Interesting cue,any comments?

The backend appears to be definitely a Rambo, but it's going to take quite a bit of work to get it in shape. You'll have no signature, no originality. IMHO this is a candidate to have a conversion done. Maybe a James White with a Rambo blank. :)

JV
 
Rambow

This is definitely a pre 50's Rambow or Brunswick possibly made by him or made under his supervision, there were several people at Brunswick making them before he left in 1950. Several were made without any markings, but without the Rambow signature its hard to say without sending it to Paul Rubino or Deano Andrews for authentification. I have three of them in very good condition, so I have been reading a lot of stuff about them.

Thanks
Ted
 
Rambo?

It would be tuff to say for sure its a Rambo. Alot of his cues made after he left in 1950 were signed and he also quite often put the initials of whomever he made it for on the cue as well. This could too easily be faked just using any old titleist.

Orion
 
cuesblues said:
This is definitely a pre 50's Rambow or Brunswick possibly made by him or made under his supervision, there were several people at Brunswick making them before he left in 1950. Several were made without any markings, but without the Rambow signature its hard to say without sending it to Paul Rubino or Deano Andrews for authentification. I have three of them in very good condition, so I have been reading a lot of stuff about them.

Thanks
Ted
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Ted,

I'm just curious. What is it about the cue that makes you think it's a Brunswick employed Rambow rather than one of his customs?

Chris
 
Chris,

Good question, you made me go look at my 3-Rambows at 3 am

When I look at the Rambows that have survived, and featured on various websites in addition to my own, they are all Titilists so that is all I have ever seen that actually exist. Its hard to tell from the rather poorly done pics but I doubt that this is pre 1925, and it looks too old to be a post 1950 custom. On the other hand, the points look longer than mine, more like my old Palmer, the ring above the butt cap is interesting, and if it is a post 1950 custom, its just in really bad shape. My cues are 80-years old but were in one persons possesion since the forties and well taken care of. It sounds like you think this is a post 50's custom and I hope you are right because that makes it a Rambow without question. Without seeing it or any authentification I hate to spend the money to find out. Do you know anything about this cue or one just like it? $798.00 could be a good deal, but everytime I buy something like this on eBay it turns out to be dissapointing. The forensics are really important on something like this, it's not valuable enough to get them done, but from what I have heard from the experts in ten years they will be.

Thanks
Ted
 
cuesblues said:
Chris,

Good question, you made me go look at my 3-Rambows at 3 am

When I look at the Rambows that have survived, and featured on various websites in addition to my own, they are all Titilists so that is all I have ever seen that actually exist. Its hard to tell from the rather poorly done pics but I doubt that this is pre 1925, and it looks too old to be a post 1950 custom. On the other hand, the points look longer than mine, more like my old Palmer, the ring above the butt cap is interesting, and if it is a post 1950 custom, its just in really bad shape. My cues are 80-years old but were in one persons possesion since the forties and well taken care of. It sounds like you think this is a post 50's custom and I hope you are right because that makes it a Rambow without question. Without seeing it or any authentification I hate to spend the money to find out. Do you know anything about this cue or one just like it? $798.00 could be a good deal, but everytime I buy something like this on eBay it turns out to be dissapointing. The forensics are really important on something like this, it's not valuable enough to get them done, but from what I have heard from the experts in ten years they will be.

Thanks
Ted
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The reason why I ask is because there are couple of clues. Appears to be no weight stamp on the cue, which leads me to think it was made from a "blank", something he did at a later date. Even many of his customs from the 1950's had weight stamps because they were converted Titlists.

The other thing is, the earlier Rambow's I've seen have either had the thicker Hoppe ring (like a Brunswick Professional) or no ring. I've always considered the thin extra decorative butt ring to be something that came aong later, late 1950's early 1960's - but I don't know for sure. Also, it's hard to tell from the photos but it doesn't look like it has sharp inside points - where the veneers come together and end in the wrap area. The earlier blanks had nicely finished inside points.

I personally wouldn't buy the cue as a Rambow without having some history, proof or whatever. But it does look like one.

Chris
 
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My Rambow

Chris must mean he would like a Rambow like mine....maybe.

The Rambow I have was purchesed out the Murphy Little Collection.

"Snooks" Perlstein orginally purchased the Rambow cue. He was quite the accomplished player, with rumors of him beating Willie Mosconi. Snooks was friends with Murphy Little, a criminal lawyer practicing in Miami.

In time, the cue had made its way to the Lexington, Kentucky home of the wealthy attorney. It remained in the Murphy collection until his death.

Shown in the pics are the March 2003 Pool and Billiard Magazine feature on it and the Balabushka that was purchased from the collection. Also shown is a March 1968 Billiard News Cover showing a picture of "Snooks" and the little Rambow cue he was playing with.

The other pics are show the cue in my collection.

Any thoughts on that my little Palmer buddy?


If somebody can help me resize some awesome pics I'll share them!

LOL

Ken
 
I will probably hear boos and hisses

I think not. There are a few things that I will not elaborate on that don't look right. The cue might be a Rambo. I just would never bet on it. Too many things look almost right. But a couple things appear very questionable in my mind. I would only buy the cue if the seller agreed to a inspection by Paul Rubino. And I have a feeling that request would be nixxed for the simple reason that it may fail.
JMO
Nick :)
 
Ken_4fun said:
Chris must mean he would like a Rambow like mine....maybe.

The Rambow I have was purchesed out the Murphy Little Collection.

"Snooks" Perlstein orginally purchased the Rambow cue. He was quite the accomplished player, with rumors of him beating Willie Mosconi. Snooks was friends with Murphy Little, a criminal lawyer practicing in Miami.

In time, the cue had made its way to the Lexington, Kentucky home of the wealthy attorney. It remained in the Murphy collection until his death.

Shown in the pics are the March 2003 Pool and Billiard Magazine feature on it and the Balabushka that was purchased from the collection. Also shown is a March 1968 Billiard News Cover showing a picture of "Snooks" and the little Rambow cue he was playing with.

The other pics are show the cue in my collection.

Any thoughts on that my little Palmer buddy?


If somebody can help me resize some awesome pics I'll share them!

LOL

Ken
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Ken, sure - please e-mail them to me at palmercollector@aol.com - I'd love to see them. with scans of the magazines if you have them. I'll host them on my site for the sake of this thread.

Chris
 
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Ken, sure - please e-mail them to me at palmercollector@aol.com - I'd love to see them. with scans of the magazines if you have them. I'll host them on my site for the sake of this thread.

Chris
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Chris -

Pics sent.

Now if I convience you to go to the Derby City Classic, I'll buy your supper one night!

Your friend in pool,

Ken
 
jayman said:
I dont think its a Rambow cue. The buttcap is all wrong. It should be Ivory, and since he didnt use rubber bumpers they were nicely rounded,
This one has a visible ring where a bumper was, and is flat on the bottom. and with all of that, and no script or stamps on the shaft to boot? Hmm, I realy dont think so.
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There were a couple of different styles. Mine is rounded over like you suggest, but Ken's isnt. The auction cue might be a Rambow, but it might not. That's the problem when there is no provenance.

Chris
 
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