I'm on TV tomorrow night! Court TV...10:30 PM EST

[Egg McDogit]

Lemme know if it's any good My friend and I may hit up the tourney again today..so maybe we'll see you there.

Egg McDogit, the show will be aired again tonight on Court TV, 11:30 p.m. to 12:00 midnight [EST, of course].

We were in Laurel, Keith and Brandon in the finals. My daughter recorded the episode for me via Comcast OnDemand last night, and I'm getting ready to watch it during my lunch hour today.

Looking forward to a little Orange Ball delight tonight at 8:00.

JAM

 

[JoeyInCali]

I also enjoyed it.
Melissa is a very good player. I've seen her put the shakes on Morro at Shooters. Morro had to give her slug racks to eek out a win.
More power to Melissa.

 

[yobagua]

If you realized this was fiction and not real then it was pretty good. The guy that played the "road hustler" is in real life married to a womens pro who is on the WPBA tour. So you know his "women dont belong in pool halls" bit was forced. While going over a little on the top as the "road hustler" I thought the two pool players gave fine performances. No one tried to over act as most non professional actors do. I thought they brought some reality to the role. Certainly it was good to see how real pool players run balls and can shoot a rack as opposed to Hollywood actors faking it. But it was the two pool players that made the show.
Melissa your honesty as a person came through and you had no attitude that people have when they try to act. This will be your strong point. Focus on that and you will really shine in addition to your pool playing ability.

 

[henho]

is it an established fact that the action was a set-up and not genuine? From what I understand that is just someone's conjecture, maybe Melissa can clear things up for us.

I personally thought the show was very entertaining, and can see how it would be interesting to the non-pool playing public as well.

 

[Billiard Architect]

is it an established fact that the action was a set-up and not genuine? From what I understand that is just someone's conjecture, maybe Melissa can clear things up for us.

I personally thought the show was very entertaining, and can see how it would be interesting to the non-pool playing public as well.

Lets see hustle money from the locals (which is what the owner was supposedly pissed about in the first place) to play a loud mouthed professed hustler (which I see at least 50 of them a night in a pool hall), get the weight (I mean a ton of bricks... 3 games in a race to 5?) win one, loose 3 goto to commercial come back and Melissa is breaking again? (My non-playing wife spotted this one, were they playing alternating breaks?) win the match by only winning 2 games to his 3 and that is going to send the hustler packin'. COME ON!!!!

The one thing that was obvious to me was if Melissa can walk into this hall and rip 1700 bucks out of the locals, that tells you how well someone can do in that place. Just because the "hustler" lost that day and has an opertunity to make another 1700 bucks tomorrow I would bet he is going to be sitting at the bar come 4:00 tomorrow afternoon.

No hit on Melissa I thought she did well in playing her part. Just the premise, storyline and editing of the show was (again) crap. I stuck in there for 2 shows but can guarentee that it will be removed from my TIVO season pass.

JV

 

[Timberly]

pinched from (JohnA(Kent,WA)) on RSB:
I did some further checking and found out that the episode "Shootout at Mr. Lucky's" will be aired at the following times.
6/26 @ 11:30P
6/27 @ 03:30A
6/29 @ 11:30P
6/30 @ 03:30A
7/02 @ 06:00P
Hope this helps
--
Now, John's in Washington state, so I don't know if that's east coast time or wrong coast time...

Thanks! I was a moron and set the VCR to record at the wrong time!

 

[chefjeff]

(snip)
I thought the two pool players gave fine performances. No one tried to over act as most non professional actors do. (snip).

If they want more good acting, they should get Keith M. on the show. Before I knew who he was, I was watching TCOM and I thought to myself, that Grady Seasons character actually shoots good pool, but he is also by far the best actor in the whole bunch, Cruise and Newman included. I'm serious. When I found out he was a real player, not an actor,I thought he should give it up and become a full-time actor.

Jennie, move him to Hollywood and get the hell out of fantasyland....I smell money out there.

Jeff Livingston

 

[Opie]

If they want more good acting, they should get Keith M. on the show. Before I knew who he was, I was watching TCOM and I thought to myself, that Grady Seasons character actually shoots good pool, but he is also by far the best actor in the whole bunch, Cruise and Newman included. I'm serious. When I found out he was a real player, not an actor,I thought he should give it up and become a full-time actor.

Jennie, move him to Hollywood and get the hell out of fantasyland....I smell money out there.

Jeff Livingston

You're right.The best line in the movie wasn't delivered by Newman or Cruise. It was Keith.
"Awww, you got lucky you lucky prick!"

 

[JAM]

If they want more good acting, they should get Keith M. on the show. Before I knew who he was, I was watching TCOM and I thought to myself, that Grady Seasons character actually shoots good pool, but he is also by far the best actor in the whole bunch, Cruise and Newman included. I'm serious. When I found out he was a real player, not an actor,I thought he should give it up and become a full-time actor.

Jennie, move him to Hollywood and get the hell out of fantasyland....I smell money out there.

CheffJeff, I was just reading an article on the American Film Institute's website about the 100 most memorable lines from movies in years gone by: http://www.afi.com/tvevents/100years/quotes.aspx#list

In today's cash-starved pool world, one which is craving media attention to promote the sport/game, there are some endeavors which are spreading out to mainstream.

I think Melissa Herndon's appearance on Court TV's "Takedown" segment was a fantastic vehicle to bring a little personality to the TV public and a step forward in the pursuit of name-brand recognition. JMHO, FWIW!

I close with a quote from the 1958 movie "Auntie Mame," which happens to be No. 93 on the AFI list of Top 100 Movie Quotes: Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death..

JAM

 

[!Smorgass Bored]

JAM quotes:
Top 100 Movie Quotes: "Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers are starving to death.."
JAM


Yeah, but some of us are at the Chinese Buffet...
Smorgass Bored

 

[JoeyInCali]

I guess this one line by Pancho Gonzalez in The Player did not make it.
"If you want sympathy, you can check the dictionary. It's after S#i!"

 

[obrien714]

Good Show

Every one is a critic. I give Melissa a big round of applause. The show was meant to be entertaining and it was. The show had pool in it and I enjoyed that. Isnt that why we all watched.

Pat

 

[Joe Pickens]

Every one is a critic. I give Melissa a big round of applause. The show was meant to be entertaining and it was. The show had pool in it and I enjoyed that. Isnt that why we all watched.

Pat

Exactly, that is what I meant when I said I liked it and I would watch it again. It has pool in it and it was entertaining.

 

[macguy]

Every one is a critic. I give Melissa a big round of applause. The show was meant to be entertaining and it was. The show had pool in it and I enjoyed that. Isnt that why we all watched.

Pat

I wasn't meant to be entertainment, as with most of court TV shows, forensic science investigations and so on, it was meant to be educational, so in that respect It was a fraud and not what it was billed as. The other episodes have not been any better, it's a bad show no matter how you look at it. The dice show was a complete joke, and the pool show even worse. It may have been on par with what you would expect to see on a sticom when they portray pool.

 

[yobagua]

Nope I disagree. At least you saw good pool playing infused into a story. Sitcoms and Hollywood shows bunk you by having pretty people with ugly looking bridges and strokes. At least the Shark and the Pool Player could play well and give a good account of themselves in the acting. It is ridiculous to think that you would think this is a documentary. From the shots and the cuts you could tell this was a staged reenaction at best. A lot of Court TV, Discovery, A&E is. Thats why docu's take a year to edit and create. I think the pool players could have helped by making the script realistic. Race to 5 with 3 on the wire for 2K is something maybe only a Louie Roberts would give up. But today there would be a lot of hemming and hawing about that even from the top pros. Although I did see a younger Jose Parica come into our local joint and offer any one the 6,7,& 8 once and proceed to take it down.

All in all though I dont think the 2 pool players have anything to be ashamed about. Melissa you did great. Take it from someone who works in tv production.

 

[macguy]

Nope I disagree. At least you saw good pool playing infused into a story. Sitcoms and Hollywood shows bunk you by having pretty people with ugly looking bridges and strokes. At least the Shark and the Pool Player could play well and give a good account of themselves in the acting. It is ridiculous to think that you would think this is a documentary. From the shots and the cuts you could tell this was a staged reenaction at best. A lot of Court TV, Discovery, A&E is. Thats why docu's take a year to edit and create. I think the pool players could have helped by making the script realistic. Race to 5 with 3 on the wire for 2K is something maybe only a Louie Roberts would give up. But today there would be a lot of hemming and hawing about that even from the top pros. Although I did see a younger Jose Parica come into our local joint and offer any one the 6,7,& 8 once and proceed to take it down.

All in all though I dont think the 2 pool players have anything to be ashamed about. Melissa you did great. Take it from someone who works in tv production.

I doesn't cost anything to do it right. They bet all they had on one short set and if they lost that would have been that, not too smart. They should have bet $800. of the $1700. bankroll and explained in the voice over that they would like to bet more but they are keeping enough back in case something goes wrong they can keep playing and if they win may be able to get the guy to up the bet even more as he chases his money. How hard would it have been to do that and be realistic as well as give a little insight into how a player has to manage his money to give himself the best shot at winning. It was so poorly done that is was just a joke. You found it entertaining, I found it annoying. They did not came off like knowing professionals, just some dumb plot written by someone who has never been in a pool room and is just going by stereotypical recycled TV pool crap you are used to seeing in sitcoms, I stick by my original opinion. I'm not trying to over critical but pool is always done horribly on TV I guess I was just a little hopeful this would be better. Here you had some pros involved and that was the best they could come up with, they should be ashamed of themselves. The plot of trying to get rid of the hustler before the room goes out of business was beyond ridiculous, it insulted the intelligence of anyone player or not who watched.

 

[Joe Pickens]

What I thought was dumb was when they asked for 2 games and the guy says no I'll give you 3 games.

That's really going to happen when you are trying to get weight.

 

[AceHigh]

What I thought was dumb was when they asked for 2 games and the guy says no I'll give you 3 games.

That's really going to happen when you are trying to get weight.

well. . . efren might say that to you if you're matching up with him, if you have no arms. . . wait a second . . . efren would say that to you even if you had your arms, and he'd play blindfolded.

still haven't seen the show, but it sounds like it sucks, so i guess if I need a quick laugh I'll just catch a rerun.

oh, and to the person who thought Keith was/is a better actor than Cruise and Newman. Are you retarded. . . or just retarded?

 

[chefjeff]

(snip)

oh, and to the person who thought Keith was/is a better actor than Cruise and Newman. Are you retarded. . . or just retarded?

I'm neither....I'm retarded.

As for Newman's acting...Saturday Night Live highlighted his lousy acting with a skit about Fast Eddie being a bowling hustler. In that skit, they showed Newman's character being upset after being hustled, and banging his head against the wall. It was quite a putdown for Newman, for sure. I think this skit even made it in the best of SNL skits on Comedy Central or one of those shows. So, I'm not the only retard.

Name me one memorable line from TCOM from Newman. Now, name three memorable lines from Keith.

Jeff Livingston

 

[chefjeff]

I wasn't meant to be entertainment, as with most of court TV shows, forensic science investigations and so on, it was meant to be educational, (snip).

Mac....no disrespect, but pleeeeeaaaase....ALL of TV is meant to be entertainment. That's why people watch. Even the "news" programs are positioned as entertainment first, educational comes later, if at all. Just look at the faces that talk, for example....eye candy.

I think there is a misconception amongst pool players that the pool tv shows should be like what happens in a real room. TV producers don't really care about that. They care about ratings, sponsors, and money. If it happens to be real, well then, so be it.

It's about marketing...it's ALWAYS about marketing. The sponsors want to sell products and services. The producers want the sponsors to be successful so they will sponsor again. That's how it works. If it doesn't work, it doesn't repeat.

I've studied broadcasting in college. I've studied marketing in my business for 24 years. I've played pool for 40 years. I've studied value heirarchy. Integrate them and---presto!---marketing spews forth as THE answer for making money for pool players. I don't make the rules of the universe, I simply observe them and honestly integrate them as fully as possible into every thought and action I create.

The only "opinion" that really counts is the numbers of viewers buying sponsors' products., so these arguments are mostly hot air anyway.

Jeff Livingston