Is Scott Frost over-rated?

JB Cases said:
You're joking right?



Throw six top one pocket players together and you bet AGAINST one of them and consider yourself smart?



The odds are in your favor that you will win by following a solid consistent pattern of betting AGAINST Scott Frost in tournaments. The same applies to just about any player in any series of tournaments with equally skilled competitors for the most part.



If you really want to gamble then bet AGAINST Scott in the match with Richie.



In the last 100 pro events there have probably been 85 different winners. So it's not proof that you're smart to pick one player and consistently bet against them to win. Even if they manage to win a couple you're still going to be up overall betting the field against them.



Also, this is as good a time as any, how about you and me match up at DCC? I would like to play you some cheap one pocket, say a hundred a game with an 11 game minimum so that someone will come out ahead. You up for that?
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I'm not gonna go down the argument spiral with you re my one pocket betting. I put my money where my mouth is. If you see it differently we can agree to disagree.

Regarding you and I plsying, yes, I'd be up for that. But, I'm not just going to donate 1100 to you. If you want to gamble you have to give me a reasonable spot. For reference, we both know your high run is 98 abd mine is 30. So don't try with lets start even because we never played.

Now, if you want to play a social game for free or cheap I'll plsy you all night. Think that would be fine. But I'm not gonna play someone out of my planet in speed 11 games of even onepocket for 100 each where I will most likely lose every single game.
 
JB, Efren and Frost just started at race to 10 a couple min ago. I don't know the bet, Bigturck just made a post. You want to bet 500? You know who I want... Efren. Let me know asap cause I'm probably going to sleep. Obviously, we will have to have Truck let us know who won since it might be hard to keep track. Its on the stream now.
 
iusedtoberich said:
JB, Efren and Frost just started at race to 10 a couple min ago. I don't know the bet, Bigturck just made a post. You want to bet 500? You know who I want... Efren. Let me know asap cause I'm probably going to sleep. Obviously, we will have to have Truck let us know who won since it might be hard to keep track. Its on the stream now.
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race to ten ouch only thing goes against efren is his stamina
but ill take efren all day
 
Where oh where is Barton?

I even sent him a PM saying match is on and I want to bet on Efren. Uh oh, whats going on Barton? Status shows online??? Its a joke I bet against Frost in a tournament setting, but now they are playing heads up and Barton is not to be found???????
 
JB cases seems very biased as seen in other posts, frost earl his main chums it seems probably shane the other they can do no wrong
 
Scott Frost vs Efren Reyes on PoolActionTV NOW!! race to 10. No commentary and this is your view. Just started. You will be able to get in with any Event Pass from the One Pocket or Finals Pass. I will be putting the purchase button back up for the finals pass in case you didn't already have one and would like to join in. LIVE NOW!
 

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iusedtoberich said:
Where oh where is Barton?

I even sent him a PM saying match is on and I want to bet on Efren. Uh oh, whats going on Barton? Status shows online??? Its a joke I bet against Frost in a tournament setting, but now they are playing heads up and Barton is not to be found???????
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Look, I don't hang out on AZB every second. And Inspector Gadget, my status shows "online" because I don't turn my computers off and log out of AZB every time I step away.

Let's play it your way, since YOU think he IS overrated, I will take Scott for $5000 with a 3 game spot.

You see UNLIKE you I don't think that there is very much difference between them although they have different styles. I think of it as a coin flip with a very slight edge to Efren in the knowledge department because of Efren's age and carom experience.

Bet?
 
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actionplayer said:
JB cases seems very biased as seen in other posts, frost earl his main chums it seems probably shane the other they can do no wrong
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Not biased, just making conversation. Is it NOT a bias/judgement to knock just as much as it is to support?
 
iusedtoberich said:
I'm not gonna go down the argument spiral with you re my one pocket betting. I put my money where my mouth is. If you see it differently we can agree to disagree.

Regarding you and I plsying, yes, I'd be up for that. But, I'm not just going to donate 1100 to you. If you want to gamble you have to give me a reasonable spot. For reference, we both know your high run is 98 abd mine is 30. So don't try with lets start even because we never played.

Now, if you want to play a social game for free or cheap I'll plsy you all night. Think that would be fine. But I'm not gonna play someone out of my planet in speed 11 games of even onepocket for 100 each where I will most likely lose every single game.
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My 98 was in 1991. So you want a spot based on a result from 23 years ago?

Ok, well, let's see what sort of heart you possess.....in your opinion as an expert handicapper what sort of weight do you think you need to make it gambling?
 
and although it doesn't need to be said, Frost/Reyes - no bet. Let's stick to you and me matching up.
 
Not really my biz but I give 9/7 to papa and he don't like it and you would probably need to spot me that.
 
Fast Lenny said:
Not really my biz but I give 9/7 to papa and he don't like it and you would probably need to spot me that.
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Who is papa? And are you suggesting that I would need to spot you? You live in one pocket wonderland and I play once a month even when I am in OKC which is also a good one pocket spot.

But you live in a place where you have a one pocket tournament every week and you have constant matching up with top players.

I think if anything I need weight from you. Come to DCC though and I won't be a nit and will play you even the same way, we put up 11 games and play them out and adjust from there.
 
JB Cases said:
Who is papa? And are you suggesting that I would need to spot you? You live in one pocket wonderland and I play once a month even when I am in OKC which is also a good one pocket spot.

But you live in a place where you have a one pocket tournament every week and you have constant matching up with top players.

I think if anything I need weight from you. Come to DCC though and I won't be a nit and will play you even the same way, we put up 11 games and play them out and adjust from there.
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I have not even been playing for ten years so you have much more experience and have gambled for more money playing. Spot me what Lou offered and we can make a reasonable game. I practice with Scott once in a blue moon and its not much better in Phoenix then OKC. iusedtoberich is papa and Scott bet on me vs him at dcc in our one pocket match because he knows papa bets against him, I drilled Nick and got Scott the dough. Just saying he needs a spot obviously and you offered me a ball or two also on one pocket.org as has Lou.
 
Fast Lenny said:
I have not even been playing for ten years so you have much more experience and have gambled for more money playing. Spot me what Lou offered and we can make a reasonable game. I practice with Scott once in a blue moon and its not much better in Phoenix then OKC. iusedtoberich is papa and Scott bet on me vs him at dcc in our one pocket match because he knows papa bets against him, I drilled Nick and got Scott the dough. Just saying he needs a spot obviously and you offered me a ball or two also on one pocket.org as has Lou.
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You want to go ahead and post a link to where I offered you weight? And I didn't say Nick doesn't need weight, I said I don't know what if anything he needs.

And I don't know anything about Lou and you and it doesn't matter. If you don't want to play that's perfectly fine with me but I am not going to make the mistake of spotting the guy who made two one pocket videos right out of the gate.

Now, if you want to make some real money....

Download the nine hours of me playing and edit it into a one hour highlight reel of 101 Things Not To Do in One Pocket and we can get RICH!

And.....nice knock by the way....you should know better but I guess you owed me one.
 
JB Cases said:
You want to go ahead and post a link to where I offered you weight? And I didn't say Nick doesn't need weight, I said I don't know what if anything he needs.

And I don't know anything about Lou and you and it doesn't matter. If you don't want to play that's perfectly fine with me but I am not going to make the mistake of spotting the guy who made two one pocket videos right out of the gate.

Now, if you want to make some real money....

Download the nine hours of me playing and edit it into a one hour highlight reel of 101 Things Not To Do in One Pocket and we can get RICH!

And.....nice knock by the way....you should know better but I guess you owed me one.
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There is no knocking as Nick knows where he stands with you as he already stated. You did offer weight to me and I am not going to waste my time to even look it up. I would rather play Lou getting some weight like two gentleman.
 
Fast Lenny said:
There is no knocking as Nick knows where he stands with you as he already stated. You did offer weight to me and I am not going to waste my time to even look it up. I would rather play Lou getting some weight like two gentleman.
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Please......you "bothered" to look plenty of stuff up in the past when you were needling me.

Now you can't be bothered to look up where I allegedly offered you weight? Nick doesn't know where he stands because we have never played. Anyway, if SJD were here he'd probably have words for you sticking your beak into it.

We all know that what you did is called knocking in the pool room. hey no biggie though I am sure Nick and I will figure out a game or we won't play simple as that.

As for Lou....I could care less what you claim he offered you. What someone else offers you is of zero consequence to me. If you're too scared to play even then I suggest you practice more.

If you need some videos I know someone who sells them.
 
JB Cases said:
Please......you "bothered" to look plenty of stuff up in the past when you were needling me.

Now you can't be bothered to look up where I allegedly offered you weight? Nick doesn't know where he stands because we have never played. Anyway, if SJD were here he'd probably have words for you sticking your beak into it.

We all know that what you did is called knocking in the pool room. hey no biggie though I am sure Nick and I will figure out a game or we won't play simple as that.

As for Lou....I could care less what you claim he offered you. What someone else offers you is of zero consequence to me. If you're too scared to play even then I suggest you practice more.

If you need some videos I know someone who sells them.
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John it really isn't worth my time. Like I said I am just backing up Nicks statement plain and simple, he can't play you even and he knows this from watching you play Lou and even you playing bad is better then his best. Not sure who in their right mind would get involved with you in anything. Too much of a headache. As for the weight its not alleged, you offered a ball.
 
Fast Lenny said:
John it really isn't worth my time. Like I said I am just backing up Nicks statement plain and simple, he can't play you even and he knows this from watching you play Lou and even you playing bad is better then his best. Not sure who in their right mind would get involved with you in anything. Too much of a headache. As for the weight its not alleged, you offered a ball.
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Well the offer is withdrawn. I think I offered that a long time ago under different circumstances. And you can justify it all you want to but sticking your nose in someone else's offer to match up is called knocking in every pool room on the planet.

So if you feel you can't play me even then I guess you should work on your game more. I will be around when you feel ready.

You're probably stealing playing me even but I, unlike some, am not a nit and will try you some even.
 
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