I can not vision the shot...someone help.
Of them all, Meucci CF Pro felt like it requires the least effort, even compared to the other 11.8 tips like the Revo and Z2. Just my personal feeling though. If you get to try the Meucci shaft and came to similar conclusion, it might further reaffirm your findings.The two cf cues I used were 11.8. My Mezz is a 12.5.
So we get the same results, as far as it being more difficult with a slightly thicker shaft.
It's a cool shot to know. Not necessarily drawing it around the table, but hitting the shot and bringing the cb to the opposite side rail with all that spin to get it back up table.... comes in handy sometimes.
What you showed is a hell of a stroke.It is NOT the shot AndRun diagrammed. That's a simple inside follow shot.
The shot is a draw with inside spin. It's similar to the shot I shoot here, but with enough draw to pull the cb to the other side of that side pocket and around 3 rails to end up on the same end of the table where the ob was pocketed. In this video I show how the shot can be used with less draw to get position on the 8 ball.
What you showed is a hell of a stroke.
But I'm not sure if that would bring the cue ball to the corner pocket though.
Maybe doable with a different tone of helluva stroke?
Great post, with good response , learning alot about tips and shafts. You mentioned you had the 900 also was this the shaft on video? Just curious why you don't like cf shafts. Maybe try ignite with 12.2 mm tip? I was using ex pro for a while now ignite been switching back and forth. Wish i have stroke like yours maybe someday. Thanks for the videos , find them very helpful. FloydIt definitely takes a stroke. I was able to do it with my Mezz when I played with a hard tip. But with a soft or medium tip it's damn difficult to get the cb all the way around. Someone with a faster stroke could pull it off better. With the carbon fiber shafts I found it much easier to do.
Here's 3 attempts tonight with my Mezz....
Great post, with good response , learning alot about tips and shafts. You mentioned you had the 900 also was this the shaft on video? Just curious why you don't like cf shafts. Maybe try ignite with 12.2 mm tip? I was using ex pro for a while now ignite been switching back and forth. Wish i have stroke like yours maybe someday. Thanks for the videos , find them very helpful. Floyd
CF is BLACK. Only way to color one is to paint it and you don't want that.Thanks! That was my 700 shaft. I'll try it my 900 this evening.
I love the way cf shafts hit. I don't like the solid black. I would probably invest in one if I could find one that matched a maple color.
The stroke will come as you keep playing. Just make sure to follow all the way through the cb every time. When the knuckle of my right thumb hits my chest, I know I stroked the shot pretty well.
CF is BLACK. Only way to color one is to paint it and you don't want that.
This is mostly baloney (with some validity given to the table cloth and conditions...high humidity makes it more difficult to draw with anything)! Tip size, shape, hardness, etc have very small effects on draw. Being able to draw easily and effectively is 99% about having a quality stroke. Tip offset for maximum draw will be the same, whether shooting with an 11mm tip or a 13mm tip. Tips play differently, and your personal observations may hold little weight in actual response.This is from personal observation. Any critics will be welcome as positive feedback.
The tip diameter and cloth quality usually matter most when it comes to quality of spin. So if your observation is based off different tables, then it may be incomplete.
Tip hardness too but to a lesser degree.
Weight of butt and weight distribution of the shaft also play a minor role.
So does stroke quality.
Minor as they are, these are what I can think of that would affect spin at noticeable level.
i will try the shot.It is NOT the shot AndRun diagrammed. That's a simple inside follow shot.
The shot is a draw with inside spin. It's similar to the shot I shoot here, but with enough draw to pull the cb to the other side of that side pocket and around 3 rails to end up on the same end of the table where the ob was pocketed. In this video I show how the shot can be used with less draw to get position on the 8 ball.
This is mostly baloney (with some validity given to the table cloth and conditions...high humidity makes it more difficult to draw with anything)! Tip size, shape, hardness, etc have very small effects on draw. Being able to draw easily and effectively is 99% about having a quality stroke. Tip offset for maximum draw will be the same, whether shooting with an 11mm tip or a 13mm tip. Tips play differently, and your personal observations may hold little weight in actual response.
Scott Lee
Yes, just like hitting a little harder - it increases spin and speed proportionally.I realize tip hardness has nothing to do with the amount of spin generated. But a harder tip sends
the cb off faster than a soft tip.
I see a lot of opinions about tips and what's better or worse and realized that I have never changed the tip that my cues have come with. I have always had the opinion that if it can hold chalk and is properly rounded, then it's fine. That opinion is probably wrong and may explain why some cues I just never liked shooting with.
I've never said that myself, but I fully agree.I've heard players say that harder tips are better for rotation games, while softer tips are better for one pocket or straight pool.