Ideas that haven't saved pool

[Cameron Smith]

Matchroom does not have all the majors. The don't have the China Open, the All-Japan Championship, or the International 9-ball, three of the highest profile events in our sport.

I think it may be their intention to establish their events as THE majors. If you follow the triple crown format of snooker, the US Open, WPM, and World Championships are reasonable parallels to the Masters, UK Championships, and World Championships.

 

[Black-Balled]

WTF are you talking about? I lived in Sacramento for less than a year over 20 years ago. Having a conversation with you is like playing cards with my brother's kids...

Isn't it fascinating to think about what it's like to live in cacaballer's head?

 

[realkingcobra]

Matchroom does not have all the majors. The don't have the China Open, the All-Japan Championship, or the International 9-ball, three of the highest profile events in our sport.

Or DCC

 

[benjaminwah]

Here's something to think about, as it pertains to ROKU as well.

Though the streaming giant has plenty of sports shows and documentaries at its disposal, it has traditionally steered away from live sports. Historically, Netflix's position on the subject has been pretty firm. In 2018, Netflix's Vice President of business development in Europe, Middle East and Africa, Maria Ferreras, outright told Variety that there were no plans to invest on live sports broadcasting because the company likely couldn't bring anything extra to the table in that content realm.

"I think in terms of live sports there's nothing we can do differently from a television broadcaster, so it doesn't add additional value," Ferreras explained. "You can never say never, but there's no plans to go into that

Read More: https://www.looper.com/244128/the-real-reason-theres-no-live-sports-on-netflix/?utm_campaign=clip

The advantage to going to Netflix or ROKU is to get NEW viewers and people interested. A subscription based service for people already into pool wouldn't grow the sport substantially. Shit, do both!

 

[benjaminwah]

And if anyone from Accustats or CSI wants to get on ROKU PLEASE contact me. I'll hook you up with my friend there.

 

[realkingcobra]

The advantage to going to Netflix or ROKU is to get NEW viewers and people interested. A subscription based service for people already into pool wouldn't grow the sport substantially. Shit, do both!

Didn't you read that Netflix isn't interested in live sports? And ROKU, how would they compete with all the free pool viewers on YouTube??

 

[realkingcobra]

And if anyone from Accustats or CSI wants to get on ROKU PLEASE contact me. I'll hook you up with my friend there.

Is ROKU going to pay the content provider for views like YouTube does, or just offer everyone a platform to load up pool videos on with no chance of making a dime?

 

[realkingcobra]

And if anyone from Accustats or CSI wants to get on ROKU PLEASE contact me. I'll hook you up with my friend there.

I've already been down the ROKU road, unless they can make money, they're not interested, which is why they have all kinds of movies you can watch on the ROKU channel for free, because they're advertising supported.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

Isn't it fascinating to think about what it's like to live in cacaballer's head?

Maybe you time would be better spent help RKC, I am sure she would apprieciate your wealth of wisdom.

 

[justnum]

Has anyone tried a pool tournament where you buy chips and then gamble during matches with various opponents? At the end of the tournaments the chips can be cashed in.

The purpose of having chips during the match is so players can woof woof.
Imagine during a match players are allowed to wager chips if they can or can't make shots with their opponent.
Chris Robinson can finally get revenge on Eklent Kaci.

It adds a mental aspect to the game.

 

[realkingcobra]

Has anyone tried a pool tournament where you buy chips and then gamble during matches with various opponents? At the end of the tournaments the chips can be cashed in.

The purpose of having chips during the match is so players can woof woof.
Imagine during a match players are allowed to wager chips if they can or can't make shots with their opponent.
Chris Robinson can finally get revenge on Eklent Kaci.

It adds a mental aspect to the game.

Well, here's a question for you, who are you buying the chips from?

 

[realkingcobra]

Has anyone tried a pool tournament where you buy chips and then gamble during matches with various opponents? At the end of the tournaments the chips can be cashed in.

The purpose of having chips during the match is so players can woof woof.
Imagine during a match players are allowed to wager chips if they can or can't make shots with their opponent.
Chris Robinson can finally get revenge on Eklent Kaci.

It adds a mental aspect to the game.

Just to you're aware, gambling on any POOL TABLE in ANY casino is illegal.

 

[justnum]

Just to you're aware, gambling on any POOL TABLE in ANY casino is illegal.

at home purchases and online purchases are through the roof

the players dont have to gamble, they can have their fans, while they argue and stall for time.

digitally its a one time flash auction.

let fans spend money on their favorites.

 

[doitforthegame]

I'll offer two ideas that didn't work, one from men's pool and one from women's pool, and both in the late 1990s.

Men's Pro Pool: The Camel Tour
In the late 1990's, RJ Reynolds got involved with pool as a means of promoting their primary brand of Cigarettes called "Camel" to pool players and fans, who, as a group, consumed more than their fair share of cigarettes. Only the old timers among us will remember some of the more interesting ways that Camel tried to use the pro pool scene to promote their brand:

1) The giant glass ball above the table that had the table number on it also had a picture of a camel.
2) The felt used in Camel Tour events was camel-colored, meaning a very light brown
3) Camel would set up a booth in which you could trade in a pack of the cigarettes you preferred for two packs of Camel cigarettes

In the end, these ideas didn't stimulate much demand for their product and RJ Reynolds pulled the plug.

Women's Pro Pool - The Gordon's Events
Gordon's, a major manufacturer of gin and vodka, got involved with the WPBA in the late 1990's. On the surface, it made some sense as pool players tend to drink more than most. Their events were known as Gordon's events. One thing I remember in particular was that if one of the players made the nine on the break, the first fan to yell out "Gordon's" won something (I can't remember what as I never won). The plan never gained much traction and Gordon's didn't last long on the pool scene.

Hence, what hasn't worked is using pool to sell cigarettes and alcohol.

Still have my Camel Pro Tour press pass from my old "All About Pool" days.

 

[realkingcobra]

at home purchases and online purchases are through the roof

the players dont have to gamble, they can have their fans, while they argue and stall for time.

digitally its a one time flash auction.

let fans spend money on their favorites.

Wrong again, no betting on pool is allowed in any casino, that included online wagering!!

 

[benjaminwah]

Didn't you read that Netflix isn't interested in live sports? And ROKU, how would they compete with all the free pool viewers on YouTube??

Not saying show Mosconi Cup when it’s live, I’m saying post the old matches, especially the ones from the last few years. The last one Dennis Hatch was in had plenty of drama. They have great quality, player interviews etc more than just the pool matches themselves.

 

[realkingcobra]

Not saying show Mosconi Cup when it’s live, I’m saying post the old matches, especially the ones from the last few years. The last one Dennis Hatch was in had plenty of drama. They have great quality, player interviews etc more than just the pool matches themselves.

Here's the problem, only one table is used to record on, and not all matches are saved afterwards, and they're still free to watch on YouTube, so who's going to turn around and start showing old matches on a paid streaming platform for free....oh, wait a minute, what about having to pay image rights to the players now....no chance of happening!!

 

[realkingcobra]

Not saying show Mosconi Cup when it’s live, I’m saying post the old matches, especially the ones from the last few years. The last one Dennis Hatch was in had plenty of drama. They have great quality, player interviews etc more than just the pool matches themselves.

Here's a question for you. When people post matches on the YouTube channel, and get enough viewer clicks to get paid some money from advertisers....do you think those players being watched, should be paid some kind of compensation for providing the entertainment so many like watching for free? After all, the person who posted the match did so in order make money!!

 

[middleofnowhere]

Here's a question for you. When people post matches on the YouTube channel, and get enough viewer clicks to get paid some money from advertisers....do you think those players being watched, should be paid some kind of compensation for providing the entertainment so many like watching for free? After all, the person who posted the match did so in order make money!!

How is that actually, aren't there some kind of copyright? Who owns the rights.

 

[sjm]

Still have my Camel Pro Tour press pass from my old "All About Pool" days.

Sweet. I still have a PBT logo sweatshirt and I also still have my entry badge from IPT Las Vegas in 2006 --- somewhere.