IPT- Vegas Betting Odds

Rodney's odds at 16-1 is a bit generous in my opinion.

If I were a betting man (which I'm not), I'd bet on Edwin Montal (200-1) and Jason Miller (500-1).

Also, Lining being the Filipino with the worst odds (125-1) doesn't sound like a bad bet either (though I consider Montal as being Filipino as well).
 
VanDenBerg at 200:1 seems like quite a value. Alex Lely snapped off the 2005 European Eight Ball championship against a very elite field, so 50:1 seems like a solid value, too. I'll take Thorsten hohmann at 20:1, too.
 
No way to fix it?

Nostroke said:
It is very different now in this case.

Stan James is an English/European company. Everything is computerized. If they take the bet, they well pay off.
This is a 200 man tournament-no way to fix it.
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Nostroke,

I mean you no disrespect, but I hope you dont bet your house. As in all things, if there is a will there is a way. In a bracket tourneyment, there isnt a lot of matches for anyone to win.

Trust me, better yet Nostroke, trust nobody.

LOL

Ken
 
hemicudas said:
Oh thee of little knowledge and faith. 500/1 Brian Groce? That's nuts. Not "THE" nuts but should be more like 50/1. If the boy is in stroke they all better watch out and you heard it here first.
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i mean, you're right, that's one that stands out. but the more i look at that line, the more mess ups i see. who made the line anyway? the people that think archer (for example) is that much better than some of the 100 or even 500 to 1 guys are just way out of line. there are so many good players out there that are unknown to many people cus there has never been enough money in tournaments for them to win imo.

id love to be there to lay down like $10 on a few of these guys.
 
As usual, your right

hemicudas said:
Oh thee of little knowledge and faith. 500/1 Brian Groce? That's nuts. Not "THE" nuts but should be more like 50/1. If the boy is in stroke they all better watch out and you heard it here first.
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Hemicudas-

As usual, you are exactly right. I think that would be a bargin bet.

Ken
 
It's obvious

That he did some kind of computer analysis and came up with the odds.
Scott Frost at 125-1 and James Walden at 500-1. Jeesh, Walden would give Scott the 7 all night long in 9 ball. Gary Abood at 500-1 or Jason Miller or Stevie Moore. Matlock could catch a gear at 200-1. (David told me himself that he has run 28 racks of 9 ball on a bar table without missing).

I would say that 15 of the odds are quite a bit off.
Another 20 are a little bit off.
 
well... off hand Ewa Laurance should be 2000/1 if you are comparing her to some of the other guys that are 500/1 like she is.:rolleyes: No way she plays even close to some of those guys. I don't think Karen Corr does either and she's like 350 or 400/1. Oh well.:)
 
Snapshot9 said:
That he did some kind of computer analysis and came up with the odds.
Scott Frost at 125-1 and James Walden at 500-1. Jeesh, Walden would give Scott the 7 all night long in 9 ball. Gary Abood at 500-1 or Jason Miller or Stevie Moore. Matlock could catch a gear at 200-1. (David told me himself that he has run 28 racks of 9 ball on a bar table without missing).
I would say that 15 of the odds are quite a bit off.
Another 20 are a little bit off.
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I'm not calling anyone a liar here but I would have to see this to believe it. Did he mean just throwing 9 balls out there and running them? Because if not that means he pocketed a ball on break 28 times in a row. No way!
 
Snapshot9 said:
That he did some kind of computer analysis and came up with the odds.
Scott Frost at 125-1 and James Walden at 500-1. Jeesh, Walden would give Scott the 7 all night long in 9 ball. Gary Abood at 500-1 or Jason Miller or Stevie Moore. Matlock could catch a gear at 200-1. (David told me himself that he has run 28 racks of 9 ball on a bar table without missing).

I would say that 15 of the odds are quite a bit off.
Another 20 are a little bit off.
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nice post, it must be some computer because i saw corey harper at 150 to 1. he just got in via a qualifier. one of the factors must be how recently the victories took place.
 
I think alot of it is the fact that a few of these guys have never played outside the US, so may be unknowns. Johnny is also correct that they will catch onto their mistakes pretty quickly. This is the first IPT event, so you have to expect a learning curve.
 
Perhaps you are not acquainted with David ...

Harvywallbanger said:
I'm not calling anyone a liar here but I would have to see this to believe it. Did he mean just throwing 9 balls out there and running them? Because if not that means he pocketed a ball on break 28 times in a row. No way!
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David for a number of years in the 80 and early 90's was the best bar table player in the WHOLE country. Yes, that is 28 tables, making a ball on the break every time and running the rest. David, at one time, had
3 backers in Oklahoma that would back him up to $500,000. He just won the Olathe Midwest 9 ball tour event with 102 players, beating some very good competition along the way. He is very capable of winning the tournament if he is in stroke. I think he is around 45-47 years old now.
 
yeah I've heard stories of him running an obscene amount of racks too. Believe it took place on a bar box though which makes it alot more believable.
 
At one time, I would take him vs the world.....

Snapshot9 said:
David for a number of years in the 80 and early 90's was the best bar table player in the WHOLE country. Yes, that is 28 tables, making a ball on the break every time and running the rest. David, at one time, had
3 backers in Oklahoma that would back him up to $500,000. He just won the Olathe Midwest 9 ball tour event with 102 players, beating some very good competition along the way. He is very capable of winning the tournament if he is in stroke. I think he is around 45-47 years old now.
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In the early 80's this was a no brainer. I have watched David play several tourneyments. I have seen him on bigger tables and he isnt as dominating.

On a bar table, dont under estimate Dave Matlock, (unless your betting against him with me).

Ken
 
Sheesh maybe I'm wrong for not believing it yet. 28 racks in a row just seems a little EXTREAM to me. I'm not discrediting you Snapshot but I am going to need more info to believe it without a dought. Can anyone else confirm this?
 
Harvywallbanger said:
Sheesh maybe I'm wrong for not believing it yet. 28 racks in a row just seems a little EXTREAM to me. I'm not discrediting you Snapshot but I am going to need more info to believe it without a dought. Can anyone else confirm this?
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Matlock is a great barbox player and is probably capable of 28 racks. He was running a few 9ball racks like nothing in his instructional article with The Miz and Archer. Was he using the big cueball?
 
Yep, the Ghost thinks there's some eerie, spooky, odds-making goin' on here....

So, here's some ghostly-good, big-odds bets....As some others have said - Jason Miller and Shane at 500-1, and Larry Nevel at 400-1 are probably the most out of line/best bets on the board ( Larry and Shane play as good as guys in the 100-150-1 range, and a friend of Jason's once told me that 8-ball is actually his best game - not banks! ) I also like....

....Stan Tourangeau is an 8-ball specialist/champion and a good bet at 350-1, gotta like Mark Tadd also at 350-1....and I also like Cliff at 250-1 and "The Russian" Stalev at 150-1
 
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