I guess I'm the only one.

Jodacus

Jodacus

Shoot...don't talk
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After reading how everyone really dislikes
the variety of 8 ball bar rules I'm really surprised!

I've played in all over the world and have thoroughly
enjoyed learning and playing by the local rules.

Even when there was no common language and I
would point to and motion the movement of the
cue ball, then make the OK sign with my hand,
people usually understood what I was asking.

It was even more fun to try to grasp the rules by
their hand signs, facial expressions and gestures.

I have had some wonderfully fun times with this
and look forward to future opportunities. We always
worked it out and no one ever got angry.The home
guys really seemed to enjoy it too.

T guess I'm the only one !
 
No way. I once played pool in a little village in Peru called Titibumba.

It is close to Lake Titcaca. Lots of Titis there, you'd love it.
 
I found it intresting paying in diffrent countires i was inpressed with hand gestures its kinda universal never hand any issues
 
Nope you are not the only one... I know 8 ball is considered an entry level game by some. But pretty much wherever you go or what level of player you are playing, everybody knows how to play 8 ball, even if they make up the rules now and then. Keeps it fun IMO.
 
Oh ya and i love 8ball its my strongest game right now, i also feel it can be harder than 9ball.9ball is dictated. 8ball you pick the wrong ball to run out you can end up in a bind.
 
Your not alone

I j=have played all over Mexico and I dont speak Spanish. I have played in most of the Islands and have payed off and been payed and the rules never came into play.

When you run out, it doesnt matter and when your stuck in your chair, well the rules dont matter then.

I play whatever game the room is playing and by whatever rules you want to go by, lets just play!
 
I find that when I'm about to gamble I try to go over 8 ball rules and they say something like "Let's play pool!"

I just gave up gambling at 8 ball because there are too many different rule discrepancies.
 
Jodacus said:
After reading how everyone really dislikes
the variety of 8 ball bar rules I'm really surprised!

I've played in all over the world and have thoroughly
enjoyed learning and playing by the local rules.

Even when there was no common language and I
would point to and motion the movement of the
cue ball, then make the OK sign with my hand,
people usually understood what I was asking.

It was even more fun to try to grasp the rules by
their hand signs, facial expressions and gestures.

I have had some wonderfully fun times with this
and look forward to future opportunities. We always
worked it out and no one ever got angry.The home
guys really seemed to enjoy it too.

T guess I'm the only one !
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If I was traveling and out having fun in a small town, or another country, the local 8-ball bar rules wouldn't bother me either.
I'm not going to play pool in a local bar here in Denver where they have their own rules, and the place is not a pool bar.
For me, unless you're traveling, playing girls, or BCA rules, bar pool is no fun at all.
I like to play pool in bars, but when you have to play by rules made up by a bunch of weenie's, it takes the fun out of it.
Calling every kiss, rail, no defense, no ball in hand, epic fights, it's like hillbilly pool.
A lot of bars let you call a "split" if two balls are close together.
"I'm gonna split-em".
 
I don't mind the different rules because both players are playing by them. What I hate is when you ask them the rules and they only give you the partial answer, then somewhere during a set on some crucial shot they come out with some off-the-wall BS rule that nobody in the world (except the regulars at THAT particular poolroom/bar) has ever heard of.

I hate it when it seems as though they are making up some of the rules "on the fly".

To make 8-ball more interesting between good players, I think the "last pocket" format is the way to go, imo.

Maniac
 
Jodacus said:
After reading how everyone really dislikes
the variety of 8 ball bar rules I'm really surprised!

I've played in all over the world and have thoroughly
enjoyed learning and playing by the local rules.

Even when there was no common language and I
would point to and motion the movement of the
cue ball, then make the OK sign with my hand,
people usually understood what I was asking.

It was even more fun to try to grasp the rules by
their hand signs, facial expressions and gestures.

I have had some wonderfully fun times with this
and look forward to future opportunities. We always
worked it out and no one ever got angry.The home
guys really seemed to enjoy it too.

T guess I'm the only one !
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You got the right attitude, variety is the spice of life.

I really don't see why some get so upset over this. As long as both players know the rules before the game starts I can't see why there would be a problem. The real problem isn't the rules, I think it's people who are unwilling to change or compromise. Their loss.
 
Personally, I think it's fun and interesting to play by the variety of rules we find when traveling.

I have played pool in a number of countries, I think nine or so, and found it quite interesting. It does not bother me at all. It does not bother me when I find different rules locally either. Just play that way. It makes you think that's for sure.

A couple weeks ago I was playing with a guy from Puerto Rico. He used "our" rules because he was playing here locally. He was telling me about how they play, but honestly I don't remember what he said because we didn't play that way. What I do remember is that what he told me was very different from what we typically play.

If you are bored with eight ball, try somebody else's rules!

A long time ago I used to get fussy about such things. Thought I simply knew better than these bar room bangers. I got over that a long time ago.




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Cdryden said:
You got the right attitude, variety is the spice of life.

I really don't see why some get so upset over this. As long as both players know the rules before the game starts I can't see why there would be a problem. The real problem isn't the rules, I think it's people who are unwilling to change or compromise. Their loss.
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That is the issue, both players rarely know what the rules are if they are not using the same standard. I just played in an 8-ball tournament last night, guy missed a ball, it banked across to another pocket and counted. I called a safe and made a ball, perfectly legal in the standard rules for 8-ball, he said I had to keep shooting because I made a ball. There is no way you can have every rule like that laid out before the match, and most people won't ever understand what you are asking if you ask them if something is legal before you shoot it.

This is why I say away from people that only play in the APA or in bars, you can never find 2 that agree on what the rules are.
 
Cdryden said:
You got the right attitude, variety is the spice of life.

I really don't see why some get so upset over this. As long as both players know the rules before the game starts I can't see why there would be a problem. The real problem isn't the rules, I think it's people who are unwilling to change or compromise. Their loss.
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If you're just talking about going out to a bar with some chicks or your buddies, and having your own table, who cares what the rules are.
Looking at it from a just having fun standpoint, I would rather play video bowling or golf.
Like I said before, I've played a lot of bar pool, I've seen a lot of fights, and it's not about being unwilling to compromise.
I am barely an A player, and if I am in a bar serious about playing pool, and you have to play by their bar rules, it's not going to end well.
Everybody quits, or somebody gets pissed off, because anyone better than me would not want to play by those rules.
When the founding fathers wrote the rules of bar pool, they should of had a section about gentlemens pool, and respect for the other guys
quarter that was obviously put up first...:smile:
 
hang-the-9 said:
That is the issue, both players rarely know what the rules are if they are not using the same standard. I just played in an 8-ball tournament last night, guy missed a ball, it banked across to another pocket and counted. I called a safe and made a ball, perfectly legal in the standard rules for 8-ball, he said I had to keep shooting because I made a ball. There is no way you can have every rule like that laid out before the match, and most people won't ever understand what you are asking if you ask them if something is legal before you shoot it.

This is why I say away from people that only play in the APA or in bars, you can never find 2 that agree on what the rules are.
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It's true that those problems will come up but it's just a matter of dealing with them in a good way when it happens. It's your choice to do it or not and I understand why you prefer not to, but to say someone is wrong for their way probably wont fix the problem. It sounds like you are doing what works for you, finding someone more compatible to play against.


Now, if someone is making rules up in the middle of the game just to get an advantage over you that is a different matter in which case the rules don't even matter anyway since that person would simply find another way to cheat.

And as far as "both players rarely know what the rules are", I have found that in most pool halls that I have been to, most of the players I have played against do know the rules. And those who don't are usually willing to listen.
 
You can't change 'em.

Like Maniac says "both players play
by the same rules". If I can beat them
the rule set won't make much difference.

If they are gonna cheat by trying to use
rules then they are gonna cheat by other
ways also, so it's time to quit.

I got more important things to worry about
than a couple of quarters or even a sawbuck.

Then ignore the table and the players, at the
end of the night I'm still me and they are who
they are.

I'm good with that.
 
For the most part I am in agreement with the assertion of accepting status qou in regard of an establishments rule set. I get that fitting into situations is much more acceptable than visa versa. What happens when rules change unexpectedly ? Last night I was called a cheater, along with a few expletives, because I caromed my ball off the eight, and EVERYONE knows the eight can't be played off of and I'm at wits end trying to explain otherwise. Point is, to say you can play without controversy, is not always doable. Sometimes your talkin' to the hand. A few weeks ago, a confrontation occurred over calling a ball to follow another ball in the pocket, and again EVERYONE knows your ball has to go in first or you lose your turn ! I don't know where they come up with this stuff, but when it crops up midstream, seems like trouble follows.
 
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