is bobby pickle out

[ragbug74]

SOME states consider pool(and/or poker for that matter) a game of skill, and therefore not applicable to gambling statutes. One of the rubs is, in most states where home poker games are legal, it is illegal to take a rake/percentage, yet EVERY pool room takes table time, which is essentially the same thing. I always found this interesting.

From the way I've heard it explained, pool is considered a game of skill. You can wager on YOUR skill and it is not considered to be gambling. If you were to wager on another person's skill, it would be considered gambling. Thus, the wager between (2) contestants would be legal, but any bets on the rail would be considered gambling.

I would think table time wouldn't be considered a rake as it's usually based on the time a table was used, not the amount of money that changed hands.

 

[ironman]

I don`t personally know him, but if he such a nice guys why has he been incarcerated ?

What, you didn't get the Memo?

 

[bumpypickle]

A bunch of angels.

If I remember correctly he went down for being in a room where drugs were found. He had stopped in at another persons room and the room was raided while he was there.

I'm sure. He was just stopping by the drug dealers room that happens to be under surveillance. They're all a bunch of angels that every father on here would want their daughter to come home with.

 

[Doug]

Bobby stopped by the room of a couple of pool players who were also playing in the tournament and were friends of his. His crime in this instance is being at the wrong place at the wrong time and being the only person present who had a record and happened to be on probation. The persons who the room belonged to had no previous offenses and were given no charges. Bobby is a genuinely nice person and conducts himself in a mannerly and gentlemenly way. Not that he hasn't made mistakes but if his punishment were meted out by those who read this forum and free of similar or greater mistakes he wouldn't have a mark on his body and would not have been on probation. Good luck to you Bobby!

 

[ShootingArts]

growing trend

It is a growing trend, guilt by accusation. You see it on the TV news and commentary shows all of the time now. As soon as someone is accused of something many decide they are guilty. Same thing on this forum. If someone is accused of something some conclude it is true instantly.

There are "friends" and there are friends. Even had Bobby been inclined to burn them, two people's word against one and he was the one with a record, he was had. I don't know if he was guilty or innocent but I do know just that, I don't know. I also know that very few on this forum have lived lives so innocent that they couldn't have been jailed for some of the things they have done.

If the truth was known, few if any on here could afford to throw stones.

Hu

Bobby stopped by the room of a couple of pool players who were also playing in the tournament and were friends of his. His crime in this instance is being at the wrong place at the wrong time and being the only person present who had a record and happened to be on probation. The persons who the room belonged to had no previous offenses and were given no charges. Bobby is a genuinely nice person and conducts himself in a mannerly and gentlemenly way. Not that he hasn't made mistakes but if his punishment were meted out by those who read this forum and free of similar or greater mistakes he wouldn't have a mark on his body and would not have been on probation. Good luck to you Bobby!

 

[Fatboy]

Our prisons are clogged up with low level drug offenders who are in the "wrong place in the wrong time". Its not about right or wrong its about the DA'a, cops, etc looking for easy cases so they can keep their jobs, its just business for some people and their customers are locked up. It aint so free here at all, in the land of the free. mandotory minimum sentances are terrible and should be reviewed. We have more people in jail that ANY country in the world. I'm all for jail to keep bad people off the streets but the system here is way over the top with the harsh sentancing guidlines for low level drug offenders.

 

[Johnnyt]

It is a growing trend, guilt by accusation. You see it on the TV news and commentary shows all of the time now. As soon as someone is accused of something many decide they are guilty. Same thing on this forum. If someone is accused of something some conclude it is true instantly.

There are "friends" and there are friends. Even had Bobby been inclined to burn them, two people's word against one and he was the one with a record, he was had. I don't know if he was guilty or innocent but I do know just that, I don't know. I also know that very few on this forum have lived lives so innocent that they couldn't have been jailed for some of the things they have done.

If the truth was known, few if any on here could afford to throw stones.

Hu

I couldn't even throw a pebble. Johnnyt

 

[muttley76]

Regardless of ANYTHING, once the man is out, he has either payed ANY debt to society, or enough to be out. Show some respect. Regardless of guilt/innocence, Mr. Pickle should be treated no differently, especially in a pool room/tournament, imo. (And for the record, I have never seen him get out of line at all, and he has always conducted himself in a manner fitting of a great player/person, at least whenever I have seen him)

 

[trustyrusty]

It is a growing trend, guilt by accusation. You see it on the TV news and commentary shows all of the time now. As soon as someone is accused of something many decide they are guilty. Same thing on this forum. If someone is accused of something some conclude it is true instantly.

While I agree with this statement, wasn't the guy (have no idea who he is) being discussed here a bit beyond just accused? I mean, there had to be a trial and conviction to be jailed/imprisoned, right? Like I said, don't know the guy or situation, but guilt by accusation alone doesn't seem to fit here. ???

 

[ShootingArts]

you are right

While I agree with this statement, wasn't the guy (have no idea who he is) being discussed here a bit beyond just accused? I mean, there had to be a trial and conviction to be jailed/imprisoned, right? Like I said, don't know the guy or situation, but guilt by accusation alone doesn't seem to fit here. ???

You are right that I am actually talking about two slightly different things in the two paragraphs that do tie in here. I don't know if Bobby was convicted, nailed on a parole violation, or cut a deal when he had a stacked deck against him. In the circumstances Bobby was in most lawyers would advise him to cut a deal, guilty or not. One of those deals where it didn't matter so much if he actually had done something or not, he would still be convicted.

 

[trustyrusty]

ok, gotcha....with the way most folks on here who have met him or know him well speak of him - I'm sure he's a good guy. I don't worry about someone's past so much (much more interested in their present and future), so I'd throw back a few with him and shoot the rock a bit....

 

[kevin s]

Bobby stopped by the room of a couple of pool players who were also playing in the tournament and were friends of his. His crime in this instance is being at the wrong place at the wrong time and being the only person present who had a record and happened to be on probation. The persons who the room belonged to had no previous offenses and were given no charges. Bobby is a genuinely nice person and conducts himself in a mannerly and gentlemenly way. Not that he hasn't made mistakes but if his punishment were meted out by those who read this forum and free of similar or greater mistakes he wouldn't have a mark on his body and would not have been on probation. Good luck to you Bobby!

I will be glad to see him in action again! It's been dead around here since all this went down.

 

[Hambone]

Is the pool room he was working at in Cookeville still open? I went there a few times while he was helping run the place. There was almost always some type of action going on.

 

[eyesjr]

Bobby's Business..

If only guilt meant guilt. I pled to an itty bitty charge I WAS NOT guilty of, because I faced 7 days and 1500 dollars fine for what I was accused of. THING IS, there was a swat sting operation, and I refused their offer, I refused their services, and made it clear that I was not interested in what they offered me.

However, the 1500 dollar guilty fine, was took to 0 dollars. The only thing I had 2 pay was court cost, and THE ONLY REASON THEY LET ME PLEA DOWN WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE. But It did cost me a stack in lawyer fees....

This taught me that the legal system is not a very accurate method to determine one's GUILT, and noone on here, myself included, is able to judge.

Oh, and one other thing...If Bobby Pickle's criminal record was our business, it would be public record, and we could all go view it. GO WATCH A SOAP OPERA DRAMA QUEENS.........

While I agree with this statement, wasn't the guy (have no idea who he is) being discussed here a bit beyond just accused? I mean, there had to be a trial and conviction to be jailed/imprisoned, right? Like I said, don't know the guy or situation, but guilt by accusation alone doesn't seem to fit here. ???

 

[cuenut]

I find it interesting as it sounds like this all happened in a pool hall, not a personal residence. If in a personal residence I see more of a likelihood of guilty by association. If in a pool hall, you combine others with drugs, and if he had none, but had a nice wad of dough to gamble with, combined with the parole violation, arresting officers could in their minds easily associate the amount of cash with an intent to purchase the drugs and not understand the kind of money he may normally gamble with. Don't know Bobby at all, but I can see how this may have come down. And there is the possibility that he is actually guilty. Who knows. I wasn't there.

 

[corvette1340]

sounds like Bobby got himself into a pickle.

 

[Ktown D]

sounds like Bobby got himself into a pickle.

:rotflmao1:

 

[ne14tennis]

That's a problem....but what can you do?

If only guilt meant guilt. I pled to an itty bitty charge I WAS NOT guilty of, because I faced 7 days and 1500 dollars fine for what I was accused of. THING IS, there was a swat sting operation, and I refused their offer, I refused their services, and made it clear that I was not interested in what they offered me.

However, the 1500 dollar guilty fine, was took to 0 dollars. The only thing I had 2 pay was court cost, and THE ONLY REASON THEY LET ME PLEA DOWN WAS BECAUSE THEY HAD INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE IN THE FIRST PLACE. But It did cost me a stack in lawyer fees....

This taught me that the legal system is not a very accurate method to determine one's GUILT, and noone on here, myself included, is able to judge.

Oh, and one other thing...If Bobby Pickle's criminal record was our business, it would be public record, and we could all go view it. GO WATCH A SOAP OPERA DRAMA QUEENS.........

I don't care what you did/did not do and I don't even want to know......but!

Let's see if I have this straight, You DID NOT do what the DA accused you of. There was a fine of $1500 and 7 days in the pokey for what you did not do and you paid court costs and a bunch of attorney fees for the priviledge of pleading guilty for something that the prosecution had insufficient evidence.

Note to self: Stay out of whatever area of the US that this happened

 

[catpool9]

Bobby Pickel

just wondering if bobby has got out of jail yet hope so hope to see him at the music city classic and the dcc I really like to watch him play and think he is a real class guy

I was doing some pool hustlin back in Feb. of 1982 over in Paragould,Truman,Marktree, and Blythville,Ar. and ran into a pool shooter named Bobby Pickel, he musta been in his early twenty's as was I.

He told me he was from Helana,Ar.at that time, could this be the one in the same "Bobby Pickel" that's been discuss here?



David Harcrow

 

[Ken_4fun]

I don't care what you did/did not do and I don't even want to know......but!

Let's see if I have this straight, You DID NOT do what the DA accused you of. There was a fine of $1500 and 7 days in the pokey for what you did not do and you paid court costs and a bunch of attorney fees for the priviledge of pleading guilty for something that the prosecution had insufficient evidence.

Note to self: Stay out of whatever area of the US that this happened

Even more, most of us have things we could potentially be arrested for, if someone tried hard enough.

I had a friend who smoked a little smoke, and got arrested. It cost him several thousands of dollars, (more like his dad). The thing was they werent trying to get him, they arrested him to put pressure on him to find out about a murder case that happened in the area.

That my friend is how it is done.

Ken