Is Schmidt's and charlie 626 Legit

iusedtoberich

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Might be my last post to this thread because things are percolating and a new thread needs to be started.

My personal opinion is that no one that hasn’t been read in on this has any clue what’s coming down the pike.

It’s going to be big and a lot of people are going to be blown away.

Lou Figueroa
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Danny Harriman

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How many die hard fans of 14.1 Pool are out there? I can only imagine that only die hard fans of the game would care to watch a 626 ball run of 14.1. I think it is a great game, but it is so boring to watch. I would much rather watch a good 1 Pocket match, which can also get pretty boring, then sit through a very long 14.1 high run. I think that watching 8 ball is the most interesting game to watch, and think that it would be much more interesting to watch a player break and run 30 racks of 8 ball.

So, for this reason, I personally do not understand why the 626 ball run is still not available to the public after 2 years. If I ran 626, breaking the world record, then I would want to put it out there for anyone who would be interested to see it. Maybe put it online, with a password required, and charge a $10 viewing fee, with unlimited views for life. Make it so that only 1 IP address can use that password, if something like that is possible, to avoid password sharing with others. He probably could have made some decent money off of the video over the last 2 years, sharing the video, for a small fee.

By the way, I have not read through these 154 pages, or whatever, but I assume that it is mostly just the regulars replying, with back and forth arguments.

When was the last time that 14.1 was really popular? The 60's? I assume that the popularity really died at around the same time that 9 ball started getting really popular in the early 80's(?), and even in the 60's, 14.1 was probably not nearly as popular as it was back in Ralph Greenleaf's prime.
It is good that you can at least - question why (along with many others) they choose to not release the unedited footage for sale to 'Open Public', there was just a constant theme of who really cares if it's true or not - 65+year old standing record from yer fellow forms of dimly lit posters - that I did not care for? I think that mentality is just another attempt at sweeping the dirt under the rug, it does not matter if it's regulars or unleaded who have posted - this is still the longest running thread (directly related to Pocket Billiards) - in az's history. Straight Pool is played World wide, I was in Asia and the main Pool Room they were playing - guess what - 14.1. So while the here in the States Organized Pocket Billiards has been demoted to mostly bar leagues - in other Country's they have not forgotten about 14.1. It sounds like you suffer a bit from short attention span deficit - order, so again take a look at the bigger land - all over Europe and Asia (organized 14.1 leagues). I don't know how many true 14.1 students out there - or as u bangers say 'die hard fans' - lol - but kinda bitter. 1 thing's for sure yer not ONE of them - but there are more than u know. I uh purciate yer candor. But ur an or' rather than can'. People with short attention span - are usually interested in 'get rich quick schemes' i.e. claiming to have run 626 - only to hide the unedited evidence from the people. I really think u and book collector - should go to their next 626 theater show.
 
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Danny Harriman

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Unless he’s offering a million for running 527, or 627, or 769 balls, I doubt anyone will show up. It’s too hard to do. Schmidt proved that.
I say yer incorrect, while I may not care for whirld pro's attitiude I am familiar with sum' of the prize $ logistics. Kinda some irony for j.s. - in that it's his own possible fake news scandal - that has actually inspired a Legit - 14.1 challenge - mhmm! Top talent will surface under chamberlain's 14.1 challenge, their will be unedited footage for sale - to both 'Open Public' and semi public' - when a top shelf player truly surpasses 5 centuries +. Any of yer doubts - are probly the future of 14.1 - maybe that is why yer a usedto bee - eh sunshine. Plus the only reason made it look difficult - is he did not show any shred of real evidence - that he has in fact run 626. Possible attempted theft of Mosconi's true 526 is all I saw from the bca/j.s. teem'. But yea I guess there is sum return for the 'bca/csi/j.s./ pred cue cabal'.
 
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I say yer incorrect, while I may not care for whirld pro's attitiude I am familiar with sum' of the prize $ logistics. Kinda some irony for j.s. - in that it's his own possible fake news scandal - that has actually inspired a Legit - 14.1 challenge - mhmm! Top talent will surface under chamberlain's 14.1 challenge, their will be unedited footage for sale - to both 'Open Public' and semi public' - when a top shelf player truly surpasses 5 centuries +. Any of yer doubts - are probly the future of 14.1 - maybe that is why yer a usedto bee - eh sunshine. :)
Are the corners going to be 5 1/2"? If so, do you consider that "Legit" for record attempts?
 

gerryf

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Is anyone sure this is the same person posting?? Could there be two Danny Harriman's?

Danny Harriman, March 10 2021

I say yer incorrect, while I may not care for whirld pro's attitiude I am familiar with sum' of the prize $ logistics. Kinda some irony for j.s. - in that it's his own possible fake news scandal - that has actually inspired a Legit - 14.1 challenge - mhmm! Top talent will surface under chamberlain's 14.1 challenge, their will be unedited footage for sale - to both 'Open Public' and semi public' - when a top shelf player truly surpasses 5 centuries +. Any of yer doubts - are probly the future of 14.1 - maybe that is why yer a usedto bee - eh sunshine. Plus the only reason made it look difficult - is he did not show any shred of real evidence - that he has in fact run 626. Possible attempted theft of Mosconi's true 526 is all I saw from the bca/j.s. teem'. But yea I guess there is sum return for the 'bca/csi/j.s./ pred cue cabal'.

Danny Harriman, Mar 14 2007
Hello fellow 14.1 enthusiasts, I just thought I would share with someone that last night I ran a 156. A few weeks ago I ran a 200 and caught it on tape however it was ugly as I had many difficult shots. Last night's run was smooth, the equip. I'm playing on is an early 1900's Brunswick ball return table, it has a few squirly' spots in the slate due to the age factor but besides that the table is in fine shape. The cushions are K66 and the cloth is not brand new, I might add also that this table is in a basement which makes it more difficult to disperse the rack due to humidity. Someone on this forum is allway's referring to that perfect 14.1 run (Steve Lipsky) well I realize that it is nothing like John Shmidt's 246, I have ran over 200 many times but never before did it look as easy as this particular run. I have watched John's recording of his run and he makes it look easy, what a great champion he is. I thought maybe I will make a commentary of my little 156 if anyone would be interested pM me back and I might get a hacker to show me how to display it here on the computer.
Your's truly, Danny Harriman (Bob Jewett's 14.1 challenge Champ)
 

lfigueroa

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Unless he’s offering a million for running 527, or 627, or 769 balls, I doubt anyone will show up. It’s too hard to do. Schmidt proved that.

I believe you are not correct.

First off, I would characterize the prize monies involved as “substantial” and more than sufficient to motivate the best players out there.

Second, keep in mind that Mosconi and Cranfield frequently put up huge numbers and while 600+ is quite a goal, it’s doable. And while it may have taken JS months and months, I think it is very possible —given all that is coming together in terms of money, equipment, conditions, and players — his record will fall in relatively short order.

That’s just my opinion... I guess we’ll all find out.

Lou Figueroa
 

iusedtoberich

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I believe you are not correct.

First off, I would characterize the prize monies involved as “substantial” and more than sufficient to motivate the best players out there.

Second, keep in mind that Mosconi and Cranfield frequently put up huge numbers and while 600+ is quite a goal, it’s doable. And while it may have taken JS months and months, I think it is very possible —given all that is coming together in terms of money, equipment, conditions, and players — his record will fall in relatively short order.

That’s just my opinion... I guess we’ll all find out.

Lou Figueroa

So someone is going to put up "substantial" prize money, and have a venue for 10 or so pros who can realistically do this, and have multiple cameras on each table, and do this long enough (4 weeks?) for one of the 10 pros to break "one of the records". I'd say that's a 500,000USD expenditure. Someone is going to put up that cash just to shut up JS? I don't buy it.
 

ChrisinNC

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Is anyone sure this is the same person posting?? Could there be two Danny Harriman's?

Danny Harriman, March 10 2021

I say yer incorrect, while I may not care for whirld pro's attitiude I am familiar with sum' of the prize $ logistics. Kinda some irony for j.s. - in that it's his own possible fake news scandal - that has actually inspired a Legit - 14.1 challenge - mhmm! Top talent will surface under chamberlain's 14.1 challenge, their will be unedited footage for sale - to both 'Open Public' and semi public' - when a top shelf player truly surpasses 5 centuries +. Any of yer doubts - are probly the future of 14.1 - maybe that is why yer a usedto bee - eh sunshine. Plus the only reason made it look difficult - is he did not show any shred of real evidence - that he has in fact run 626. Possible attempted theft of Mosconi's true 526 is all I saw from the bca/j.s. teem'. But yea I guess there is sum return for the 'bca/csi/j.s./ pred cue cabal'.

Danny Harriman, Mar 14 2007
Hello fellow 14.1 enthusiasts, I just thought I would share with someone that last night I ran a 156. A few weeks ago I ran a 200 and caught it on tape however it was ugly as I had many difficult shots. Last night's run was smooth, the equip. I'm playing on is an early 1900's Brunswick ball return table, it has a few squirly' spots in the slate due to the age factor but besides that the table is in fine shape. The cushions are K66 and the cloth is not brand new, I might add also that this table is in a basement which makes it more difficult to disperse the rack due to humidity. Someone on this forum is allway's referring to that perfect 14.1 run (Steve Lipsky) well I realize that it is nothing like John Shmidt's 246, I have ran over 200 many times but never before did it look as easy as this particular run. I have watched John's recording of his run and he makes it look easy, what a great champion he is. I thought maybe I will make a commentary of my little 156 if anyone would be interested pM me back and I might get a hacker to show me how to display it here on the computer.
Your's truly, Danny Harriman (Bob Jewett's 14.1 challenge Champ)
A lot can happen / change in 14 years!
 

iusedtoberich

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So someone is going to put up "substantial" prize money, and have a venue for 10 or so pros who can realistically do this, and have multiple cameras on each table, and do this long enough (4 weeks?) for one of the 10 pros to break "one of the records". I'd say that's a 500,000USD expenditure. Someone is going to put up that cash just to shut up JS? I don't buy it.

And where is the return? The only way someone would do this is if they were a multi-millionaire and loved straight pool, and did it as a charity. It would never make any money.
 

iusedtoberich

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Is anyone sure this is the same person posting?? Could there be two Danny Harriman's?

Danny Harriman, March 10 2021

I say yer incorrect, while I may not care for whirld pro's attitiude I am familiar with sum' of the prize $ logistics. Kinda some irony for j.s. - in that it's his own possible fake news scandal - that has actually inspired a Legit - 14.1 challenge - mhmm! Top talent will surface under chamberlain's 14.1 challenge, their will be unedited footage for sale - to both 'Open Public' and semi public' - when a top shelf player truly surpasses 5 centuries +. Any of yer doubts - are probly the future of 14.1 - maybe that is why yer a usedto bee - eh sunshine. Plus the only reason made it look difficult - is he did not show any shred of real evidence - that he has in fact run 626. Possible attempted theft of Mosconi's true 526 is all I saw from the bca/j.s. teem'. But yea I guess there is sum return for the 'bca/csi/j.s./ pred cue cabal'.

Danny Harriman, Mar 14 2007
Hello fellow 14.1 enthusiasts, I just thought I would share with someone that last night I ran a 156. A few weeks ago I ran a 200 and caught it on tape however it was ugly as I had many difficult shots. Last night's run was smooth, the equip. I'm playing on is an early 1900's Brunswick ball return table, it has a few squirly' spots in the slate due to the age factor but besides that the table is in fine shape. The cushions are K66 and the cloth is not brand new, I might add also that this table is in a basement which makes it more difficult to disperse the rack due to humidity. Someone on this forum is allway's referring to that perfect 14.1 run (Steve Lipsky) well I realize that it is nothing like John Shmidt's 246, I have ran over 200 many times but never before did it look as easy as this particular run. I have watched John's recording of his run and he makes it look easy, what a great champion he is. I thought maybe I will make a commentary of my little 156 if anyone would be interested pM me back and I might get a hacker to show me how to display it here on the computer.
Your's truly, Danny Harriman (Bob Jewett's 14.1 challenge Champ)

Holly molly! What happened to you?
 

wrldpro

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And where is the return? The only way someone would do this is if they were a multi-millionaire and loved straight pool, and did it as a charity. It would never make any money.
Bingo. You are correct on all of this. Now if you and all others could just continue to post like this instead of posting anything negative then more people would love to see a very successful event. Of course some people just can't be positive and have to try to find negative or create doubt or drama when a good thing is happening. These are the same people that watch a free live stream just to post negative comments in the chat room. Those people will be remembered and be barred not only from making comments but also from even watching the stream. Continue on please.
 

iusedtoberich

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Bingo. You are correct on all of this. Now if you and all others could just continue to post like this instead of posting anything negative then more people would love to see a very successful event. Of course some people just can't be positive and have to try to find negative or create doubt or drama when a good thing is happening. These are the same people that watch a free live stream just to post negative comments in the chat room. Those people will be remembered and be barred not only from making comments but also from even watching the stream. Continue on please.
Can I hold a hundred? :):):)
 
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