I think that's a fair price. I've been askin' $150 ea for my pair, LD wood 12.75 5/16 14 pin. I think in a pool room where they will knock it down to 150, it's a win/win.
Is $169 a bad price for a CF shaft?
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I'm not buying "those cheap blanks", but I hear you.
I have already put some of these in the hands of players and on the street. Great feedback but now I need to decide if I want to even bother.
Profit is fairly marginal, but I'm not looking to make a career out of this, I'm just tired of the robbery in the industry, and hope to offer a solid value of people want this technology in hand.
Full machining center with live tooling, threading is changed with a button. Sure a small upcharge for custom options to cover time and special handling, but it's no more than a few minutes difference
Nice.
phreaticus
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There are CF shafts in the $250 range now, and new entrants appearing in the market. I know of several smaller cue makers that have been making & selling their own CF shafts for a while now. Copying same design/features, access to same/similar materials & managing 3rd party (usually low cost, overseas) CAD/machine shop services is not a new thing. I think by the time you work up a true BOM/COGS manufacturing cost model to bring a product to market with a variety of shaft threads options at a comparable quality/performance/finish/warranty/service package, you’ll not be wanting to do it for anywhere near your current target retail price, and/or you won’t be able to sustain/scale a legally compliant biz past a one time sample run that will burn up all your energy/time trying. True COGS includes mundane things like yield, packaging, import duty/taxes, marketing, inventory/return/service overheads, etc.
I hope I’m wrong & wish you luck!
I hope I’m wrong & wish you luck!
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Post $250 price with pre-order at $175.
AZ price AND a street price.
I think he'd sell a shitload on here.Hi Kevin, If your interested I have a set of four Cog joint protectors made by Alvin. Nothing fancy ebony and birds eye maple with 1-2-3 on the shaft protectors and Cog on the butt protector. Hope things are good for you on the cold and snowy northside!!
I didnt know Felt made their frames in the USA
price of these things will come down drastically in the future. but as of now
what sells is the name brand.
then price
then quality and
then how well it works.
all that will breed recognition and then you are on the road.
so basically if you can market it well and it is priced well which it is now, and it works well it will sell like hotcakes.
that will take time. you do have to advertise somewhat to speed it up before its outdated.
one way is the first 50 or so only sell to good players that will post their results here on this site. that will sink you or spark you upwards.
good luck. but good business people dont need luck.
what sells is the name brand.
then price
then quality and
then how well it works.
all that will breed recognition and then you are on the road.
so basically if you can market it well and it is priced well which it is now, and it works well it will sell like hotcakes.
that will take time. you do have to advertise somewhat to speed it up before its outdated.
one way is the first 50 or so only sell to good players that will post their results here on this site. that will sink you or spark you upwards.
good luck. but good business people dont need luck.
compare it to graphite fishing rods. when they were new all were terribly expensive .
now the great name brands are still expensive but the average ones sell for 20% of what they used to.
pool cue shafts will follow this as well as most products that are unique.
now the great name brands are still expensive but the average ones sell for 20% of what they used to.
pool cue shafts will follow this as well as most products that are unique.
Ok, fine. I ride a 2013 bike!
Lol. I think I read felt was just bought by a euro company within the last month or so...and I am sure the majority of its bikes do come from Taiwan.
Apologies for the seeming slap. I wasn't talking about the really cheap blanks that from manufacture to finished product have a far higher cull rate than I mentioned from rumors or second hand information to be more accurate. Even the best blanks available bulk are cheap compared to what the price of a finished shaft is from most people. I won't mention costs here but I looked into this roughly a year ago. I think that the carbon fiber shafts will be here from now on, I am more interested in butt designs to fit with a dark shaft instead of a light colored one. A few more further off the wall ideas too. None I am likely to pursue.
Hu
The point I am making is that these blanks are made on the same equipment, with the same composition, as "those expensive shafts"
xX-Wizard-Xx
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probably should make a few
I bought my Stainless Steel frame from Taiwan. Electric shifting is da bomb
Will your customer service be better than Meucci's?
But seriously........ it's a good price, but trying to convince the pool playing public that it is just as good as the cues sold by the major companies, could be difficult. I'm sure you would sell some, but it might be a tough row to hoe.
But seriously........ it's a good price, but trying to convince the pool playing public that it is just as good as the cues sold by the major companies, could be difficult. I'm sure you would sell some, but it might be a tough row to hoe.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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it wouldnt take much effort to be better than meucci.Will your customer service be better than Meucci's?
But seriously........ it's a good price, but trying to convince the pool playing public that it is just as good as the cues sold by the major companies, could be difficult. I'm sure you would sell some, but it might be a tough row to hoe.