I'm so dissapointed in myself...
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Dartman said:
Oh, that's great!
He wasn't fibbing to me, then.
Whew. Thanks Dart Man!
akaTrigger said:PLEASE don't red rep me,
I am an embarrassment to the billiard community. Mr. Wilson should ban me.
U have neither legal nor moral responsibility to supply those requested photos to ESPN.I do not understand how you could be an embarassment to Billiard community. you did no wrong.I am glad Barbara pointed out about how objections could be raised for distribution of photos.actually there are lots of legal implications.The dude who contacted you now has Dianne Hoppi`s e-mail address.you may send an e-mail to Ms.hoppe expressing sorry for taking the liberty of giving her e-mail address to strangers with out her prior permission. don`t be hard on yourself.cheers
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vagabond said:U neither have legal nor moral responsibility to supply those requested photos to ESPN.I do not understand how you could be an embarassment to Billiard community. you did no wrong.I am glad Barbara pointed out about how objections could be raised for distribution of photos.actually there are lots of legal implications.The dude who contacted you now has Dianne Hoppi`s e-mail address.you may send an e-mail to Ms.hoppe expressing sorry for taking the liberty of giving her e-mail address to strangers with out her prior permission. don`t be hard on yourself.cheers
Hi Vegabond!
I bcc'd her on the email I sent him.
I kept her in the loop.Thanks for the kind words, my friend.
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akaTrigger said:PLEASE don't red rep me, I feel bad enough as it is.... Yes, I dogged it.
Well, As many of you know, I take photos at different tournaments of the players.
So, I get an email on Monday afternoon at 1:45 pm from an ESPN3.com email address:
Hello,
I was told to contact you per the people at the US Open 9Ball Championship, Chesapeake. I am looking for a couple of high resolution action photos from last year's tournament to accompany a brief listing of the championship.
Can you provide?
It takes me a while to get Diana Hoppe's email address and at 9pm I reply:
Hi Shawn,
I have photos of some of the players, but not from that event. If you need some photos from that event, Diana Hoppe can help you out (she took photos there last year). Her email is: xxxyyyy@blah.com
Thanks,
Melinda
He replies at 9am on Tuesday:
You probably can help me. As long as the photos represent a 9 Ball Tournament it is fine. Please send action, someone taking aim maybe or just after a shot, no bigger than 3 MB each (per email). The photos run thumbnail size so should be easily identifiable.
Then an hour later he emails me again and says:
I tried to email Diana but her spam blocker is blocking me with an ERROR message. Do you have a phone number? Are you able to send me something?
Then at 2pm today (Wednesday) I send an email:
Shawn - how many different players do you need and when do you need them by?
He replies in less than a minute:
The deadline has passed. Sorry.
OMG! I then ask him if they ran the story w/o photos or did he get photos from another source and he says:
We cannot include events that do not have a photo accompanying. I contacted you and (someone else).
I then see his signature says "Photo Editor ESPN the Magazine"
To say I am sick to my stomach is an UNDERSTATEMENT!! OMG! Billiards could have been in ESPN Magazine again and I dogged it b/c I didn't know he had a such a short deadline!
I told him to contact me in the future and I would respond ASAP next time, now that I know the deadlines are so short.
I am an embarrassment to the billiard community. Mr. Wilson should ban me.
It seems to me that he was trying to make up for lost time and didn't give you all the info you needed to make "his" deadline. Too bad, so sad... for him.
You are one of the most involved people in pool. When I grow up, I want to be just like you...well, not just like you, but... crap you know what I mean. Keep up the good work.
Dwight
Here is something I found to make you laugh...
A wife invited some people to dinner.
At the table, she turned to their six-year-old daughter and said,
'Would you like to say the blessing?'
'I wouldn't know what to say,' the girl replied.
'Just say what you hear Mommy say,' the wife answered.
The daughter bowed her head and said,
'Lord, why on earth did I invite all these people to dinner?'
Wow with all of the photo's on the internet he couldn't pull some himself??? What about the thousands of hours of video that they have on file that they show every week. This guy dropped the ball and looks like he used you as a scapegoat.
JV
JV
True Story:BigDogatLarge said:
My (at the time) 7 year old was playing in little league and felt as though he was doing quite well. After every game the coaches would pull all the kids together and give the game ball to a player on the team that they felt was the best player of the day. After 4 weeks of this we were driving home from the game and my son is really bummed out. I asked what the problem was and he said "I got 3 hits and 2 runs and got 3 people out and Billy got the game ball this week and he struck out 2 times". I told him "Don't worry about it buddy. You probably notice that all the kids that have gotten the game ball so far are the coaches sons. You will get one soon." So the next week comes along and my son has another good game. They huddle everyone in the dug out and the coach announces who gets the game ball. No sooner than the words came out of the coaches mouth, my son jumps up in frustration and turns to me and yells...
"SEE DADDY, TRAVIS IS NOT ONE OF THE COACHES SONS!!!!". I held my head high (as I could in lew of the situation) and grabbed my sons gear bag and his hand and we promptly left. My son never received a game ball that year and I learned a lesson in watching what you say...
JV
Melinda, keep your head up and look forward to the next opportunity. You have his email address which could be very valuable for future exposure for you and the sport. If you ever work up something that you think would be a great addition to the mag don't hesitate to submit it. This might open a new door for you.
GL,
D
GL,
D
Johnny "V" said:
I'm surprised how some people think that it's alright to pull someone's photos off the internet, and then use them w/o permission. Especially for commercial use....
HE didn't "drop the ball" at all....he knew he'd be sued if he did that.
It's not OK to 'steal' images, and the courts have backed that up an untold amount of times.
Trigger....you did all you could. He didn't make himself clear to begin with. Who knows...even if you did submit some photos on time, he still might not have ran them.
You did all you could.....there will be a next time, don't worry!! And if you need help in anyway, I'll be glad to do whatever I can.
bfdlad said:Melinda, I pray for the day that we can tell ESPN to go F themselves and work with Spike etc. They have dropped the Pool biz like it was the plague. They will at this point do nothing for us unless we are hoilding a $500k event on the roof of the playboy mansion. They hold all the cards and have us by the huevos or ovarys whatever . One dat Melinda your great pictures and those of DHoppe's will be in such de,and they will hold up the printing of a magazine and not come to us at the last min for a filler. You are awesome. I know we need ESPN but it is always on their crappy terms it seems. Again I would like for our sport to be so in demand that we could turn around and do to them what they are doing to us and make them pay out the ASS for coverage. Anyway hows things well I hope
Well said. Many share your opinion.
Sweet Marissa
www.Bella-Muse.com
If you're so much better at it, then learn to capitalise your sentences and use proper punctuation. I didn't realise this was a grammar and usage forum.cplayermagic said:
akaTrigger said:
You can say that again....
Awesome work there...Chefas!
Website is very impressive. GREAT use of Flash!!
I love the use of low light, yet everything is razor sharp. (example...Bride running in opposite direction thru grass) Was a strobe used there?
What equipment are you using....?? (have to ask!)
I'm surprised that you assumed that my suggestion was to steal the images. Nowhere in my post did I state that he do that. Many times I find something that I like I contact the web master or the site owner and ask if it was ok to use it on my web sites. If they say no or want money then I either pay or don't post. I have had many things stolen over the years and have felt the financial pain that causes. So please hold my morals in higher regard...Rick S. said:
Thx,
JV
Oh Enough Already
Melinda,
You should be ashamed, and you're right.....you are an embarrassment to the billiard community.
You blew it, you laid an egg, you went 0 for 4 with runners on base, you punted on 3rd down....oh jeeeezzzz I am so mad at you.
Just kidding :wink:
Hopefully see you on the 17th (Fingers crossed)
Melinda,
You should be ashamed, and you're right.....you are an embarrassment to the billiard community.
You blew it, you laid an egg, you went 0 for 4 with runners on base, you punted on 3rd down....oh jeeeezzzz I am so mad at you.
Just kidding :wink:
Hopefully see you on the 17th (Fingers crossed)
Johnny "V" said:
One problem there....
Neither the webmaster, or site owner can give you legal permission to use the images. Permission has to come from the photographer. Since he's the legal 'owner' of the images. (In the majority of cases, anyway.)
I just went thru a similar situation....it's no fun at all.