So , if you could have any table for free to have at your home, which table would you pick for your dream table and why?
If you could have any table for free???
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I'll want a Golden Crown 4 or 5, I like that classical design. But here in Europe, I'll be happy with a Dynamic II table.
I would pick a Brunswick 9' Metro, second choice 9' Diamond. Tomorrow my picks might swap places, either one of those tables are a winner.--Smitty
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Brunswick gold crown 5, and it would just about trump any table on this planet.....they play so good it's sick; when set up and worked on right. if Brunswick cared about pool as much as diamond does; burnswick might have a advantage in the industry and diamond might not of ever been around if it wasn't for Brunswicks slacking in that area because they "Brunswick" had there eyes set on other" bigger money markets.
Greg Sullivan was on a mission to build a good looking and playing table...after many years of improvement and the quest for a pro table and could be used in tournament and transported,moved,maintain and stored and still have the ability to play maintain the integrity of a pro calibre table..
After years of Greg customer complains and question to Greg of why the tables wouldn't take shots the way the tables they" the players" were used to and shorting up and boinging off the cushions...
That's when Greg hit some balls on a table that played dead nuts ' and he asked the guy what he did that made it play so well and the reply he got was;from the mechanic; -I baisicly used Brunswick rail specs on steroids....... Diamond changed the rails to the blue label rails with a few other upgrades to the frame/leveling system over the years making it more versatile than the gold crown being the table will not require complete disassembly to be transported.
I've heard people say I want my GC to play like a newer diamond, when on a diamond its basically Brunswick a GC and of course the frame is different but the tables play identical except in the pocket due to the angle and slate shelf. Diamond uses a different approach to anchoring the rails to the slate in which improves the rails consistent play quite well.
If Brunswick would of not crapped out when they did the tables would be much better today. Brunswick is lucky they got the work done when they did when designing the GC5 before they "Brunswicks pool table branch" fell apart and put a hault to many projects in progress...
Which company is better.....? It depends on at which angle your looking at it from....
Looking at it from a pool players view diamond has the advantage, diamond has the moving forward momentum in the quest of building the perfect table.
Brunswick got to comfortable in my opinion in which made them neglect the billiards department......Brunswick gold crown has my vote but second choice will be a diamond.
Rob.M
Brunswick gold crown 5, and it would just about trump any table on this planet.....they play so good it's sick; when set up and worked on right. if Brunswick cared about pool as much as diamond does; burnswick might have a advantage in the industry and diamond might not of ever been around if it wasn't for Brunswicks slacking in that area because they "Brunswick" had there eyes set on other" bigger money markets.
Greg Sullivan was on a mission to build a good looking and playing table...after many years of improvement and the quest for a pro table and could be used in tournament and transported,moved,maintain and stored and still have the ability to play maintain the integrity of a pro calibre table..
After years of Greg customer complains and question to Greg of why the tables wouldn't take shots the way the tables they" the players" were used to and shorting up and boinging off the cushions...
That's when Greg hit some balls on a table that played dead nuts ' and he asked the guy what he did that made it play so well and the reply he got was;from the mechanic; -I baisicly used Brunswick rail specs on steroids....... Diamond changed the rails to the blue label rails with a few other upgrades to the frame/leveling system over the years making it more versatile than the gold crown being the table will not require complete disassembly to be transported.
I've heard people say I want my GC to play like a newer diamond, when on a diamond its basically Brunswick a GC and of course the frame is different but the tables play identical except in the pocket due to the angle and slate shelf. Diamond uses a different approach to anchoring the rails to the slate in which improves the rails consistent play quite well.
If Brunswick would of not crapped out when they did the tables would be much better today. Brunswick is lucky they got the work done when they did when designing the GC5 before they "Brunswicks pool table branch" fell apart and put a hault to many projects in progress...
Which company is better.....? It depends on at which angle your looking at it from....
Looking at it from a pool players view diamond has the advantage, diamond has the moving forward momentum in the quest of building the perfect table.
Brunswick got to comfortable in my opinion in which made them neglect the billiards department......Brunswick gold crown has my vote but second choice will be a diamond.
Rob.M
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gloss black GC IV
Favorite table !
Tell me this issa raffle/giveaway/ random act of kindness right ?!?
You DID just hit the LOTTO right ?
I'll take this one without a second thought.............
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=302833&highlight=Centennial
Read the link: Diamond tables are nice but,.......................
Tell me this issa raffle/giveaway/ random act of kindness right ?!?
You DID just hit the LOTTO right ?
I'll take this one without a second thought.............
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=302833&highlight=Centennial
Read the link: Diamond tables are nice but,.......................
7ft Valley Panther zd-x black on bronze color with ridge-back rails with a nice green simonis 860 cloth. why would i want this over anything else. 2 reasons space and play ability. I grew up on 7ft tables most people I know play on them there fun and easy to learn on and there not intimidating for the newbie. space is the second reason I can all my friends gather in my garage drink shoot and have fun it's like my own mini bar.
Diamond......best playing table out there imo.
I'll take two, a diamond 7' and a diamond 9'. All bases covered. Now if I only had a house to put them in…
+1 to this...having them both would cover all games I want to play as well as any training I want to do. The pockets are just about the perfect toughness that can help my game so I don't just start firing balls too hard.
I like the way the Diamonds play, as far as pockets. I agree with the comment about the rails playing short, but understand Diamond has worked on this.
Here is an off topic question for you, other than styling, what's the difference between the Diamand Pro-Am, the Professional and the Paragon? I think the Pro-Ams are pretty ugly, but the Professional looks real nice. And the Paragon looks very nice.
thanks
Fatz
Here is an off topic question for you, other than styling, what's the difference between the Diamand Pro-Am, the Professional and the Paragon? I think the Pro-Ams are pretty ugly, but the Professional looks real nice. And the Paragon looks very nice.
thanks
Fatz
Properly installed, they all play the same.
Pro-Ams have a ball return system and are made for a 1-piece slate. Pro-Ams are popular for tournaments because they can be moved quickly; the legs come off and the entire bed moves as one piece.
The Professional and Paragon are both drop pocket tables and have a leveling system made for 3 piece slate. The only differences between the the two are styling, price and the type of wood they are available in. Any table that has Dymondwood rails will not have the rounded corners because it's so hard on the tools.
Rob, think about this for moment. If Brunswick had it right as yout put it, and Diamond copied Brunswick's design, then that means I shouldn't be able to take a brand new GC and make it play better than it was built, right? Diamond is not using the same spec's as Brunswick does, and I'll clear that up for you. Brunswick's down angle for mounting the cushions is 23.5 degrees bevel, with a sub-rail thickness of over 1 11/16" thick. Diamond's is 24.5 degrees down angle, with an exact 1 11/16" thick sub-rail. Diamond's pocket angles are 141/102 with a 15 degee down angle. Brunswick's are 142/104 with a 13 degee down angle, but most of the miter angles in the pockets are inconsistant, meaning not the same from corner pocket to corner pocket, as well as in the side pockets, so you don't really know what they are.
So now, where is the "copy" of Brunswick's design that has made the Diamond's play so much better today? The table mechanic that told you Diamond copied Brunswick was wrong
Glen
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