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alstl

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Why don't I see cues where the butt is made of one solid piece of wood? Just a piece of Maple, Bocote, Ebony or whatever with a bumper on one end and a joint on the other.

Do they tend to warp easier, balance point in the wrong place, or is it just that people like points and inlays for the looks?
 
alstl said:
Why don't I see cues where the butt is made of one solid piece of wood? Just a piece of Maple, Bocote, Ebony or whatever with a bumper on one end and a joint on the other.

Do they tend to warp easier, balance point in the wrong place, or is it just that people like points and inlays for the looks?
i've seen some cues as you're desribing at dennis dieckmans
i'm sure there are others who do it too, but, offhand, i dont know whoelse
 
I've built some like that. People just don't often request them.
I've got a friend who build almost every cue he makes like that.
 
I build several cues like that. All are nice & solid & play great, no disadvantages from my point of view. They just seem to be kinda plain unless nicely figured.
 
alstl said:
Why don't I see cues where the butt is made of one solid piece of wood? Just a piece of Maple, Bocote, Ebony or whatever with a bumper on one end and a joint on the other.

Do they tend to warp easier, balance point in the wrong place, or is it just that people like points and inlays for the looks?

The only wood that I have had good luck with, by making a 1 piece butt is BACOTE. I still make these...JER
 
Bocote would be good,Purpleheart would be good,Bubinga or Zircote and certain pieces of Rosewood would all work fine.like Erci said though unless the wood is special it will be rather plain looking.
 
alstl said:
Why don't I see cues where the butt is made of one solid piece of wood? Just a piece of Maple, Bocote, Ebony or whatever with a bumper on one end and a joint on the other.

Do they tend to warp easier, balance point in the wrong place, or is it just that people like points and inlays for the looks?


IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION :

I believe you answered you own question regarding the warpage of the butt, it seems that one-piece butts tend to be a little more sensitive to warping than a 2-piece does...

I think "Mohawk cues" were nortorious for building solid 1-piece butts.

Also I believe that you do get a more solid response or report from the hit as well with a solid butt rather than a jointed one...

I have built quite a few cues using the 1-piece method with several different woods and have had wonderful results with them all.... the pimary key is properly aging the woods to insure every precaution to avoid disasterous longterm results....

I hope this helps.....


- Eddie Wheat 321-631-1827
 
Huebler made some one piece butt cues, but not to many. Also remember that you have less options to adjust the balance of the cue to meet customer demands and personal preference.
 
WheatCues said:
Also I believe that you do get a more solid response or report from the hit as well with a solid butt rather than a jointed one...

I have built quite a few cues using the 1-piece method with several different woods and have had wonderful results with them all.... the pimary key is properly aging the woods to insure every precaution to avoid disasterous longterm results....

WOW-what a great response. Your unique contributions to cuemaking will not go unnoticed!!
 
The biggest disadvantage to one piece butts is finding the right weight wood. Even among Purple Heart, Bocote, Wenge and Rosewoods you find many too heavy to make a 19 ounce cue out of. So I use titanium pins and do what I can to hit the desired weight. If I can't hit the weight I cut it up and add maple in the handle. One piece butts hit solid and if aged right and correct wood is used, they are no more prone to warping than uncored jointed butts. Inlaid up nice and you can build them up pretty fancy. You only lose the fancy rings at the ends of the wrap. Other than that the sky is the limit as far as looks go. Brazilian Iron Wood will make a good one piece butt and is not as heavy as American Desert Iron wood. I have a few pieces of it that have been partially turned down for several years, just waiting for the right person to say how they want them finished.
 
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