would try and leave the cueball on the same plane as the 9 ball not leaving a good shot or cut either way. 5 blocks the 10 and even if he banks the 9 he has a very hard out.

With 6 in open its hard for him to play a good safe..

I read your idea and don't like it that much because if you draw too much or too little you leave both balls open for him to win.
 
My take: look at all the angles and shots closely. Make a big scene. Use your time out if you have one. Measure things with your cue stick. Point at things with your tip like the pocket, the rail, a carom. etc. Really build up the drama and suspense. Look concerned.

Then bet your opponent $500 [or less, or more] that he doesn't get another shot that game. When he takes the bet, shoot the 8 ball in. You lose the game, but win the cash.

Or could do what others are recommending to prolong the game. Sometimes the money is better :)

-td

bigshooter said:
The game is 8 ball and you are solids.

5 ball cannot be banked back across to side or to the corner pocket since the 6 & 10 balls are in the way.

The 6 cannot be cut into the corner without scratching in the side - no way to avoid the scratch. It cannot be banked since the 10 ball is blocking. It also cannot be cut into the side pocket. (diagram is not perfect you will have to trust me on this one)

The opponents 9 ball is frozen to the rail if that matters to you.

This is what I was faced with to win a tournament last weekend.


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filluptieu said:
simple. just roll the 6 up to the ten and let the opponent shoot the 9
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If you keep both balls on the up table side of the 10 you leave your self open for a great safe to lock you up behind it or the 8 ball, 3 rails off the 9.


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Jusr roll the 6 hard enough to bump the 10 into the rail leaving the 6 basically in front of it and let him kick the 9 out and go from there.
 
Bank the five to middle of table, leave cue ball behind the 6. If its a Diamond, and the score was in my favor I'd bank the five two rails cross corner into the corner pocket and leave whitey on top of the ten straight in on the six and run out.
 
I'd nudge the 5 on the long rail, leaving the CB behind the 5 so he's forced to shoot the 9. That leaves several shots, when it is your turn again, to break out the 5 with a shot on the 6. It looks like most of the higher risk offensive shots also leave your opponent with an opportunity should you miss.
 
takeitdown said:
Hit 6 off long rail in front of top right corner and roll CB up behind 5. I ler him hav the 9 to shoot or safe. He will be shooting over the 5. His chance of making the 9, then 10 in practically zero. With the 6 out front of the corner I am a huge favorite to win. The 5 is still in front of the side. Easy ball after 6 in made.
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I haven't read any farther yet ... but this is the shot for sure. Why tie up your own 5 ball.
 
Lots of great strategies here. The way I did it worked for me, I won $1200.00 for first.
 
PETROBOY said:
Couldn't he roll behind the 10 and hook you?

I re read your post and seen your idea if he did that but I think he could roll up on it and not disturb the 5
So you will have 2 tough shots and he didn't have to make any other then a soft hit.

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Agreed, you would be in trouble.

I left the 6 by the top right corner, where it can be made from.almosr anywhere.

Cueball over 5 and just let him shoot at the 9. If he makes it tge 10 is tough, very tough position.

8 ball is a blast for me to play. I like how it forces us to make decisions and moves that win in the simplest ways and at times demands we roll the dice on a big time shot.
 
bigshooter said:
The game is 8 ball and you are solids.

5 ball cannot be banked back across to side or to the corner pocket since the 6 & 10 balls are in the way.

The 6 cannot be cut into the corner without scratching in the side - no way to avoid the scratch. It cannot be banked since the 10 ball is blocking. It also cannot be cut into the side pocket. (diagram is not perfect you will have to trust me on this one)

The opponents 9 ball is frozen to the rail if that matters to you.

This is what I was faced with to win a tournament last weekend.


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I am curious if you won :-D

As for the shot I play. I like going for defense here. 5 into the 10.
 
frankncali said:
My first thought is that your in better position to win so i dont want to mess that up.

I think I would shoot the 6 2 rails out into the open side of table trying to get as close to the corner as possible even if its a diamond or more away. Leave an easyish ball on that end.
I would try and leave the cueball on the same plane as the 9 ball not leaving a good shot or cut either way. 5 blocks the 10 and even if he banks the 9 he has a very hard out.

With 6 in open its hard for him to play a good safe..

I read your idea and don't like it that much because if you draw too much or too little you leave both balls open for him to win.
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Different placement of the 6, but just what I am thinking. You clearly have the advantage. 5 is easy in the side and blocks easy access to the10. The 9 is isolated on the end rail. If the 6 is left easy and you force him to do something with the 9 you have almost won
 
I believe that trying to relocate the six to near the corner pocket is not an option by the way the balls are sitting. Getting the cue ball away from the scratch is not an easy task. You might have to use slight draw causing you to lose control of the six ball.

Even if you succeed in moving the six like you want you now put the eight into play as a blocker on the six while allowing him to reposition the nine thus you would lose your advantage. The five and ten might also be used as blockers.

I believe the five and the six are stronger being together in this situation. Putting the five on top of ten will give you more options down the line while severely limiting his options.

In this situation I wouldn't be expecting to win on my next turn. First I would try to suffocate my opponent.
 
dabarbr said:
I believe that trying to relocate the six to near the corner pocket is not an option by the way the balls are sitting. Getting the cue ball away from the scratch is not an easy task. You might have to use slight draw causing you to lose control of the six ball.

Even if you succeed in moving the six like you want you now put the eight into play as a blocker on the six while allowing him to reposition the nine thus you would lose your advantage. The five and ten might also be used as blockers.

I believe the five and the six are stronger being together in this situation. Putting the five on top of ten will give you more options down the line while severely limiting his options.

In this situation I wouldn't be expecting to win on my next turn. First I would try to suffocate my opponent.
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Seems natural to me. Shoot the 6 to the head string diamond, lightly drawing the cue ball to the rail just under the side pocket.
 
I would flail away and hope my opponent sucked worse than I do.

Freddie <~~~ just tell us so we can say we would have done it soooooo much better
 
TheNewSharkster said:
I am curious if you won :-D

As for the shot I play. I like going for defense here. 5 into the 10.
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Yes I won - my opponent went for the 9 like I hoped he would. Missed like I hoped he would and I won the game/set/tournament.
1st place and $1200.00 big ones. :)
 
bigshooter said:
Yes I won - my opponent went for the 9 like I hoped he would. Missed like I hoped he would and I won the game/set/tournament.
1st place and $1200.00 big ones. :)
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congratulations on your win. Your selection would be a bit gutsy for me but it worked for you. Even though you placed the balls like you wanted to you did give him an opportunity to win the game by giving him that spin shot on the nine ball with the cue ball going toward the five and ten. I would welcome that shot after being a heavy underdog from the situation I was in.

P.S. Good thread. Many good responses by all. It comes down to making the selection that is best for you.
 
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I did not read other replies before posting my shot....

This is a tricky situation. I don't want to play a soft safe that ties up my balls with his, and makes it difficult to win in a later inning.

I'm going to hit the 6 into the 10, so the 6 comes off the face of the 10, double kissing the 10. The 10 stays there, and the 6 moves a few inches to the right. The 6 and 10 are far enough apart that the 6 can be shot in the corner in a later inning.

The CB on my shot would snuggle up on the 5. It doesn't matter if you get right on the 5 or not, as the opponent will most likely lag you on the 9 next.
 
dabarbr said:
I believe that trying to relocate the six to near the corner pocket is not an option by the way the balls are sitting. Getting the cue ball away from the scratch is not an easy task. You might have to use slight draw causing you to lose control of the six ball.

Even if you succeed in moving the six like you want you now put the eight into play as a blocker on the six while allowing him to reposition the nine thus you would lose your advantage. The five and ten might also be used as blockers.

I believe the five and the six are stronger being together in this situation. Putting the five on top of ten will give you more options down the line while severely limiting his options.

In this situation I wouldn't be expecting to win on my next turn. First I would try to suffocate my opponent.
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Frank knowing you helps me when reading your responses

You say something very important in stating that you don't expect to win on your next turn. I am not sure how many new or seasoned players really think "chesslike" when looking at shots like this. Plus you are thinking about the WIN not what the plays look like.

A lot of us can learn (and win) by thinking more along those "chesslike" lines.

I love these type thread when we get to see some many different thoughts and are able to learn even without hitting a ball.
 
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