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[SlimShafty]

I have read many similar articles. I've read the the pros and cons.

In fact I've read more on nutrition and natural cures that 99.9% of accredited doctors.

So I believe, in most situations where medical advice is normally sought, that my own advice is better than that of any local GP.

For certain conditions I would seek other advice. But I steer clear of doctors as much as possible, except on the pool table or golf course.

I believe KT's book encourages many to begin a quest to learn more about governing their own health, and that to me is a good thing.

I'm yet to find a single book on health that I agreed entirely with, and so I'm sure there are recommendations in Natural Cures with which I'd disagree.

By chance I met a guy a few days ago who had recently purchased and read the book, and was full of praise for it. His eyes had been opened he told me, and he was now motivated to eat better and live a healthier lifestyle. For many, I'm sure his book has very positive effects.

Of course he will have powerful enemies trying to discredit every questionable claim. The book is having a considerate impact on the legitamacy of the status quo, the medico-pharmo-media-government complex. And for those who don't think there is conspiring, then you must have a grade school level understanding of what a conspiracy actually is and how it works. The history of this complex is well known and documented. It doesn't require that doctors are in on it. It is a system which flows naturally out of the dynamics of the economic incentives within a government protected monopoly.

<adjusts tin foil hat and signs off>

So true, it's really sad since we have such great medical technology and such a bad corporate world blinding the truth for huge profits. Sadly I have had close relatives die from being over medicated and many times I have stopped my family from taking the wrong or seriously dangerous medications. Just recently my father was told to take statins for his cholesterol and it caused him muscle pain and they kept telling him it's nothing and gave him another type, free sample packs, that they push. I got him off them and put him on a better diet, which of course the doctors said wouldn't work, after just 5 months his total cholesterol went down to 160 from 230 and his good cholesterol went up.

Nurse called and said hey those pills really worked! and he told them he did it with diet and eliminating all trans fats, also eating pecans, the doc was mad! you believe that he was mad. I told him to get a new doctor stat!

Funny that pecans are high in fat, yet lower your cholesterol's and don't cause one to gain weight.

My Aunt read the book and thought it was interesting but thought KT was insane for some of his ideas but she too got something from it, and has stopped eating at that clown joint, and made some other changes in diet.


Hey Colin, I suggest you get a hold of a film called the corporation, you would love it, I saw it on the sundance channel.

 

[Blackjack]

I have read many similar articles. I've read the the pros and cons.

In fact I've read more on nutrition and natural cures that 99.9% of accredited doctors.

So I believe, in most situations where medical advice is normally sought, that my own advice is better than that of any local GP.

For certain conditions I would seek other advice. But I steer clear of doctors as much as possible, except on the pool table or golf course.

I believe KT's book encourages many to begin a quest to learn more about governing their own health, and that to me is a good thing.

I'm yet to find a single book on health that I agreed entirely with, and so I'm sure there are recommendations in Natural Cures with which I'd disagree.

By chance I met a guy a few days ago who had recently purchased and read the book, and was full of praise for it. His eyes had been opened he told me, and he was now motivated to eat better and live a healthier lifestyle. For many, I'm sure his book has very positive effects.

Of course he will have powerful enemies trying to discredit every questionable claim. The book is having a considerate impact on the legitamacy of the status quo, the medico-pharmo-media-government complex. And for those who don't think there is conspiring, then you must have a grade school level understanding of what a conspiracy actually is and how it works. The history of this complex is well known and documented. It doesn't require that doctors are in on it. It is a system which flows naturally out of the dynamics of the economic incentives within a government protected monopoly.

<adjusts tin foil hat and signs off>

Colin, no comment on the book endorsement from the dead guy? He doesn't need powerful enemies to dispute that, the guy has been dead since 2001, long before he ever wrote the book. It is things such as that and the false claim of the diabetes study from the University of Calgary that make him look very silly. As a diabetic I take great offense to the fact that he would publish false information directing me towards remedies based on a study that the University says never occurred. In some cases that could have deadly consequences. You say the book is having quite an impact on the legitamacy of the status quo - can you direct me to this material so I can review it? Thanks.

 

[cueball1950]

Cueball1950,
A couple of responses to your queries.

Regarding the book, the topic has been discussed in greater detail in other threads here. To summarize my own opinion on it, it is similar to many natural remedy books in content, just marketed better. Consider that Iatrogenic causes of death (that is death through medical error) is in the top few causes of death in the US. There will be deaths from all attempted remedies. I believe people should be free to seek whatever advice they want, and make their best decision based on what they know. That they should not take their doctor's advice as necessarily the best advice. Many doctors have written books saying the same thing and warning of the danger or so-called accepted medical treatments.

colin, i have to agree somewhat. I have tried herbal remedies in the past and i have eve tried accupuncture in the past. But these were always on the advice of real dr's who knew what they were talking about and trained in this field. KT is not a Dr. never has been never will be. Just a convicted felon lying and cheating the public with his book of lies. when will enough be enough for people. people are getting hurt and people are dying because of this book and what is even sadder is that someone like KT don't even give a crap as long as people still buy his book.......my last thoughts on this subject................................mike

 

[Gabber]

I have read many similar articles. I've read the the pros and cons.

In fact I've read more on nutrition and natural cures that 99.9% of accredited doctors.

So I believe, in most situations where medical advice is normally sought, that my own advice is better than that of any local GP.

For certain conditions I would seek other advice. But I steer clear of doctors as much as possible, except on the pool table or golf course.

I believe KT's book encourages many to begin a quest to learn more about governing their own health, and that to me is a good thing.

I'm yet to find a single book on health that I agreed entirely with, and so I'm sure there are recommendations in Natural Cures with which I'd disagree.

By chance I met a guy a few days ago who had recently purchased and read the book, and was full of praise for it. His eyes had been opened he told me, and he was now motivated to eat better and live a healthier lifestyle. For many, I'm sure his book has very positive effects.

Of course he will have powerful enemies trying to discredit every questionable claim. The book is having a considerate impact on the legitamacy of the status quo, the medico-pharmo-media-government complex. And for those who don't think there is conspiring, then you must have a grade school level understanding of what a conspiracy actually is and how it works. The history of this complex is well known and documented. It doesn't require that doctors are in on it. It is a system which flows naturally out of the dynamics of the economic incentives within a government protected monopoly.

<adjusts tin foil hat and signs off>

TRUDEAU: Well, I came out with the book Natural Cures “They” Don’t Want You to Know About because it’s not a single—you always hear about “they.” You know. “They” did this; “they’re” researching this; “they’re” studying this. “They” in this case are really several government agencies—U.S. government agencies—and other agencies around the world, and the drug industry primarily, but also it involves the food industry. There are certain groups, including government agencies, as well as the food industry, the drug industry, and even some news and television and newspaper organizations that don’t want people to know about cures for diseases that are all natural because people can’t make money on all-natural cures.
So there are in fact cures for cancer. There are cures for diabetes. There are cures for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. There are cures—all-natural cures—for Attention Deficit Disorder, migraine headaches. . .

People CANT make money on all-natural cures???????

Gabber

 

[SlimShafty]

Sure people make money on the sale of natural health products, but the large drug cartels...ahhh companies are threatened by many natural and herbal remedies and see $$$ in the regulation and sale of such items they feel they are intitiled too.

Most of the world is completely unaware of what goes on at the WTO or another fine organization CODEX, you are kept in the dark about what those lovely Pharma corporation's want to do and how they lobby governments....of course only to help you (out of your money)

Does anyone know that certain corporations have and continue to lobby that most if not all vitamins and minerals should be by prescription only? thankfully some people are aware of this and are fighting, and have won a round already against this crap.

Yup, those lovely people that look out for our best interest want to make the sale of natural vitamins and minerals by prescription only, and thats not all.

Say you want to take a 500mg of vitamin C or 200 IU of E, well if they decide thats too much, you guessed it your not going to be able to get it, oh and of course they will make sure it's safe for you, but this comes at a cost of course

vitamin C is already illegal in Norway above 200mg same with E over I think 45 IU. The sale of echinacea is also controlled and sold at massively high prices by a Pharmaceuticals giant, what should cost $15 or 20 cost over $100!! I could go on, like trying to regulate the sale of fish oil, or other essential fatty acids??

It's sad when certain few fall in bed with major global corporations, and try to make laws to make profits, and nobody seems to mind or even know whats been put on the table or suggested, Nope just go after the so called nuts.

All I know is a lot of so called nuts are not to far off the mark, and a lot of so called authorities are off more then you realize.

 

[cueball1950]

Hi, Mike! What a mouthful. I always read your posts, but this one was a wee bit difficult because of no paragraphing. However, I hear you loud and clear and understand what you are saying.

i guess i should have been an english major to write on this board. i guess my ignorence in english structure is showing.so maybe i will stop posting on here since my grammar is so bad.

Nobody likes to see the U.S. Open in this predicament. I know I sure don't.

then why should we have to. KT can change his dates.


It is easy to pass judgment on Kevin Trudeau because of the media spiel

maybe it is because he has lied to the public constantly

.

 

[Timberly]

i guess i should have been an english major to write on this board. i guess my ignorence in english structure is showing.so maybe i will stop posting on here since my grammar is so bad.

Mike, sentence structure and punctation are not my strong points either. I've had a couple of people say things to me too about my posts so now I make an conscious effort to break up a large post. Regardless of whether I'm starting a new paragraph in the right place or not. I've got great eye sight and I have trouble reading a large post that isn't broken down.

Jennie wasn't trying to critique your "ignorance in english structure". I'm sure she wouldn't care if you started paragraphs in the wrong place like I do. She (and many others, so I've been told & since discovered myself) just want you to split it up every few lines with a space like I did above.

A very large post will run together and is difficult to read simply because the lines run together and you lose your place.

 

[Colin Colenso]

Mike, sentence structure and punctation are not my strong points either. I've had a couple of people say things to me too about my posts so now I make an conscious effort to break up a large post. Regardless of whether I'm starting a new paragraph in the right place or not. I've got great eye sight and I have trouble reading a large post that isn't broken down.

Jennie wasn't trying to critique your "ignorance in english structure". I'm sure she wouldn't care if you started paragraphs in the wrong place like I do. She (and many others, so I've been told & since discovered myself) just want you to split it up every few lines with a space like I did above.

A very large post will run together and is difficult to read simply because the lines run together and you lose your place.

Good advice Timberly,
Readability is more important that perfect grammar or spelling.

Just hit that enter key whenever the block of text starts to go past 3 lines At the end of a sentence would be an advantage though

 

[TheOne]

Good advice Timberly,
Readability is more important that perfect grammar or spelling.

Just hit that enter key whenever the block of text starts to go past 3 lines At the end of a sentence would be an advantage though

Hey Co

lin, first my spelli

ng, than, my tour date clashes, and now para

graphs!

Tuh, whatever n

ext!

I ated inglish @ skool n e way

L8ER

M8

 

[jjinfla]

Cueball1950,
A couple of responses to your queries.

Consider that Iatrogenic causes of death (that is death through medical error) is in the top few causes of death in the US. Mike

Isn't it strange how the medical field uses a high fallutin word to say that they screwed up? Iatrogenic means that the Doctor, or other care giver, screwed up and did something wrong to the patient.

Another word they use is "nosocomial" which means the patient acquired the illiness in the hospital. Most likely through unsanitary conditions.

The bottom line is one should get out of the hospital as fast as you can. The longer one stays there the greater the chance they will kill you.

Jake

 

[Colin Colenso]

Hey Co

lin, first my spelli

ng, than, my tour date clashes, and now para

graphs!

Tuh, whatever n

ext!

I ated inglish @ skool n e way

L8R

M8

Yeah, calcul8r buddy

 

[Colin Colenso]

Isn't it strange how the medical field uses a high fallutin word to say that they screwed up? Iatrogenic means that the Doctor, or other care giver, screwed up and did something wrong to the patient.

Another word they use is "nosocomial" which means the patient acquired the illiness in the hospital. Most likely through unsanitary conditions.

The bottom line is one should get out of the hospital as fast as you can. The longer one stays there the greater the chance they will kill you.

Jake

Ain't it funny how there are no WARNINGS from the Surgeon General when one enters a doctor's office or hospital?

You're spot on Jake, they use hard to pronounce - spell - remember words because they don't want the accountability which would arise from increased discussion of their errors. Doctors and hospitals are not to compete with each other by comparing the results of their services.

 

[Gabber]

Sure people make money on the sale of natural health products,
QUOTE]

So its a lie. You do agree?

If we are going to have any kind of useful discussion we have to agree on the facts. BlackJack posed two simple questions that you and Colin have ignored. I quote.

Colin, no comment on the book endorsement from the dead guy? He doesn't need powerful enemies to dispute that, the guy has been dead since 2001, long before he ever wrote the book. It is things such as that and the false claim of the diabetes study from the University of Calgary that make him look very silly. As a diabetic I take great offense to the fact that he would publish false information directing me towards remedies based on a study that the University says never occurred. In some cases that could have deadly consequences. You say the book is having quite an impact on the legitamacy of the status quo - can you direct me to this material so I can review it? Thanks

A dead guy seemingly endorsing a book and a study that never took place. Any comment?

When the IPT says its done all it can to avoid clashes with other tournaments but the other side says this is not true- who should we believe?
If they are lying about this, can we really trust anything they say?

Any comment?

Gabber

 

[TheOne]

Yeah, calcul8r buddy

You have way too much time! May I suggest some more practice young jedi, I'm still waiting for you 100+ straight pool run and your 8 ball ghost results!

 

[JAM]

Any comment?

I really like your avatar! Cute pup!

JAM

 

[jjinfla]

Cueball 1950,

Are you saying that Barry could have gotten ESPN coverage for the US Open for only $40,000. And he turned it down. He couldn't get sponsors to cover that? Impossible. No wonder he loses money.

I never did completely read your post. My eyes couldn't handle it. In fact I didn't read any of it the first few times I ran across it. But after reading responses, criticism of it I forced myself to go back.

My advice is for you to listen to the people who tried to help you.

Jake

 

[Colin Colenso]

Colin, no comment on the book endorsement from the dead guy? He doesn't need powerful enemies to dispute that, the guy has been dead since 2001, long before he ever wrote the book. It is things such as that and the false claim of the diabetes study from the University of Calgary that make him look very silly. As a diabetic I take great offense to the fact that he would publish false information directing me towards remedies based on a study that the University says never occurred. In some cases that could have deadly consequences. You say the book is having quite an impact on the legitamacy of the status quo - can you direct me to this material so I can review it? Thanks.

I missed answering this directly...another poster alerted me to the fact. Not that I'm trying to avoid difficult questions...simply that it's hard to keep track sometimes.

On the dead guy, what I read didn't appear conclusive. He may have endorsed opinions the KT held and had stated previous to writing the book, as KT was involved in this industry with ventures including selling Coral Calcium long prior to the release of this book. Could it have been spin...or blatently false...I dunno. As I've said before, I don't endorse everything in the book, as there is not a single natural health book that I would endorse entirely, but I'd say that many, including Natural Cures contain important ideas that are helpful. If I wrote the book, I'd state my arguments against the medical - pharmaceutical industry in different ways...and I probably wouldn't find a publisher or sell a copy...lol

As for the impact on the staus quo, I think it is obvious. The book and the infomercials slam the medical and pharmaceutical industry for being terrible at providing health. As millions have bought the book, this effects the legitimacy of the staus quo, that is the government approved professionals in the industry and whatever claims they make.

Colin

 

[Colin Colenso]

When the IPT says its done all it can to avoid clashes with other tournaments but the other side says this is not true- who should we believe?
If they are lying about this, can we really trust anything they say?

Any comment?

Gabber

Gabber, I addressed the other query you directed toward me.

On the second part, I prefer to keep my comments to what I have already said in these threads, and let the IPT make their reasonings themselves.

I have recognized that these clashes reduce the incentive for some of the IPT players, but that they're unlikely to switch from the IPT.

That many business professionals would advise upon blocking potential competitors.

At this stage, I still believe strongly that the IPT is the best way for the long term growth of the game, and don't see any point in picking out faults at every opportunity. Neither will I attemt to disingenously make excuses for anything I have have doubts about.

Remember there are a lot of people here with varying degrees of optimism and approval about the IPT. We ought to resist the temptation to lump all into a 100% pro or 100% anti camp and hence assume that all opinions are shared among these camps.

Hope that makes some sense.
Colin

 

[Colin Colenso]

You have way too much time! May I suggest some more practice young jedi, I'm still waiting for you 100+ straight pool run and your 8 ball ghost results!

C'mon man,
I got 5 months to go, I'm still working on my stance

btw: I'll bet you 3 nights on Julu Lu you can't do the ghost 8-ball 8-2 or better, first attempt on my table. (1 hour to warm up). 4.3" pockets....slow as a snail in gum boots

 

[TheOne]

C'mon man,
I got 5 months to go, I'm still working on my stance

btw: I'll bet you 3 nights on Julu Lu you can't do the ghost 8-ball 8-2 or better, first attempt on my table. (1 hour to warm up). 4.3" pockets....slow as a snail in gum boots

Make it 3 nights with that young thing of yours and we have a deal! What odds you giving me?

PS
I only play with my own balls