I'm Not a Top player but...

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

Burn all jump cues
Silver Member
While I think that most of the aiming systems are useful up to a point, they are not going to make you a champion. I believe there are many pool players that are like “Bones” on TV. She feels if it can’t be proven it’s not fact. The fact of all aiming systems are that they are based on no spin on the QB. I think we all know that you sometimes need some amount of spin for position on the next shot unless you always play perfect position. Not even top pros play perfect position for every next ball. So now you have to adjust your aiming point for the spin. Adjusting=feel. No matter how you dress it up, or what word you call it you need feel to pocket a lot of shots. Only way to get that perfect feel is to pocket 500 or more balls a day for a long time. Johnnyt
 
I see aiming systems as a training tool.I never seriously tried any of the methods but I understand a few of them.I was having trouble pocketing a certain cut shot,I just couldn't see the pocket,so I changed the way I looked at the shot(ghost ball) and was able to see the pocket and make the shot.
 
I have it from an inside source that aiming systems (especially CTE) were invented by pros in order to keep those looking for a magic bullet from becoming a threat.

;)
 
Johnnyt said:
While I think that most of the aiming systems are useful up to a point, they are not going to make you a champion. I believe there are many pool players that are like “Bones” on TV. She feels if it can’t be proven it’s not fact. The fact of all aiming systems are that they are based on no spin on the QB. I think we all know that you sometimes need some amount of spin for position on the next shot unless you always play perfect position. Not even top pros play perfect position for every next ball. So now you have to adjust your aiming point for the spin. Adjusting=feel. No matter how you dress it up, or what word you call it you need feel to pocket a lot of shots. Only way to get that perfect feel is to pocket 500 or more balls a day for a long time. Johnnyt[/QUOTE

JohnnyT; JUST BE VERY CAREFUL! You might not get what you ask for!;)

Bill Smith :Mr3Cushion"
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
Johnnyt said:
While I think that most of the aiming systems are useful up to a point, they are not going to make you a champion. I believe there are many pool players that are like “Bones” on TV. She feels if it can’t be proven it’s not fact. The fact of all aiming systems are that they are based on no spin on the QB. I think we all know that you sometimes need some amount of spin for position on the next shot unless you always play perfect position. Not even top pros play perfect position for every next ball. So now you have to adjust your aiming point for the spin. Adjusting=feel. No matter how you dress it up, or what word you call it you need feel to pocket a lot of shots. Only way to get that perfect feel is to pocket 500 or more balls a day for a long time. Johnnyt
Click to expand...

And the truth will set you free:thumbup:
 
"...The fact of all aiming systems are that they are based on no spin on the QB...."
Johnnyt

I have seen posted here on AZ that a slight amount of outside english on the CB will help reduce "cut induced throw" (CIT). CIT will steer the OB off of the geometrically correct line/angle.

It works for me.
FWIW.
:)
 
Johnnyt said:
While I think that most of the aiming systems are useful up to a point, they are not going to make you a champion. I believe there are many pool players that are like “Bones” on TV. She feels if it can’t be proven it’s not fact. The fact of all aiming systems are that they are based on no spin on the QB. I think we all know that you sometimes need some amount of spin for position on the next shot unless you always play perfect position. Not even top pros play perfect position for every next ball. So now you have to adjust your aiming point for the spin. Adjusting=feel. No matter how you dress it up, or what word you call it you need feel to pocket a lot of shots. Only way to get that perfect feel is to pocket 500 or more balls a day for a long time. Johnnyt
Click to expand...

I learned something from watching people play online pool. There are a great many peple who can see the aim lines properly who rarely, if ever, play pool. There are championship gamers who play pool simulations who know exacly where to aim. They play at higher levels than any pro could ever play in reality, yet they are less than "C" players on a real table.

Pool is about fine turning our bodies to gain an ability to direct both balls precisely. I learned from playing pool online that the average Joe can see where to aim. It takes experience and practice to deliver both balls accurately using a variety of speeds and spins. It should be obvious but it seems to have eluded us that just because someone can "see" the shot doesn't mean they can judge it properly.

Chris
 
Last edited:
TATE said:
I learned something from watching people play online pool. There are a great many peple who can see the aim lines properly who rarely, if ever, play pool. There are championship gamers who play pool simulations who know exacly where to aim. They play at higher levels than any pro could ever play in reality, yet they are less than "C" players on a real table.

Pool is about fine turning our bodies to gain an ability to direct both balls precisely. I learned from playing pool online that the average Joe can see where to aim. It takes experience and practice to deliver both balls using a variety of speeds and spins.

Chris
Click to expand...

And the crowd goes wild............... as a CTB aimed ball gets knocked out of the ballpark.











CenterToBat
 
I never had a coach, took a lesson or saw a pro game until recently.

The billiard table was my home physics laboratory. I liked science class and I applied those methods to developing techniques on the pool table.

The scientific method is effective for me.

Collision state physics is an uncharted area of science much like the deep ocean floor.
 
Island Drive said:
Makes me wonder if there are supposid aming systems for golf....?
Click to expand...

Perhaps not called "aiming" systems.....but there are "alignment" systems in Golf.

I belive pool to be the same....A fundamental part of the game is "alignment"....If your alignment is not consistent...your shotmaking probably is not either.

I think somewhere along the line....pool players got confused with aim and alignment and somehow "aim" became more important than alignment.
 
Johnnyt said:
While I think that most of the aiming systems are useful up to a point, they are not going to make you a champion. I believe there are many pool players that are like “Bones” on TV. She feels if it can’t be proven it’s not fact. The fact of all aiming systems are that they are based on no spin on the QB. I think we all know that you sometimes need some amount of spin for position on the next shot unless you always play perfect position. Not even top pros play perfect position for every next ball. So now you have to adjust your aiming point for the spin. Adjusting=feel. No matter how you dress it up, or what word you call it you need feel to pocket a lot of shots. Only way to get that perfect feel is to pocket 500 or more balls a day for a long time. Johnnyt
Click to expand...

I agree with this in a way. An aiming system is a starting point and is needed to get people playing at an intermediate level. This is when people generally start to understand english better and then they can develop the feel. However, I think even after learning english and developing the feel, the aiming system is the basis for their whole routine.
 
You have to be able to replicate everything... the aim is no good without the routine to back it up... If you can't routinely put your body in the right position to get a straight stroke, and then deliver the cue ball to the exact contact point (with and without spin) as needed. You can have the best "Aiming System" in the world but without consistency it breaks down!! And I believe that to be the case for most players.
Watch how many times people miss when they juice up the ball. It is alittle out of the routine and that causes the breakdown.
Or at least that the way I see it..Or my excuse anyway! : )
Works for me!
 
Aiming Systems

I am convinced that all champions use aiming systems that is why they are champions. If you know what to look for you can see it when they shoot. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive.
 
Johnnyt said:
. The fact of all aiming systems are that they are based on no spin on the QB. I think we all know that you sometimes need some amount of spin for position on the next shot unless you always play perfect position. Not even top pros play perfect position for every next ball. So now you have to adjust your aiming point for the spin. Adjusting=feel. Johnnyt
Click to expand...

I don't think this is true. I have learned several aiming systems that are based on spin on the QB. For e.g. back hand english allows for as much spin as you want on the QB without altering the aiming point. Also I believe I learned it from CJ Wiley tapes years ago where I put a lot of spin but use his aiming system to hit an exact point on the object ball. A number of other aiming methods I have learned involve exact aiming points with a hair of inside english. I even have an aiming system where I can shoot a spot shot and send the cueball right back on the spot.

A lot of times feel is used for spin but it can also be done mechanically.
 
The ultimate aiming-system will not help anyone as long he hasn t got a repeatable straight stroke-

without advanced fundamentals you can also pray instead of using aim-systems.


lg
Ingo
 
champion player's aiming system follows:

get in the pit every night, you're broke and need to eat..... player hasn't missed a ball in 3 racks.... oh, this is that one shot he missed 3 nights ago hill hill for the cash.... he thinks to himself "i undercut it a hair last time.... i'll cut this one a tad more".... he hits center pocket and collects the cash..... repeat procedure every night for 10 years and you got the only aiming system that works.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top