IPT- Vegas Betting Odds
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hippiepool
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I have been to executive many times but I'ts probably someone else your thinking of...I mainly played at airport and various "dives" in and around Indy ...vagabond said:
enzo said:
It's especially ironic when you recall all the times that everyone gets all bent out of shape about "busting some hustler's action" whenever someone asks about the identity of some roadie that stopped into their room. Funny, you busted your own action.
hippiepool
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I may be an 8th grade dropout but i do see this, every player gets paid at least 2,000 dollars ......they bet that at 500 to 1 ......for a free shot at 1,350,000 dollars ....any questions ???memikey said:Nope.Afraid not hippiepool.It doesn't depend on that at all.How much money is wagered on any given player is irrelevant to calculating the "book percentage".
The book percentage is determined by calculating the sum of the winning odds of all the runners expressed as a percentage.If the sum comes to over 100% the overall cumulative odds of all the runners is in the bookmakers favour,if it comes to less than 100% (not often !) it is in the punters favour.The higher above 100% it goes the more the bookmaker is ripping off the punters with skinny odds.
Now a typical book percentage on a high volume online betting market,let's say a soccer world cup match, might be in the average range of 103% to 109%.
The book percentage on the bookmakers odds list in the first post in this thread is approaching 200% !!!!!! The book percentage on the new odds list above is almost exactly the same.
Now can you see what I mean?
p.s. I know the house gets some but wouldn't that make a great story ?
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hippiepool said:
This brings to mind another subject- I heard that every player must stay at the Venetian for $179/nite with tax probably more like $195. Whether they have to stay 9 nites i dont know but anyway this will cut into any winnings and yes i know you can probably have up to 3 others in the room but how much does that suck?
Also from what i heard, just such an arrangement brought down the Hilton tour when the Hotels didnt get the room nites they were promised/expected and pulled the plug. I just see this as a potential fly in the ointment.
Not quite on subject... but I anticipate that all the IPT players will keep track of their expenses for tax purposes... like for travel and lodging... and maybe clothing.
At the end of the year, perhaps one or two would share what they actually made during the year.
At the end of the year, perhaps one or two would share what they actually made during the year.
hippiepool
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with four players it's 50 a nite , and who sleeps anyway ?Nostroke said:
I don't know if this has been posted in this thread yet (sorry, will read the full contents tonight), but if not, this might be interesting for stanjames bettors:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/18/technology/18gamble.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/18/technology/18gamble.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
hippiepool said:
There could be some serious, and I mean SERIOUS dumping on something like this. I wouldn't want to be on the other end of a bunch of pool players betting...lol. I like star wars so I will quote OB1, "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villinary.
hippiepool
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the only way i can see a possible "dump" scenario is on a private bet ...... unless...Harvywallbanger said:There could be some serious, and I mean SERIOUS dumping on something like this. I wouldn't want to be on the other end of a bunch of pool players betting...lol. I like star wars so I will quote OB1, "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villinary.
Harvywallbanger said:There could be some serious, and I mean SERIOUS dumping on something like this. I wouldn't want to be on the other end of a bunch of pool players betting...lol. I like star wars so I will quote OB1, "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villinary.
Stan James limits their payouts on snooker and pool to 100,000 pounds per event. I'm not sure if they do this by limiting the amount that can be bet (ie. only allowing a total of 200 pounds to be bet on a 500/1 bet) or if the payout adds up to 500,000 pounds they only pay each winner a fifth of what they were supposed to get. I think and would hope that it is the first method that they use.
Efren now 10-1 but
Reyes, Efren 10/1
Archer, Johnny 14/1
Bustamante, Fransisco 14/1
Pagulayan, Alex 16/1
Morris, Rodney 16/1
Immonen, Mika 16/1
Souquet, Ralf 16/1
Manalo, Marlon 16/1
Orcollo, Dennis 18/1
Deuel, Cory 18/1
Hohmann, Thorsten 20/1
Strickland, Earl 20/1
Jones, Jeremy 25/1
Alcano, Ronato 25/1
Ortmann, Oliver 28/1
Feijen, Niels 33/1
Daulton, Shannon 33/1
Chamat, Marcus 33/1
Lely, Alex 50/1
Parcia, Jose 50/1
Miller, Jason 50/1
Valle, Gandy 50/1
O'Sullivan, Ronnie 50/1
Sansouci, George 66/1
Owen, Gabe 66/1
Breedlove, George 66/1
Hatch, Dennis 80/1
Kiamco, Warren 80/1
Luat, Rodolfo 80/1
Williams, Charlie 80/1
Adkins, Dee 80/1
Basavich, Dan 100/1
Hann, Quinten 100/1
Alcaide, David 100/1
Majid, Imran 100/1
Putnam, Shawn 100/1
Davenport, Kim 100/1
Garrahan, Teddy 100/1
Hundal, Raj 100/1
Tot, Sandor 100/1
Schmidt, John 100/1
Takahashi, K 100/1
Robles, Tony 100/1
Foldes, Vilmos 100/1
Petroni, Fabio 100/1
Davis, Mike 100/1
Sambajon, Santos 100/1
Van Den Berg, Nick 100/1
Dominguez, Ernesto 100/1
Kucharo, Jon 125/1
Liu, Wie 125/1
Kutcher, John 125/1
Wiseman, Ron 125/1
Martinez, Rafael 125/1
Frost, Scott 125/1
Varner, Nick 125/1
Bryant, Charles 125/1
Storm, Tom 125/1
Lining, Antonio 125/1
Eberle, Max 125/1
Massey, Mike 150/1
Ginn, Anthony 150/1
Runnels, Ike 150/1
Boening, Shane Van 150/1
Watson, Gerry 150/1
Groce, Brian 150/1
Mekari, Tomoki 150/1
Paez, Ismael 150/1
Diks, Rico 150/1
Walden, James 150/1
Sigel, Mike 150/1
Stalev, Evgenji 150/1
Saez, Rob 150/1
Hill, Mick 150/1
Peach, Daryl 175/1
Mccready, Keith 175/1
Appleton, Darren 175/1
Okumura, T 175/1
Salvas, Luc 175/1
Kirkwood, Jason 200/1
Goh, Tuan Kiat 200/1
Hjorleifson, Erik 200/1
Matlock, David 200/1
Fisher, Dennis 200/1
Putnik, Ivica 200/1
Schwartz, Larry 200/1
Vidas, Mike 200/1
Eckert, Ralf 200/1
Kennedy, Thomas 200/1
Vickery, Howard 200/1
Edey, T 200/1
Potier, Paul 200/1
Wetch, Jimmy 200/1
Nevel, Larry 200/1
Hopkins, Allen 200/1
Montal, Edwin 200/1
Frank, Troy 200/1
Crosby, Tony 200/1
Boyes, Karl 200/1
Abernathy, Jeff 200/1
Martin, Ray 250/1
Hogue, Greg 250/1
Rempe, Jim 250/1
Mladenovic, Goran 250/1
Fusco, Pete 250/1
Mckenna, Rob 250/1
Chenman, Lee 250/1
Younger, Johl 250/1
Orme, Chris 250/1
Facquet, Vincent 250/1
Zimmerman, Michael 250/1
Joyner, Cliff 250/1
Juva, Markus 250/1
Morris, Carl 250/1
Schmidt, Michael 250/1
Townsend, Scotty 250/1
Macias, John 250/1
Matthews, Grady 250/1
Klasovic, Andreja 250/1
Lohtander, Marko 250/1
Harper, Corey 300/1
White, Jimmy 300/1
Wheeler, Adam 300/1
Marquez, Marco 300/1
Gonzalez, Rafael 300/1
Moore, Steven 300/1
Gulyassy, Mike 300/1
Harrison, Phil 300/1
Tademy, Mark 300/1
Franken, Aaron 300/1
Beaufils, Yannick 300/1
Holtz, Pat 300/1
Hunter, Bobby 300/1
Chohan, Tony 300/1
Acosta, Roland 300/1
Tourangeau, Stan 300/1
Barger, Denver 350/1
Cernero, Michael 350/1
West, Dallas 350/1
Incardona, William 350/1
Calderon, Jerry 350/1
Santl, Stephen 350/1
Crane, Wade 350/1
Ditoro, John 350/1
Bartram, Chris 350/1
Gay, Leil 350/1
Minici, Joe 350/1
Fisher, Allison 350/1
Corr, Karen 400/1
Abood, Gary 400/1
Wims, John 400/1
Czetli, Aaron 400/1
Reljic, David 400/1
Kelly, Ed 400/1
Weast, Jim 400/1
Koukiadakis, Andreas 400/1
Lebron, Mike 400/1
Fusco, Jimmy 400/1
Fu, Jianbo 400/1
Saleh, Brian 400/1
Jones, Sammy 400/1
Manabu, Mori 400/1
Jahnke, Bernd 400/1
Jakulj, Zlatko 400/1
Butera, Lou 500/1
Murray, Austin 500/1
Laurance, Ewa 500/1
Monday, Sam 500/1
Catledge, Wayne 500/1
Raybone, Neil 500/1
Thornfeldt, Helena 500/1
Penegar, Jonathon 500/1
Condo, Louis 500/1
Roberts, James 500/1
Broxson, David 500/1
Raney, Jim 500/1
Gunnar, Leonardo 500/1
Colenso, Colin 500/1
Brienza, Paul 500/1
Travers, Laurant 500/1
Butera, Sal 500/1
Rivera, Arturo 500/1
Salazar, Lance 500/1
Diliberto, Danny 500/1
Amine, Ouahbi 500/1
Carvajal, Alejandro 500/1
Alvarez, Frank 500/1
Dodson, Robin 500/1
Broumpton, Richard 500/1
Jones, Loree Jon 500/1
Hofstatter, Gerda 600/1
Keller, Ryan 650/1
Broadhurst, Jackie 750/1
Ellerby, Sarah 750/1
Friend, Bernie 750/1
Sakai, Miyuki 750/1
Webb, Monica 750/1
Kenniston, Mary 750/1
Carter, Linda 750/1
Efren is down from 14-1 and i think Darren Appleton is down some. Shouldnt some moves been made in the other direction.
If all the 750-1's had been moved to 1000-1, it still would not have made up for the Efren move from 14-1 to 10-1 would it?. Mathemeticians?
Reyes, Efren 10/1
Archer, Johnny 14/1
Bustamante, Fransisco 14/1
Pagulayan, Alex 16/1
Morris, Rodney 16/1
Immonen, Mika 16/1
Souquet, Ralf 16/1
Manalo, Marlon 16/1
Orcollo, Dennis 18/1
Deuel, Cory 18/1
Hohmann, Thorsten 20/1
Strickland, Earl 20/1
Jones, Jeremy 25/1
Alcano, Ronato 25/1
Ortmann, Oliver 28/1
Feijen, Niels 33/1
Daulton, Shannon 33/1
Chamat, Marcus 33/1
Lely, Alex 50/1
Parcia, Jose 50/1
Miller, Jason 50/1
Valle, Gandy 50/1
O'Sullivan, Ronnie 50/1
Sansouci, George 66/1
Owen, Gabe 66/1
Breedlove, George 66/1
Hatch, Dennis 80/1
Kiamco, Warren 80/1
Luat, Rodolfo 80/1
Williams, Charlie 80/1
Adkins, Dee 80/1
Basavich, Dan 100/1
Hann, Quinten 100/1
Alcaide, David 100/1
Majid, Imran 100/1
Putnam, Shawn 100/1
Davenport, Kim 100/1
Garrahan, Teddy 100/1
Hundal, Raj 100/1
Tot, Sandor 100/1
Schmidt, John 100/1
Takahashi, K 100/1
Robles, Tony 100/1
Foldes, Vilmos 100/1
Petroni, Fabio 100/1
Davis, Mike 100/1
Sambajon, Santos 100/1
Van Den Berg, Nick 100/1
Dominguez, Ernesto 100/1
Kucharo, Jon 125/1
Liu, Wie 125/1
Kutcher, John 125/1
Wiseman, Ron 125/1
Martinez, Rafael 125/1
Frost, Scott 125/1
Varner, Nick 125/1
Bryant, Charles 125/1
Storm, Tom 125/1
Lining, Antonio 125/1
Eberle, Max 125/1
Massey, Mike 150/1
Ginn, Anthony 150/1
Runnels, Ike 150/1
Boening, Shane Van 150/1
Watson, Gerry 150/1
Groce, Brian 150/1
Mekari, Tomoki 150/1
Paez, Ismael 150/1
Diks, Rico 150/1
Walden, James 150/1
Sigel, Mike 150/1
Stalev, Evgenji 150/1
Saez, Rob 150/1
Hill, Mick 150/1
Peach, Daryl 175/1
Mccready, Keith 175/1
Appleton, Darren 175/1
Okumura, T 175/1
Salvas, Luc 175/1
Kirkwood, Jason 200/1
Goh, Tuan Kiat 200/1
Hjorleifson, Erik 200/1
Matlock, David 200/1
Fisher, Dennis 200/1
Putnik, Ivica 200/1
Schwartz, Larry 200/1
Vidas, Mike 200/1
Eckert, Ralf 200/1
Kennedy, Thomas 200/1
Vickery, Howard 200/1
Edey, T 200/1
Potier, Paul 200/1
Wetch, Jimmy 200/1
Nevel, Larry 200/1
Hopkins, Allen 200/1
Montal, Edwin 200/1
Frank, Troy 200/1
Crosby, Tony 200/1
Boyes, Karl 200/1
Abernathy, Jeff 200/1
Martin, Ray 250/1
Hogue, Greg 250/1
Rempe, Jim 250/1
Mladenovic, Goran 250/1
Fusco, Pete 250/1
Mckenna, Rob 250/1
Chenman, Lee 250/1
Younger, Johl 250/1
Orme, Chris 250/1
Facquet, Vincent 250/1
Zimmerman, Michael 250/1
Joyner, Cliff 250/1
Juva, Markus 250/1
Morris, Carl 250/1
Schmidt, Michael 250/1
Townsend, Scotty 250/1
Macias, John 250/1
Matthews, Grady 250/1
Klasovic, Andreja 250/1
Lohtander, Marko 250/1
Harper, Corey 300/1
White, Jimmy 300/1
Wheeler, Adam 300/1
Marquez, Marco 300/1
Gonzalez, Rafael 300/1
Moore, Steven 300/1
Gulyassy, Mike 300/1
Harrison, Phil 300/1
Tademy, Mark 300/1
Franken, Aaron 300/1
Beaufils, Yannick 300/1
Holtz, Pat 300/1
Hunter, Bobby 300/1
Chohan, Tony 300/1
Acosta, Roland 300/1
Tourangeau, Stan 300/1
Barger, Denver 350/1
Cernero, Michael 350/1
West, Dallas 350/1
Incardona, William 350/1
Calderon, Jerry 350/1
Santl, Stephen 350/1
Crane, Wade 350/1
Ditoro, John 350/1
Bartram, Chris 350/1
Gay, Leil 350/1
Minici, Joe 350/1
Fisher, Allison 350/1
Corr, Karen 400/1
Abood, Gary 400/1
Wims, John 400/1
Czetli, Aaron 400/1
Reljic, David 400/1
Kelly, Ed 400/1
Weast, Jim 400/1
Koukiadakis, Andreas 400/1
Lebron, Mike 400/1
Fusco, Jimmy 400/1
Fu, Jianbo 400/1
Saleh, Brian 400/1
Jones, Sammy 400/1
Manabu, Mori 400/1
Jahnke, Bernd 400/1
Jakulj, Zlatko 400/1
Butera, Lou 500/1
Murray, Austin 500/1
Laurance, Ewa 500/1
Monday, Sam 500/1
Catledge, Wayne 500/1
Raybone, Neil 500/1
Thornfeldt, Helena 500/1
Penegar, Jonathon 500/1
Condo, Louis 500/1
Roberts, James 500/1
Broxson, David 500/1
Raney, Jim 500/1
Gunnar, Leonardo 500/1
Colenso, Colin 500/1
Brienza, Paul 500/1
Travers, Laurant 500/1
Butera, Sal 500/1
Rivera, Arturo 500/1
Salazar, Lance 500/1
Diliberto, Danny 500/1
Amine, Ouahbi 500/1
Carvajal, Alejandro 500/1
Alvarez, Frank 500/1
Dodson, Robin 500/1
Broumpton, Richard 500/1
Jones, Loree Jon 500/1
Hofstatter, Gerda 600/1
Keller, Ryan 650/1
Broadhurst, Jackie 750/1
Ellerby, Sarah 750/1
Friend, Bernie 750/1
Sakai, Miyuki 750/1
Webb, Monica 750/1
Kenniston, Mary 750/1
Carter, Linda 750/1
Efren is down from 14-1 and i think Darren Appleton is down some. Shouldnt some moves been made in the other direction.
If all the 750-1's had been moved to 1000-1, it still would not have made up for the Efren move from 14-1 to 10-1 would it?. Mathemeticians?
What does E/W on the betslip mean?
Thanks!
Thanks!
TannerPruess said:
You bet them 'each way' which means you have equal amounts on 'win' and for lack of a better word 'show'. SHow for this event is top 4 and it pays 1/4 odds. So if you bet $1.00 each way on a 400-1 shot, you spend $2.00 and if he/she finishes first you get $500 (400 +100)-if he finishes 2, 3 or 4th, you get $100.
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