That's fine. What you can't do is any intentional foul. E.g. sink (or hit) opponents ball directly - loss of game.
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Catching the ball when it's about to scratch serves no purpose. Just let it fall in the pocket.
that was the point I was making- Shane actually did let it fall in the pocket- he just grabbed it out of the pocket before it could go through the ball return and they still called it a loss of game.
As I stated earlier in this thread, I'm philosophically opposed to overly punitive rules. It is just over the top.
that is completely absurd
Thanks for the clarification
Aha, thank you.
Yeah I agree.. if she whacked the cue ball in disgust and maybe you see a sportsmanship think but it was just that little tap we’ve all done to let our opponent know it was a foul and he has ball in hand.
billiards_watch
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While the rules may sound absurd to some but lets not pretend there wasn't shenanigans going on.
In the spirit of the rules:
Shane committed a foul and proceed to commit another by touching the cue ball. In the spirit of the game a player can’t touch a cue ball unless it’s a ball in hand. Result is a loss.
The woman committed a foul with the clock running down. Proceeds to foul again by deliberately poking the ball. Could have been done in protest. Who knows. It’s a foul on top of a foul. Result in a loss.
Logically speaking the rules are correct and they were most likely informed about it.
In the spirit of the rules:
Shane committed a foul and proceed to commit another by touching the cue ball. In the spirit of the game a player can’t touch a cue ball unless it’s a ball in hand. Result is a loss.
The woman committed a foul with the clock running down. Proceeds to foul again by deliberately poking the ball. Could have been done in protest. Who knows. It’s a foul on top of a foul. Result in a loss.
Logically speaking the rules are correct and they were most likely informed about it.
billiards_watch
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It’s similar to the people that accidentally touch an object ball and proceeds to grab it and put it back to where they think it was.
I tell people if they touch it by accident then leave it. It’s already bad enough you did it and you want to do it again by picking it up.
Let the balls play itself out even with the initial touch. Touching it again will be altering an already altered game.
I tell people if they touch it by accident then leave it. It’s already bad enough you did it and you want to do it again by picking it up.
Let the balls play itself out even with the initial touch. Touching it again will be altering an already altered game.
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I didn’t know that. I looked at the rules after seeing this. Terrible, terrible rule. I had been generally positive about what they are doing. And maybe still am. But that one makes no sense to me.
Perhaps this rule is in place just to speed up play? Directly shooting a opponents ball would only be down as safety play.
The no intentional foul rule is specifically used to prevent games from taking too long. It's all about speeding up play.
Yeah and it probably works for that. I think I’d rather see 2 consecutive fouls as loss of game than that. Maybe not. And I guess you have some control shooting a shot you know is the wrong play.
That would certainly be interesting!
Hmmm, putting your hand in the pocket to catch a ball should, according to any proper interpretation of the rules, always be a foul. Balls have been known to bounce out of pockets back onto the playing surface. I can't think of any situation, other than in a friendly game, (where several technical fouls should be ignored) where this wouldn't be a foul. It's a pool tournament - a competition - and it is played by the rules of the game
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i think all of those things, hand in pocket, raking cb to indicate you fouled, picking up balls before the cb has stopped are examples of ingrained pool room behavior. in a culture were we usually don't have refs it's bound to clash with strict rule enforcements..
I'll add that I don't think anyone on the outer tables was penalized a game for doing that, only when the ref was presiding over the game. I caught at least one cueball before it went in the hole out of habit. My opponent just took BIH and kept going. Some things are just different on the stream table.
In Denver Matlock broke/8 ball pocketed, he wins.
In tournament play that was not the case.
And who wants to ''bend over'' to get whitey Not me. Catch it if your There.
In tournament play that was not the case.
And who wants to ''bend over'' to get whitey Not me. Catch it if your There.
No one has to bend over. The ref immediately hands you the extra cue ball he carries with him since you're on the clock as soon as the balls stop rolling.
I think what is being explained is you can’t shoot your opponents ball hitting it first.