One of my favorite guys to watch was/is Jose Parica because he kept it simple and he was tough in long sets for that reason. I wonder if he is still playing, haven't heard much from him lately.
Inside VS Outside
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One of my favorite guys to watch was/is Jose Parica because he kept it simple and he was tough in long sets for that reason. I wonder if he is still playing, haven't heard much from him lately.
Oh, I wondered if you might be referring to that shot, heading toward the opposite corner. Its not a great path to bring the CB across that way.
I was talking about the shot on no.2 ball in the diagram below, which brings the CB around the 3 rails toward the center of the table:
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I've got a mate, not well endowed, who insists he can go all night. Some say he's compensating. All I know is he goes through a lot of viagra.
the gambling in pool was 100 times what it is today and the money was worth it
I've played over 50 hours a few times, and over 80 once.
These sessions were with several players, not just one. "Country Calvin" was the only one I didn't believe I could outlast, we played a few 50+ hour sessions. This wasn't abnormal for those times, the gambling in pool was 100 times what it is today and the money was worth all the time and effort. I won over $300,000 gambling at pool three years in a row in one stretch......of course I had partners, so my end wasn't 100%, although I still did well.
Reid Pierce and Jimmy Wetch also had a lot of heart and would test anyone they would play for 20+ hours. There were many more like Mike Johnson, Eugene Browning, Robert LaBlanc, Robert Turner, Bryan Ashley, etc that were also tough money players that would play until they were broke, pumped, or exhausted....it wasn't in good taste to quit "even" in those days, and your reputation would be tarnished if you were a quitter.
I've played over 50 hours a few times, and over 80 once.
These sessions were with several players, not just one. "Country Calvin" was the only one I didn't believe I could outlast, we played a few 50+ hour sessions. This wasn't abnormal for those times, the gambling in pool was 100 times what it is today and the money was worth all the time and effort. I won over $300,000 gambling at pool three years in a row in one stretch......of course I had partners, so my end wasn't 100%, although I still did well.
Reid Pierce and Jimmy Wetch also had a lot of heart and would test anyone they would play for 20+ hours. There were many more like Mike Johnson, Eugene Browning, Robert LaBlanc, Robert Turner, Bryan Ashley, etc that were also tough money players that would play until they were broke, pumped, or exhausted....it wasn't in good taste to quit "even" in those days, and your reputation would be tarnished if you were a quitter.
You have no idea what it's like until you experience it
Then your game hasn't been tested, and will undoubtedly fold after a few hours under the heat of TOI. You have no idea what it's like until you experience it, and it would be humbling to say the least. :thumbup:
Then your game hasn't been tested, and will undoubtedly fold after a few hours under the heat of TOI. You have no idea what it's like until you experience it, and it would be humbling to say the least. :thumbup:
More like his self-medication protocols haven't been tested.
Real elite performers of cue sports don't consider long endurance sleep depriving match ups a test of their billiard skills.
So pretty much any shot that is possible, regardless how difficult, is a certainty for you Philly? We should be reading your blog rather than trying to examine things ourselves I guess.
To the contrary, I have the same problem that we all do: I miss too many shots. I try not to shy away from any type of English. I understand that English can throw a ball but If you hit the object ball correctly it goes in regardless of English. I do know one thing, if you think the shot is hard and you will miss it then you certainly will miss it. You can think your way into a miss. Shying away from a type of English is like not hitting a four or three or six iron in golf. You have to play all the clubs to play a good game. If I think I have a very small percentage of making a shot or I know I can't get shape then I play safe. Just MHO.
That makes sense to me Philly.
Though it seemed to me your previous post was dismissive of the discussion, hence I didn't speculate as to your intention too much, let me offer a thought or two.
The perfect shape is where we would put the CB if we had BIH. It's rarely wise to play for this shape. We need to balance the factors that determine difficulty in various positional options.
We also need to target types of shots that we can improve our potting and positional success rates on.
And though this thread discussion bifurcates into various thoughts, there are some insights worth investigating that may provide tools to improving choice of shot and execution of some shots that may be worthy of choosing.
Cheers,
Colin
From the CB position, I'd bank the 3/5 with a little outside and the 10/4 with a little inside.
If this was meant to turn into a TOI discussion, I'm done.
If this was meant to be an outside vs inside discussion relating to bank shots, I'll stay.
I understand where you are coming from Colin. I am a feel player. I know the physics of the game but I don't consciously think through the physics, rather I allow my subconscious to worry about the physics of the game. If I overthink I lose my positive thought train. Sort of a paralysis through analysis type of deal. That's just what works for me and I know it's not the only way to approach the game.
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Blah blah blah blah. You said 8-10 hours and I've done that enough to know my game doesn't fall off like you claim. Got any of your "toi students" in the Pacific northwest? We can test your little "theory."
What would be humbling is you having to back up these ridiculous claims.
I think I know what you mean Philly. I'd say practice is a time to gather knowledge and playing is a time to use feel to execute the knowledge that has become intuitive.
Not to infer that practice isn't a time to develop feel also.
I find playing the best players I can does more for me than any lesson. Once again that's just me. It sometimes costs me money too, just like a lesson. LOL.
Learn to play inside cue ball, hit them heavy, and master it.
Then learn the edges, you will need this, master it.
Bring a straight stroke. Learn to deliver it accurately with proper speed to point of contact on the target.
(Cue Ball Aim Accuracy)
Everything else is second place, easily learned, simple as compared.
If you leave your straight stroke at home go back and get it, knowledge is useless without it.
Sincerely: SS
Then learn the edges, you will need this, master it.
Bring a straight stroke. Learn to deliver it accurately with proper speed to point of contact on the target.
(Cue Ball Aim Accuracy)
Everything else is second place, easily learned, simple as compared.
If you leave your straight stroke at home go back and get it, knowledge is useless without it.
Sincerely: SS
Yes, the shot on the 2-ball was the kind of shot I referred to as my second use of inside english: "2) when the cut angle is such that inside is actually going to be running english and I need the running english for position."
I still remember the first time I used it successfully on a long-ish shot; I was grinning from ear-to-ear because I actually pocketed the ball and the CB mysteriously went where I wanted it to! (I'd used it often on short shots like the 2-ball in your example, but never on a long shot).
In any case, I'm always much less comfortable using inside english than outside; it just seems like so much more can go wrong re: pocketing the OB.