Is Schmidt's and charlie 626 Legit
- Thread starter Dan Harriman
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Right, Mosconi did not love the game, it was just a means to an end.
That led to his fierce desire to win.
Lou Figueroa
I’m not so sure Brunswick tried to leverage any marketing with the run — what was important back then were world titles.
As to an Army buddy or military review, clearly you have me confused with someone else because I’ve never said anything like that.
Lou Figueroa
His passion was to win and to put food on the table.
He came to the game at a very young age and turned out to be a wunderkin. Punching out his boss at a factory during tough financial times put him in a bind and he took up playing seriously. R.A. Dryer makes the case in one of his books that the storyline about Mosconi not gambling was a canard and that in fact he frequently gambled. Later on Brunswick had him disavow all that to present a squeaky clean image.
Lou Figueroa
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Right, in that same Book ‘Hustler and the Champ“ Dryer talks about how Brunswick had admonished Mosconi at one point while he was under their employ for not acting more positively toward the game.
As far as his will to win, this is without question, I’ve seen him play a couple of times and whether he was playing Carras or his mother his will to win was Paramount!
As far as his will to win, this is without question, I’ve seen him play a couple of times and whether he was playing Carras or his mother his will to win was Paramount!
I don't wear a suit but yer probly right about about 'no one changing my mind on this particular topic' - unless they have proof (un edited footage of the run in it's entirety). It is my opinion that un edited footage of this elusive 626 schmidt show - does not exist. As far as me being infallible on any issue - yer incorrect there. It's purty clear I am not wrong on this one though. In fact I would lay heavy odds that the 626 ='s nothing more than a publicity stunt/lie - aimed at the people.
Actually it would seem that u are trying to single myself and Radar out (isolation tactics eh)? having the right to an opinion is not the same as a direct insult. I guess u failed to recognize that Lou Figuero, Fatboy, and many, many more agree with Radar and myself. We are just the two u tried to single out. Yer a joke 9 'n' owt.Try to quote me correctly next time. You (and Danny) started with the insults.
He didn't run 626!!!So adult of you two.
U may reserve yer right - for the rest of yer life - no sign of any that they even have an unedited tape for convincing evidence. It is very tough for them to produce footage they do not have.
Isn't that what every thread on the internet is ,or quickly ends up being?
So yer not interested in their phony theater production coming to yer town either - well Eureka for u, but you will take a lesson - that is all the theater production is. yea once u break it down and the dust settles - there is very little monetary gain from the phony theater show - way less than 50% will even believe it is real footage. My suggestion is to have a better angle on yer b.s. - maybe then the rack will disperse with more honest opportunities. Or as YES would say, Take a Straighter - Stronger Course.
Are u still looking forward to the DVD of this phony 626 story? If so - sit on yer hands and wait a another two years - maybe then ur anticipation will have subsided.
Sounds like u would rather seethe thread - go away. Oh boy - the living Horse - remains - go right to the source and ask the Horse - it'll give you the answer that you endorse - he's always on a steady course - of truth.
Kinda interesting to me that when td originally posted this - he had bca/bcapl promotions on his avatar, I have to wonder why he or she took it down. Any reason u are no longer advertising the bca/bcapl on yer avatar td873? Care to expound?
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Yer truly pitiful trob, now the table Mosconi ran the 526 on was a trash home table? I agree that ur truly inept and pitiful. Willie's bs record eh - wow what a loser. Mosconi's 526 is recognized in the Smithsonian Institute, see if the 626 claim - without unedited footage - is recognized from the Smithsonian. I seriously doubt that the Smithsonian will recognize their theater show as true evidence.
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Retaining the affidavit in their basement because someone mailed it to them means what?...is it now the BCA/Smithsonian/Harriman record. Weak even by your standards son.
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I am looking forward to it. If you had a run greater than 526 I would also want to buy that. When I say DVD I mean of course unedited.
An unedited DVD of the run would rationally, simply not be a commercially viable product, because it would unproductively include totally unnecessary, viewer-dissuasive footage of downtime for bio-breaks and other away-from-the-table protracted minutes. It would be utterly foolish from a marketing POV to quantity-produce that form of an ultra-high -- possibly historic -- Straight Pool run DVD.
John or his team logically could of course, produce by request -- and at a higher price point -- any amounts of an unedited DVDs of the run, but there'd be far more controversy-ridden downsides than productive upsides for doing so, IMO.
I'd imagine that John and his team have -- or should have -- already commonsensically considered all of these marketing-relevant factors.
Arnaldo
The Smithsonian doesn’t just accept things because someone sends it to them.
Broadly speaking they accept them because they consider them to be of historical value. Mosconi was a revered figure in sport that, at one time, was widely appreciated by the American public. So along with the affidavit is the piece of paper Mosconi used to carry around with him in his wallet that listed the shots for his trick shot exhibition.
Lou Figueroa
Willie Mosconi was driving himself all over the country between exhibitions. He was also sometimes doing two a day. Aside from the trick shots and glad handing I think he always ran at least a hundred balls. The grind of doing that for years on end I think is what got Willie sour. Even after his stroke and retirement he still worked hard to be ready to play even the TV stuff. I think he always loved the game, not so much the job!
Hu
Hu
OK, but the idea raised by someone that it was significant that JS didn’t have something in the Smithsonian is a stretch.
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