I have to agree with your post with one exception. Golf has far more people searching for the magic club, especially putters and the next new instruction fad. I am actually pretty good at golf and have used the same clubs for years, while most of the people at my club are not very good and switch clubs all of the time. I would imagine the skilled players stick with there equipment in pool just as in golf. However people that struggle are trying to buy a a better game. Just my observation.
I think people go way too far worrying about equipment
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get yourself an OB1 shaft and you'll be running out from everywhere
You should practice up and participate in one of the bigger events like the US Open... the conditions there are usually pretty nice.
I'm guilty of it .
When I first started last year at this time I bought two Scorpion Cues and a Scorpion Case worked great for about six months when I figured I'd get a Mcdermott cue played with that for a few months .
Then I figured I'd buy a Predator BK2 and a 314 2 shaft for the Mcdermott played alot better pool , then I buy another Break shaft to see if i could improve my break .
And of course I wasn't happy with my case and Bought a Jack Justis case , which I do love to death , but then again I just bought another cue , a Falcon and I'm really impressed . with and play alot better then a Mcd and predator shafts .
It's all preference and I've Learn my lession I'm going to stick with what I got and buy no more stuff .
Except a Delta 13 rack I'm so tired of the Sardo Rack I'm ready to puke If anyone needs one I've got one for cheap .
So all in all there's a list of what I'm bought and spend .
Two Scorpion cues - 200
Scorpion Case -56
Mcdermott cue- 160
Predator BK2 - 395
2 Predator shafts -315
Jack Justis case -950
Falcon Cue -200
Over 22 hundered bucks worth of equipment and was it all needed ? NO
When I first started last year at this time I bought two Scorpion Cues and a Scorpion Case worked great for about six months when I figured I'd get a Mcdermott cue played with that for a few months .
Then I figured I'd buy a Predator BK2 and a 314 2 shaft for the Mcdermott played alot better pool , then I buy another Break shaft to see if i could improve my break .
And of course I wasn't happy with my case and Bought a Jack Justis case , which I do love to death , but then again I just bought another cue , a Falcon and I'm really impressed . with and play alot better then a Mcd and predator shafts .
It's all preference and I've Learn my lession I'm going to stick with what I got and buy no more stuff .
Except a Delta 13 rack I'm so tired of the Sardo Rack I'm ready to puke If anyone needs one I've got one for cheap .
So all in all there's a list of what I'm bought and spend .
Two Scorpion cues - 200
Scorpion Case -56
Mcdermott cue- 160
Predator BK2 - 395
2 Predator shafts -315
Jack Justis case -950
Falcon Cue -200
Over 22 hundered bucks worth of equipment and was it all needed ? NO
Donnie pretty much hit the nail on the head. It is a lot easier to play perfect when you have quality equipment and perfect enviroment. But like you say some people are obsessed with finding the missing link. They spend more time looking for it than playing and trying to improve their game. I guess they are looking for what most of us want instant gratification. As far as cues i love having other cues just because it may be a design or the woods that is appealing to me or prestige. I know that they are not going to improve my game. Thats why i have a main player and the rest stays in the case only to come out every once in a while.
Is it just Americans who are obsessed? Snooker players have one cue, keep it for decades.
Coming to this site one is baffled by:
The endless fascination with purported cue superiority correlating to the complexity of design
The refusal to create a governing organization and the *****ing about the lack of coordination that results from no organization.
The distain for coaching and formal training - A different cue will fix my game; lessons won't.
Coming to this site one is baffled by:
The endless fascination with purported cue superiority correlating to the complexity of design
The refusal to create a governing organization and the *****ing about the lack of coordination that results from no organization.
The distain for coaching and formal training - A different cue will fix my game; lessons won't.
Threads like this never cease to amaze me. All of you talk about cues, chalk, tips, break cues etc.....and ALL of you over look the most important part of this game, the tables you play on. Most of you wouldn't know a decent table if it bit you in the ass, but you know all ABOUT cues, tips, chalk and everything else when it comes to GOOD equipment. Yet you still play on the crap pool tables I've seen every where in this country, in bars, pool rooms, and any where else you want to mention. Do NOTHING to raise the bar when it comes to the standards of pool tables, then cry about how pool is on the decline....BUT spend money on GOOD equipment...so you can go play on crap pool tables...WOW!
Not ONE of you have even mentioned a single pool table in your LIST of equipment, other than PLAY the conditions, such as weather, humidity and such. How about tables with dead rails, loose cloth, wrong cushions, low/high cushions.
You guys are so lost when it comes to "Good Equipment" it's a joke
Keep supporting locations that have junk to play on, maybe that's why your game will never improve. Play on Diamond tables and love them, then go back and stick quarters in the tables that play like junk, instead of telling the table owners to get better tables, and you'll be back, with your good playing equipment!
Glen
Not ONE of you have even mentioned a single pool table in your LIST of equipment, other than PLAY the conditions, such as weather, humidity and such. How about tables with dead rails, loose cloth, wrong cushions, low/high cushions.
You guys are so lost when it comes to "Good Equipment" it's a joke
Keep supporting locations that have junk to play on, maybe that's why your game will never improve. Play on Diamond tables and love them, then go back and stick quarters in the tables that play like junk, instead of telling the table owners to get better tables, and you'll be back, with your good playing equipment!Glen
Threads like this never cease to amaze me. All of you talk about cues, chalk, tips, break cues etc.....and ALL of you over look the most important part of this game, the tables you play on. Most of you wouldn't know a decent table if it bit you in the ass, but you know all ABOUT cues, tips, chalk and everything else when it comes to GOOD equipment. Yet you still play on the crap pool tables I've seen every where in this country, in bars, pool rooms, and any where else you want to mention. Do NOTHING to raise the bar when it comes to the standards of pool tables, then cry about how pool is on the decline....BUT spend money on GOOD equipment...so you can go play on crap pool tables...WOW!
Not ONE of you have even mentioned a single pool table in your LIST of equipment, other than PLAY the conditions, such as weather, humidity and such. How about tables with dead rails, loose cloth, wrong cushions, low/high cushions.
You guys are so lost when it comes to "Good Equipment" it's a joke
Glen
I think a couple people inferred as much... as I did when I mentioned the US Open, it's played on new Diamonds that are always set up well...
I used to drive past 3 pool rooms and an extra 20 minutes here in Raleigh to get to a place in Fuquay-Varina that had Diamonds.
I definitely agree with you on this one... I would rather play on a nice table with a house cue than on a shabby table with my Gina. :wink:
Threads like this never cease to amaze me. All of you talk about cues, chalk, tips, break cues etc.....and ALL of you over look the most important part of this game, the tables you play on. Most of you wouldn't know a decent table if it bit you in the ass, but you know all ABOUT cues, tips, chalk and everything else when it comes to GOOD equipment. Yet you still play on the crap pool tables I've seen every where in this country, in bars, pool rooms, and any where else you want to mention. Do NOTHING to raise the bar when it comes to the standards of pool tables, then cry about how pool is on the decline....BUT spend money on GOOD equipment...so you can go play on crap pool tables...WOW!
Not ONE of you have even mentioned a single pool table in your LIST of equipment, other than PLAY the conditions, such as weather, humidity and such. How about tables with dead rails, loose cloth, wrong cushions, low/high cushions.
You guys are so lost when it comes to "Good Equipment" it's a joke
Glen
Uhhh not all of you, I posted about the table but I didn't go into detail.
You are absolutely correct though! The table you play on makes such a difference that it is a joke. Some poolhalls that have decent 1000 added tournaments I won't even go play in because their tables play just awful! Matter of fact some play so bad that I can not... I repeat can not play near my speed and feel like I have 0% chance of winning. Funny if they had the tournament at a place with great equipment I'd bet even money I make it to the finals.
Threads like this never cease to amaze me. All of you talk about cues, chalk, tips, break cues etc.....and ALL of you over look the most important part of this game, the tables you play on. Most of you wouldn't know a decent table if it bit you in the ass, but you know all ABOUT cues, tips, chalk and everything else when it comes to GOOD equipment. Yet you still play on the crap pool tables I've seen every where in this country, in bars, pool rooms, and any where else you want to mention. Do NOTHING to raise the bar when it comes to the standards of pool tables, then cry about how pool is on the decline....BUT spend money on GOOD equipment...so you can go play on crap pool tables...WOW!
Not ONE of you have even mentioned a single pool table in your LIST of equipment, other than PLAY the conditions, such as weather, humidity and such. How about tables with dead rails, loose cloth, wrong cushions, low/high cushions.
You guys are so lost when it comes to "Good Equipment" it's a joke
Glen
glen diamond tables play the best for sure.
but why do some of the diamond bar ables bounce so hard?
i cant play on them when they bounce so hard.
Table wise for me. 1. Every rail plays the same... no dead rails or springy rails. 2. Balls are the same size and clean. 3. Diamond tables I like because most gold crowns are a little lower to the ground. 4.No gaff pockets. 5. I've never played on a diamond that has a gaff pocket, only other brands. 6.Tables shouldn't be scrunched up together... So when you are in rhythm you don't have to stop every other shot for the guy on the other table to finish.
The worst for me is when I have to try and remember which rails on a table are dead and which ones are springy. A lot of people don't even realize what junky tables they play on which are so bad for their game. I was one of those people for many years.
i think equiptment is important but this is IMO, pool is such a mental game and if in your mind you feel that a cue or tip or weight, balance of a cue whatever it may be can give you the confidence to put the cue ball where intended or making certain shots than it becomes a huge part, look at some golfers they buy new clubs every year cause they can gain a few extra yards when driving or using irons etc. i myself have played with many diffrent cues, some i like more than others mainly because it gives me better feedback and confidence. i have also played really well at times with a house cue or whatever is available, but when im under pressure i like to have a cue that just feels good and i know what i can and cant do with it. not sure if i explained myself well but anyway just my .02 cents.
Glens right , we are complaining about all cues and tips , chalk and what not and we are forget about the tables , I know i've done my fare stare of complaining but he's right .
There's only two decent tables in my area that's it , the rest are junk . It's a shame that most place's don't take care of the tables , and the reason why is they just think about the cash there making off of the booze, instead of having good tables for people to play and want to get better .
There's only two decent tables in my area that's it , the rest are junk . It's a shame that most place's don't take care of the tables , and the reason why is they just think about the cash there making off of the booze, instead of having good tables for people to play and want to get better .
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I am absolutely in love with this game! I am intrigued by little details about the game. I searched for my Missing Link cue for 2 years. In that time I got to play with a ton of cues so I really learned about my game in that time. The Missing Link cue is a cue that suits your playing style, body structure, deflection preference, etc. Once you find it, that cue gives you so much confidence because that's one less thing to worry about.
I agree with you Glen about the tables. Playing on a sub par table is such a bummer. GCI II, Anniversary, Centennial or Diamond set up by a master mechanic is not negotiable!
I agree with you Glen about the tables. Playing on a sub par table is such a bummer. GCI II, Anniversary, Centennial or Diamond set up by a master mechanic is not negotiable!
I'll chip my 2 pence in here.
I'll admit that I like to have extra things to go with my cue and case. I have a tip pik and a few sheets of sandpaper and a cue towel etc...
I have these things because pool is my hobby and as my dad always said "be thrifty with money on everything BUT your hobby. When it comes to your hobby, NEVER hold back". This is my 'me time' so I don't think twice about buying a new gadget if its a well made product. Sometime I just like to see what idea someone has come up with.
I agree there are people who take equipment far too far but I'm guessing there may also be a lot of people just like me who are open to new things but don't obsess over them.
As long as my cue is straight and smooth, my tip is meaty and well shaped, and my case protects my cue then I'm happy. Mind you, i have mixed my own shaft compound, built a shaft spinner for tipping and customised the tits out of my case but that's me lol.
Happy shooting,
I'll admit that I like to have extra things to go with my cue and case. I have a tip pik and a few sheets of sandpaper and a cue towel etc...
I have these things because pool is my hobby and as my dad always said "be thrifty with money on everything BUT your hobby. When it comes to your hobby, NEVER hold back". This is my 'me time' so I don't think twice about buying a new gadget if its a well made product. Sometime I just like to see what idea someone has come up with.
I agree there are people who take equipment far too far but I'm guessing there may also be a lot of people just like me who are open to new things but don't obsess over them.
As long as my cue is straight and smooth, my tip is meaty and well shaped, and my case protects my cue then I'm happy. Mind you, i have mixed my own shaft compound, built a shaft spinner for tipping and customised the tits out of my case but that's me lol.
Happy shooting,
that is the be all end all to this question. if someone feels great with a house cue that has decent tip he can beat the hell out of a guy with a cue that cost four grand. i play with a custom cue, have an instroke case loaded with shapers and scuffers, blue master chalk ('cause that's my favorite) and all kinds of other stuff and i can barely get above a "c" level. on the other hand there is an older guy i shoot with sometimes for a buck or two a game who plays with any house cue he grabs off the wall and he runs racks on me constantly. but i have my stuff and it makes me comfortable and i have been getting steadilly better playing with it.
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Why do we keep searching for magic, that perfect cue? Being right handed I feel maybe I've been playing with a left handed cue all these years. But I keep searching go figure. :wink: