Is it Wrong to 3 Foul?

Is it wrong to 3 foul an opponent?

  • No,i would 3 foul anyone in a tournament,cash,or other.

    Votes: 182 91.0%

  • Yes,its a chicken $hit way to win.

    Votes: 7 3.5%

  • Wouldn't do it to a friend.

    Votes: 11 5.5%
  • Total voters
    200
Fast Lenny

Fast Lenny

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Well i played in a tournament last night that is handicapped 9 ball.I go with a buddy who is not as good of a player,i usually spot him the 6,were in the same bracket.I watch his match go hill/hill and i have the winner of it,he wins and i have to play my buddy.I have to give him the 7,so i end up 4-2 in a race to 6 and he scratches on the break,the balls are clustered by the spot making it a tough runout but an easy place to safe,I end up getting him on 3.I then win the next game and the set is over,my friend isnt too happy and no handshake or nothing.When the tournament is over and were leaving he tells me that it was messed up and its a chicken $hit way to win and that no one in there does that and you dont get your friends on 3.I tell him thats the way i play and alot of other people do too,he just hasnt played there enough or in tournaments to know it.Now it seems that me getting the guy on 3 has ruined our friendship,i dont see myself being wrong here,i just think the guy doesnt know the game and that what i did is a part of it.So i would like your opinions on this and also if anyone has had experiences like this where people have hard feelings over a game.
 
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Does your friend think breaking and running a rack is chickenshit? You can win a game that way without your opponent having ANY shot at all.

Winning a game is winning a game, and three-fouling is a way to win the game. If your friend doesn't like that, perhaps he should learn to throw darts instead of wasting his time on pool.

-djb
 
Sheeeeat! I 3-foul for a win whenever I think it is the best option, but I seek to break my opponent's spirit...;)
 
out dated rule

I think it's an outdated rule. But as long as it's a rule I'm willing to use it to win.

The 3 foul rule is the primary reason I learned different kicking systems so it's been a positive influence on me.
 
Sigh. Everybody hates to lose. Some accept it better than others. I agree with what you did, you played to win and that's what you should have done. Your buddy hasn't played enough to know that it's not unethical to do what you did, and a bunch of people who don't play anything remotely like serious pool still don't understand this. If you've read any of my recent posts concerning 9 ball, you'll know I hate the current rules and this is one of the reasons why. But, if I'm going to play in tournaments I have to play by the current rules, and if I can win a game with the three foul rule, I'll do it.
 
I would do it in a tournament. I wouldn't do it to a friend for the most part, but I might if we are just messing around.

Would I do it to a friend in a tournament? Well, probably, because most of my pool friends know that it's part of the game.
 
Anyone that gets mad at getting three fouled does not know how to play the game. It is a written rule and strategy play to both win the game and get them off of their game. If the opportunity is there, especially after their scratch on the break, I will look for it it there are other clusters I do not want to deal with later.
 
Fast Lenny said:
So i would like your opinions on this and also if anyone has had experiences like this where people have hard feelings over a game.
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Gettin' somebody on 3 fouls isn't as easy as it looks. Your buddy probably isn't capable of doing it, so it's not part of his game. As to hard feelings over a game, there's a guy who plays around here who I used to shoot the shit with but I have no use for anymore. We were playing in a tournament a couple months ago when all of a sudden around game 6 of our match he starts complaining that I'm not racking right. He kept insisting that the one ball had to be dead center on the spot. This hadn't been an issue in all the other matches I had played that day, nor in the first 5 games of this match whether he was racking or I was racking. I called for the TD to make a call but he had stepped out of the building. So, rather than put up with anymore of the nit's crap, I just quit. I haven't talked to the guy since and I don't intend to. Why should I? He's an idiot.
 
Tell your friend to kick better. If you're playing someone GOOD, winning by 3-fouling is harder than running out - I think. Therefore, it's a well deserved win. If your friend wouldn't have a problem making a 1-9 combo on you, what's the difference - it's part of the game.
 
For the cash, I try to employ the highest percentage play.

Among friends while playing heehaw, I'll do it and then I'll laugh at them.
 
Don't make a big deal out of it. besides, your friend is just starting out. he'll eventually learn that over time. it's just normal to be pissed whenever you lose a game. the next time you play each other out, I believe he would had figured out some situations on how to kick balls better or foul some other balls (positional fouls) on purpose that would allow him to have an easier kick, avoid 3 fouling and return the favor by giving you some difficult table layouts of your own to solve with. he might also learn how to use the 3 foul rule in his advantage. Just don't get mad when he decides to give you a dose of your own medicine. :D
 
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A safety is an intelligent strategy.
3 of them in a row is simply good shooting.
He needs to learn the game and how to play them.
In a tournament you check you friendship at the door for the competition.
 
Offense and defense

Most people have hard feeling over losing in general, but most hate it more when it is done this way. Players fail to realize that offense and defense are a part of every sport or game. Most players(amatuers) view 9ball as strictly an offense related runout type of game. The more this player and most players play in tournaments or money sets the more they will come to the realize the fact that defense is an important part of winning in this generation of 9ball.

When I first started to play and gamble at 9ball I was in my 20's and was playing an old guy in his 60's all the time. He would torment the hell out of me by 3 fouling me on more games than by running out. He knew how to play safe and used it, and the frustration factor against me to pound me all the time. I literally lost hundreds of dollars to him. Maybe you could talk to your friend and explain the importance of playing defense when needed and offense when the runout is there. It will help his game and he will eventually be thankful for the info you provide to him.
 
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I think it's an outdated rule. But as long as it's a rule I'm willing to use it to win. ...
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Well, OK, but then what do you propose instead? Stalemate when it is not possible to hit the ball on?
 
I LOVE TO 3 FOUL PEOPLE!

If they give me crap about it; I will make it a point to do it even when there is an out.

If you really want to piss him off hook him up when there are only 2 or 3 balls left and he knows you can get out.
 
Like someone else said, you leave friendship at the door. Once on the table it's all business. I would venture to guess that your friend was mad as soon as he knew that he had to play you. Knowing that you were the favorite. He figured his run was over. And when he did lose, he looked for a cheap excuse instead of looking at reality- he was supposed to lose to you. Odds are that he will come around. If not, he never really was a friend, just an acquaintence.
 
Actually, among friends, my favorite is when they do a kick-masse-jump 153 rails around the table and brush the 1-ball only to not contact a rail. I will stand up and yell "FFFFFFFFFFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and immediately take BIH.


I will still laugh at them.
 
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