Is breaking harmful to you cue?

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americanfighter

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I have a few cues I like. On is an elite that I am going to get a low deflection shaft for soon the other is an old dufferin sneaky Pete. I was wondering if I don't have a monster break but a pretty powerful one is it ok to break with these cues and can I do so without damaging them or do I need a breaking cue?

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AF
 
I aint to knowledge on cues but i break with my playing cue and its alright. But it aint nothing expensive just a regular cue with a good tip. Shane use to and sometimes still does, but i figured if you put a bend on you cue when you break it may cause some damage in the future but thats jmo.
 
breaking

Breaking hard with your playing cue ,if you play with soft or meduim tip,breaking will harden up the tip and mushroom it out. I have a crusher advailible


MMike
 
I have a pretty powerfull break, I don't know accurate BreakSpeed app really is but with it I break between 26-30+ mph and still be able to stop the cueball in the middle of the table. I play with a predator cue Z2 shaft and a kamui black medium tip and I have not had any problems, a custom cue maker from my area checks my cue all the time and it's in good shape and str8 as an arrow, the only accident I ever had was that I miscues on the break and broke my tip but didn't damage my cue and kamui replaced my tip with a new one.
 
You will probably go through tips faster because of the increased maintenance. Aside from that, be careful if you use ivory ferrules and make sure there is a pad under the tip. It might not be a good idea if you have a monster break. Also, if you like to bend the cue against the table on the follow through you might not want to use your playing cue.
 
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Most cues you will not hurt but as said before the tip will change and mushroom out more than likely.

That being said there are a few cues, mainly the joint area, that can be slightly damaged. Wood to wood can cause slight chips or nicks where they join up. It is not advisable with an ivory jointed cue either. If you are worried about it get a house cue. If you are ready to take your game to the next level then get a break cue so you can customize it for breaking only.
 
Cracked a ferrule. The cue was fine for a while and one day it had enough.
 
Is it harmful? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I broke with my old JOSS a lot, but I won't anymore.

Everything can go along fine with no problems, until there is a problem.

It can cause premature wear or compression of the tip. Parts can break (tip, ferrule, shaft, joint, forearm).

We have seen failures posted in the forum, so it can and does happen. If you can afford a break cue then I say why not? Even a relatively inexpensive cue with a good ferrule and tip can serve nicely as a break cue.

Do you need one? Well...need is a strong word...no.....

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I would like to break with my playing cue, for many reasons. Mushrooming has never been a concern. Snooker players seem to like it?

I like 11.5 mm conical taper... the ferrules don't hold up, unless you go brass. Now that I think about it. I should go brass, there is no "Ivory" controversy, still pretty, doesn't split, lasts a long time, proven over decades of play on the big track.
 
Combination break/jump cues can be had for around $80 NEW. Why test the possibilities of damage to your playing cue ? Or, you could just always use a "walabushka" house cue to break with. You dont go out to play in the snow with your slippers on do ya ? Of course not...you have special footwear for that. Same goes for breaking. Get a specific cue to break with, and you wont be dissapointed sir. :thumbup:
 
Is breaking hard on the cue? : it depends! if you drive the tip into the cloth and apply massive tension on the joint, then yes. If your tip does not touch the cloth, then no. If your tip only touches the cloth, then maybe a little.

Is breaking hard on the tip? : It ALSO depends! if you use a hard tip and break hard, then the tip will mushromm a little faster. If you use a medium tip and break hard, then it will mushromm rather fast. If you use a soft tip and break hard, then yout tip will not last very long. If you use a hard tip and break medium, then probably no damage is taking place. .....

One cannot separate out the fact of breaking from the strength of breaking and the relative hardness of the tip. Also note: breaking in 14.1 is gentle compared to 8-ball or 9-ball.
 
cell walls

There is another issue that I have wondered about. Baseball bats, particularly ash bats, go "dead" in a couple of seasons. The cell walls of the wood are damaged over time. I understand that this is due to the flexing of the wood.

I suspect that cues also suffer this damage in wood over time. Is it a good thing for a pool cue or a bad thing? I don't know but I suspect breaking with a shaft speeds up this process quite a bit. If I find the perfect shaft that suits me to a "T" I'm not going to break with it. I'm not going to let another human being touch it either, a lesson learned the hard way!

Hu
 
My opinion is that a well made cue is fine for breaking. Yeah you might hear about some damage occasionally but as a whole you are fine. These things were designed to hit the balls hard.
 
ShootingArts said:
There is another issue that I have wondered about. Baseball bats, particularly ash bats, go "dead" in a couple of seasons. The cell walls of the wood are damaged over time. I understand that this is due to the flexing of the wood. Hu
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I've wondered about this as well. I have an old shaft that's had alot of play and breaking. It plays a little more dead than it used to but people just think I'm crazy.
 
Breaking

I say get a break cue. You could throw a tip or crack a ferrule breaking with your playing cue, what if it happened during a tournament? What would you do then?

Break cues are designed to withstand the wear and tear of breaking. You don't have to spend a forturne. I have a J&J break/jump cue with 2 shafts, one phenolic and one super 'dub' tip and have less than a $100 invested in it.
 
I would not be too concerned breaking with either if your cues. Like others have said may cause a harder / firmer tip, and over time may cause slight shaft warp, or crack a ferrule down the road. But if your hooked like the rest of us, you'll buy more cues also, and when you upgrade, you may also look into a break cue.
 
Nice! Two minutes after I read this post our breaking cue split! Relieved that it was this Walmart special :rotflmao1: carbon fiber thing my husband found a few years back. Too bad we had the tip replaced about 2 or 3 months ago. At least a total expense of $60 with taxes. I'm so happy to see it go :dance:

A little off topic but, I have to say. Things I read on this forum happen to me in this fashion often. The other day someone mentioned a Lead Sled (overweight cue ball) and sure enough that night I ran in to my first one.
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3kushn said:
Hmmmmmmm.
Should I get another cue for 5 thru 9 rail shots?
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Don't laugh, I know a guy that pretty much used to do that. A break cue, an english cue, a masse cue, and so one... he couldn't do any of that stuff anyway and he loved to talk about why he needed all of them. It drove us all nucking futs!
 
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